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#1 copperhaxor

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:12 AM

Ok, so im currently using 5 accounts and ive been alternating between them (with no proxy) and i have my main account that i run from a diffrent network entirely, so all 5 accounts have been connected my main has not been connected, i currently have all my proffit sat on a friends account waiting to transfer to my main when i know it safe,

I want to start running all 5 accounts at the same time (via proxy of course) if i purchase a nice fast proxy thats well hidden and i run all 5 accounts at the same time, will they all still get frozen as the same i.p address has logged into them? or will it just chain freeze the i.p that it catches cheating at the time (in this case none as its behind a proxy)?

Thanks for help

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    #2 Rainie

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:32 AM

    If your accounts have had close interactions with one another then it's very likely that they'll all get frozen, but if they haven't then only the account caught cheating will get iced (even if they're all under the same ip address).

    #3 lackofaith

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:33 AM

    I think as long as they're independent for some time, it's safe.
    However, that's just a guess. It's not even an educated one.

    #4 copperhaxor

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:39 AM

    If your accounts have had close interactions with one another then it's very likely that they'll all get frozen, but if they haven't then only the account caught cheating will get iced (even if they're all under the same ip address).


    SO they dont chain freeze your i.p? like see what accounts you've been on with that i.p and freeze em all? if so then why even use proxys? lol

    #5 likerobots

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:40 AM

    in my experience, i've only ever gotten chained when my emails were connected. i abed on 4 accounts, and when one account got iced, all the accounts connected via email were also chained

    #6 Rainie

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

    SO they dont chain freeze your i.p? like see what accounts you've been on with that i.p and freeze em all? if so then why even use proxys? lol


    No, they don't just automatically chain freeze all accounts that originate from one ip address, but if they believe that multiple accounts are owned by the same user they'll chain freeze them.

    #7 copperhaxor

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

    Ah really, thats handy to know, well i think im just gonna experiment with the accounts of got n see who gets iced, ive got enough NP to buy some more, then il try n keep the next ones i buy seperate as much as possible including proxys/emails/ trading n shops in general

    #8 Rainie

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:46 AM

    in my experience, i've only ever gotten chained when my emails were connected. i abed on 4 accounts, and when one account got iced, all the accounts connected via email were also chained


    I've actually sold shells that got frozen while the other account(s) connected to the same email were fine.

    #9 Tokio

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:50 AM

    If you're just starting to use a proxy on your 5 other accounts, there's still a chance that if they freeze the proxy they will freeze your IP because it's so recently been involved with those accounts. When I switch from my real IP to a proxy I usually let the account go "stale" for awhile, or use a few free proxies for a few weeks, before using the new proxy. I've moved from my IP to a proxy a few times without waiting and haven't been iced as long as I was careful, but a few of my friends have been frozen on their real IPs for doing what you're planning to do

    Bottom line I guess is it's really inconsistent :rolleyes: good luck.

    #10 silentarbitor

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    Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:32 PM

    From what ive read, chain freezing occurs when transferring large amounts of np of 1 mil of more. TNT somehow looks into these and if the transfer doesn't look legit all accounts involved with the np transfer get frozen.

    #11 DanPh

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    Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:58 AM

    i have a question, i ab on three different accounts with the same proxy but i dont let them interact with each other ie trades, gifting (other than the shared ip's) would that be prone to chain ice? and if ever ive gotten away with it, and im planning to buy an mp and gift it to another account diffrent from those three, would i be frozen?

    #12 Rainie

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    Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:16 AM

    i have a question, i ab on three different accounts with the same proxy but i dont let them interact with each other ie trades, gifting (other than the shared ip's) would that be prone to chain ice? and if ever ive gotten away with it, and im planning to buy an mp and gift it to another account diffrent from those three, would i be frozen?


    1. It'd still be possible for the accounts to get chain frozen if TNT just slightly suspects that the accounts all share a same owner (since you know, TNT's pretty fucking annoying), but it's less likely if they don't interact with one another.

    2. Well you wouldn't get iced just for buying and gifting an MP, but if the account that did the buying and gifting got caught for cheating it's possible that the account that was gifted to will get chain frozen along with it.

    #13 DanPh

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    Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:58 AM

    1. It'd still be possible for the accounts to get chain frozen if TNT just slightly suspects that the accounts all share a same owner (since you know, TNT's pretty fucking annoying), but it's less likely if they don't interact with one another.


    I'm really hoping that that would be my case. except for the shared ip, i really dont let the three interact ith each other but with tnt youll never really know. coz ive like gotten 15 accounts or more frozen just experimenting being chain ice d. lol.

    2. Well you wouldn't get iced just for buying and gifting an MP, but if the account that did the buying and gifting got caught for cheating it's possible that the account that was gifted to will get chain frozen along with it.

    this is partly true for me.. but i also got accounts that werent frozen when the giver was. i guess the receiver account should never play games or anything that gets profit .

    #14 fllyinblade

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    Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:08 AM

    they won't chain freeze you as some people play neopets in LAN


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