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[ToxicS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_g0tyaIeE&feature=youtu.be

Crazy story

Article: http://www.webpronew...story-2-2012-05

[Neoquest]

I saw this around the time that Toy Story 3 came out. Really interesting, but if the backups just failed for the last month they'd only be set back a month.

[ToxicS]

I saw this around the time that Toy Story 3 came out. Really interesting, but if the backups just failed for the last month they'd only be set back a month.

They'd have to make it from scratch might have been longer. Although I know they would have all the concept art and such down.

[Yung]

I think that the most suspicious aspect here was the fact that technical director was taking the work home with her. Does Pixar not have any regulations in place to not only prevent but punish employees of any ranking that 'take work home?' I mean obviously beneficial in this case but shouldn't that pose some concern to such a large organization especially considering she had enough to replace all the missing data?

[Romy]

I think that the most suspicious aspect here was the fact that technical director was taking the work home with her. Does Pixar not have any regulations in place to not only prevent but punish employees of any ranking that 'take work home?' I mean obviously beneficial in this case but shouldn't that pose some concern to such a large organization especially considering she had enough to replace all the missing data?

There was no profit for her to make. The characters are trademarked.

Why punish her?

[artificial]

What if she contracted a virus? Then you have the movie all of the web, which would cost 10s of millions of dollars in damage. I'd have thought they'd have all the files pretty locked down.

[Yung]

There was no profit for her to make. The characters are trademarked.

Why punish her?

What if she contracted a virus? Then you have the movie all of the web, which would cost 10s of millions of dollars in damage. I'd have thought they'd have all the files pretty locked down.

This is one of the many potential reasons that this exact thing should be regulated better.

[Dartma]

who cares guys.

coo (toy) story toxicS

[Romy]

This is one of the many potential reasons that this exact thing should be regulated better.

I doubt a Virus would upload such large files to the net.

who cares guys.

coo (toy) story toxicS

Edited by Pikachuu, 14 May 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[Jewbert]

I can't imagine the doomed feeling they felt when that happened. The only similiar feeling I can recall having is my computer crash with a report that hadn't been saved. That doesn't even come close to a movie being lost.

[Yung]

You'd be surprised at the capabilities of viruses.

[Romy]

You'd be surprised at the capabilities of viruses.

Perhaps.

Though the odds of one uploading such a large file without her noticing is slim if not null.

[Yung]

She could have left her computer running while she was at work. I've seen viruses which only kick in once a computer has been left idle for 2+ hours.

[Hydrogen]

She could have left her computer running while she was at work. I've seen viruses which only kick in once a computer has been left idle for 2+ hours.

You have to trust your employees man. If you don't, why did you hire them?

[Yung]

You have to trust your employees man. If you don't, why did you hire them?

Fair point. Still, one would think in an organization of their scale that sort of scenario wouldn't happen with their employees.

[artificial]

You have to trust your employees man. If you don't, why did you hire them?

It's fair enough trusting employees in the office, but would you really let your employees take a project worth 100s of millions of dollars on to their personal computers? The point being that most corporate environments have firewalls and security precautions in place to protect their data, while home users do not.

And as for the virus not uploading that data to the web, what about RATs? If someone personally found fragments of the latest Toy Story movie before release, it would be very tempting to take that data. Plus, it'd be easy to transfer it in the background, and even in parts if she doesn't leave the computer on all the time

I remember recently when the latest XMen movie got leaked online before release. It cost them tens of millions of dollars. I'm not 100% sure how it was leaked, but it just goes to show how damaging it can be.

[trizzle]

It's fair enough trusting employees in the office, but would you really let your employees take a project worth 100s of millions of dollars on to their personal computers? The point being that most corporate environments have firewalls and security precautions in place to protect their data, while home users do not.

And as for the virus not uploading that data to the web, what about RATs? If someone personally found fragments of the latest Toy Story movie before release, it would be very tempting to take that data. Plus, it'd be easy to transfer it in the background, and even in parts if she doesn't leave the computer on all the time

I remember recently when the latest XMen movie got leaked online before release. It cost them tens of millions of dollars. I'm not 100% sure how it was leaked, but it just goes to show how damaging it can be.

Good point Also, I like how shocked they sound that she had the movie at home they were all "....do what now gurl?"

But yay! I loved Toy Story 2 - Jessie was like my idol <3 She was awesome. (apart from wanting to go into storage and all that was fucking dumb)

[Sweeney]

Why would she have her dedicated work computer connected to the internet?

[Waser Lave]

I think it's important to read the comment on the bottom of that page:

A subtle but important distinction: The *footage* was not lost. We didn’t really have footage yet. What got removed were the data that describe the movie: Models, textures, animation cue sheets, etc. That’s why it was small enough to fit on one machine. Footage would imply final renders, which take up a lot more space. Of course, it can also be recomputed if you still have “the movie”, by which we mean the data to render it.

It wasn't any actual footage of the film so it would probably make sense for a technical director to have copies of things like the models and textures etc to work on away from the office.

[iargue]

"Backups have been failing for the last month"

Worst IT department ever?

Why would she have her dedicated work computer connected to the internet?

Why are power lines, CCTV, and ATM's connected to the internet?

People are retards when it comes to computer security. Simple as that.

I think that the most suspicious aspect here was the fact that technical director was taking the work home with her. Does Pixar not have any regulations in place to not only prevent but punish employees of any ranking that 'take work home?' I mean obviously beneficial in this case but shouldn't that pose some concern to such a large organization especially considering she had enough to replace all the missing data?

A)Regulations when it comes to computer securitty has always been far behind were they should be. Most movie companies fail to protect their data in the slightest, and ignore anything that comes to it.
B)It is actually very common for people to work on various parts of the movie on their own computers/from home. Editing of a film is a long process and many employees opt to work on it long into the night from home.
C)Higher up people (The this person) get early release watermarked copies of the movie for them to review and watch. They take them home, show them to friends, etc. The movie companies use specific watermarks or features to identify any movies that are stolen online to know if someone releases the movie before them. Either they will have a certain scene missing, or an extra item displayed on the green screen, or anything really. If they find an online release that matches the watermark you were given, you are arrested. Thus its fine to let them take it home, because if they leak it, they are screwed.

[Yung]

C)Higher up people (The this person) get early release watermarked copies of the movie for them to review and watch. They take them home, show them to friends, etc. The movie companies use specific watermarks or features to identify any movies that are stolen online to know if someone releases the movie before them. Either they will have a certain scene missing, or an extra item displayed on the green screen, or anything really. If they find an online release that matches the watermark you were given, you are arrested. Thus its fine to let them take it home, because if they leak it, they are screwed.

Someone of this level should know how to remove/add the watermark elements.