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#1 Bone

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:37 PM

Jeffrey P. Bezos has never been known for thinking small. And in an interview aired Sunday on CBS's "60 Minutes," he outlined his latest plan for revolutionizing the retail industry: using drones to deliver packages in as little as 30 minutes. Declaring himself an "optimist," the Amazon.com founder and chief executive predicted the technology could be brought to market in as little as five years.
 
This is more than a theoretical idea. Bezos showed CBS's Charlie Rose a working prototype of an eight-rotor helicopter drone called an "octocopter." Emblazoned with "Amazon Prime Air," the flying robot has a claw at the bottom that allows it to scoop up packages at Amazon fulfillment centers and carry them to customers' front lawns.
 
Ryan Calo, a law professor at the University of Washington who has written extensively about drones, said that this is precisely the kind of application Congress had in mind in 2012 when it ordered the Federal Aviation Administration to open the sky to commercial drones. There are strict limits on the use of drones for commercial purposes, but that is scheduled to change soon.
 
"By 2015, the FAA has to come up with a set of rules that integrates just the kind of thing that Amazon is talking about" into the national airspace, Calo said.
 
Amazon will have to convince federal regulators that the technology is safe and that it wouldn't lead to excessive congestion. "If what Amazon proposes doesn't feel safe, the FAA could get worried about the prospect of these things falling out of the sky," Calo said. In his "60 Minutes" interview, Bezos said that the prototype octocopter has redundant motors so it can stay in the air even if one fails.
 
Calo said the FAA may be skittish about allowing fully automated drones in the sky. At least initially, the agency might require that a human guide the drones remotely during deliveries. That might initially drive up the cost of the service, limiting its use to customers willing to pay a premium.
 
Technological issues also could limit the technology's value in the next few years. According to Calo, the current generation of autonomous flying machines can carry only a few pounds and stay in the air for about 15 minutes. That means that it probably wouldn't be possible to serve an entire metropolitan area from a single fulfillment center.
 
But Amazon may be able to overcome both obstacles in the long run. That means that someday, unmanned flights that could allow 30-minute deliveries to become as common and affordable as two-day delivery are today.
 
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Oh, America and its drones. That this is even a possibility is in equal parts incredible and terrifying.



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    #2 Scot

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:42 PM

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    #3 Neoquest

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:42 PM

    I saw this video a few hours ago today. Seems like an interesting idea, but I'm highly skeptical of how feasible it could really be.



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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:46 PM

    What Scot said. I feel like drones are pretty vulnerable to being hijacked or stolen.

    Plus, imagine a group of kids on motorbikes, following a drone to your house. They park up on the pavement by your lawn, and wait for it to land. Are you going to go out and fight for your delivery? Like hell you are.

    You just got screwed.

    #5 Elindoril

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:49 PM

    What if the drone gains sentience and runs off with my precious cargo?

    #6 Sweeney

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:49 PM

    What if the drone gains sentience and runs off with my precious cargo?


    It would probably bring it back.

    #7 Bone

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:51 PM

    What Scot said. I feel like drones are pretty vulnerable to being hijacked or stolen.

    Plus, imagine a group of kids on motorbikes, following a drone to your house. They park up on the pavement by your lawn, and wait for it to land. Are you going to go out and fight for your delivery? Like hell you are.

    You just got screwed.

     

    Meh. I agree that they're vulnerable to hijacking/theft.

     

    But how is that situation any different than the group of kids following a traditional delivery van to your house? I suppose there's the driver in that case, but like hell is my local delivery driver going to win any fight.



    #8 Sweeney

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:53 PM

    Meh. I agree that they're vulnerable to hijacking/theft.
     
    But how is that situation any different than the group of kids following a traditional delivery van to your house? I suppose there's the driver in that case, but like hell is my local delivery driver going to win any fight.


    I think, psychologically, it's very different. It's much easier to convince yourself to perform a crime that has no other human involved. In this case, you could make an argument for the recipient, but it's unlikely they'll be outside and actively involved in the delivery.

    Plus, of course, a delivery driver is much more likely to notice themselves being followed by a gang and react accordingly.

    #9 Bone

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:59 PM

    I think, psychologically, it's very different. It's much easier to convince yourself to perform a crime that has no other human involved. In this case, you could make an argument for the recipient, but it's unlikely they'll be outside and actively involved in the delivery.

    Plus, of course, a delivery driver is much more likely to notice themselves being followed by a gang and react accordingly.

     

    Fair. I'm not convinced that that would be enough of a problem to discourage use of the service, though. And presumably, there would be some sort of security/safety features that Amazon could test before widespread implementation.



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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 08:01 PM

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    Flying dildo-copters?

    ..I'm in.



    #11 luvsmyncis

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 08:34 PM

    Plus, imagine a group of kids on motorbikes, following a drone to your house. They park up on the pavement by your lawn, and wait for it to land. Are you going to go out and fight for your delivery? Like hell you are.


    Arm the drones with weapons.

    #12 Kat

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    Posted 01 December 2013 - 08:36 PM

    Arm the drones with weapons.

    Too late.

     

    ..thanks Obama.



    #13 Sweeney

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    Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:34 AM

    Arm the drones with weapons.


    And give them AI to determine when to use them.

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    #14 Dan

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    Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:53 AM

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    #15 Sweeney

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    Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:00 AM

    Ooh, you dirty reddit reposter :p



    #16 Dan

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    Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:03 AM

    Ooh, you dirty reddit reposter :p

     

    Too funny to miss :p



    #17 Sweeney

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    Posted 02 December 2013 - 09:05 AM

    Also from the front page of reddit:
     
    Drone delivery already legal in China & being utilized by SF Express

    #18 pyke

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    Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:05 AM

    What Scot said. I feel like drones are pretty vulnerable to being hijacked or stolen.

    Plus, imagine a group of kids on motorbikes, following a drone to your house. They park up on the pavement by your lawn, and wait for it to land. Are you going to go out and fight for your delivery? Like hell you are.

    You just got screwed.

     

     I'd probably go out there and threaten to run their bikes over before the package could land.



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    Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:11 AM

     I'd probably go out there and threaten to run their bikes over before the package could land.

     

    Like that guy with the black range rover a little while back? Yeah that worked out well for him...



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    Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:00 PM

    Like that guy with the black range rover a little while back? Yeah that worked out well for him...

    Well, he did make the mistake of driving into an area where he got blocked in. It WAS going pretty excellent prior to that.



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    Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:36 PM

    Well, he did make the mistake of driving into an area where he got blocked in. It WAS going pretty excellent prior to that.

     
    The whole thing reminded me of this:

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    Posted 06 December 2013 - 04:18 PM

    Jeffrey P. Bezos has never been known for thinking small. And in an interview aired Sunday on CBS's "60 Minutes," he outlined his latest plan for revolutionizing the retail industry: using drones to deliver packages in as little as 30 minutes. Declaring himself an "optimist," the Amazon.com founder and chief executive predicted the technology could be brought to market in as little as five years.
     
    This is more than a theoretical idea. Bezos showed CBS's Charlie Rose a working prototype of an eight-rotor helicopter drone called an "octocopter." Emblazoned with "Amazon Prime Air," the flying robot has a claw at the bottom that allows it to scoop up packages at Amazon fulfillment centers and carry them to customers' front lawns.

     
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    Oh, America and its drones. That this is even a possibility is in equal parts incredible and terrifying.

     

    Those are some great goals.

     

    Lets wish im all the best :D Drones... noting humae about having robots do your killing for you... signature strikes... disgusting. :( no honor.



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    Posted 07 December 2013 - 06:05 AM



    #24 Sweeney

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    Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:48 AM

    Those are some great goals.
     
    Lets wish im all the best :D Drones... noting humae about having robots do your killing for you... signature strikes... disgusting. :( no honor.


    I don't think the Amazon drones are going to be dropping air strikes.

    Unless that's something they'll add to Amazon Prime...


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