Wowee-zowee, I regret posting my opinion already.
Your long-winded defense of white supremacy and anti-semetism says a lot more about your proximity and complacency toward it.
Thus begins the unfounded attacks on my character, cool. Because I defend someone who made an offensive joke and got roasted by mainstream news... I am therefore in close proximity to white supremacy and anti-semitism? I just have a dark sense of humor, and I don't get offended easily. Where did I even defend white supremacy or anti-semetism? I gave my opinion that I don't think it's fair for news outlets to call him a Nazi, and I said the joke was poor taste, but that's just some people's sense of humor.
What's known for a fact is that he funded and facilitated the Nazist message of "death to all jews" to be broadcasted to his audience of over fifty million.
Yeah, because he was so shocked that the people in the video actually did it. Just because the words appeared in his video doesn't mean he endorsed them. He literally put them there to show how ridiculous this Fiverr thing can be. If a feminist video includes some man saying "I like sexual assault" and then the feminist says how shocking this is, does this mean that message "I like sexual assault" is endorsed by the channel? Of course not.
Here is the full WSJ article, in case if you didn't read it (since it's subscription only and all that):
You argue that news media have a responsibility to not slander against an individual, which is true. However, what I see is a professionally written news article on the Wall Street Journal, simply telling the facts. Pewdiepie DID post videos using anti-Semitic rhetoric as jokes! Notice how the WSJ had enough nuance to never call Pewdiepie an outright racist (stitching out of context videos into a story?), just that he used racist jokes. Furthermore, while it is fairly self evident that these were jokes, this quote from the article is concerning: "In Mr. Kjellberg’s case, a major neo-Nazi website has embraced his statements." If you get to the point where a neo-Nazi website embrace your statements, it might be a sign that you took it too far.
I have a few points to make in response to this.
Firstly, the video I'm referring to that stitched a false narrative is this: http://www.wsj.com/v...8F1E1ABEA9.html
Notice how, unlike the rest of the article which you had to subscribe for, this video was free. It was also VERY sensationalized and dramatic. Not exactly unbiased reporting. ALSO, you're right. The REST of the article from the WSJ is less one sided. Slightly, at the least. But that just feeds my point even more: The WSJ posted a VERY sensationalized video (which is what most people have seen. Most of what goes viral is videos, not articles). Also the title is sensationalized. It's only once the WSJ has your money, you're subscribed to them, then they let you off the hook and they're like "So here's exactly what happened, it's not that bad but it's still kinda bad." Which is fair. It was kinda bad. But not NEARLY as bad as the video and title make him sound.
In response to the thing about neo-nazis supporting pewd, that's just ridiculous. They're doing that to screw around and make a social commentary. That racist group later said that they supported the writers of the article that defamed Felix. They're messing around. Even the neo-nazi group realized Felix was just joking and that he was getting screwed by the media, so they added fuel to it.
@Cass (My quotes got screwed up for some reason)
"But Pewdiepie has a huge audience, he should set an example" or "Pewdiepie has a really young impressionable audience". Well, firstly, Pewdiepie's not their parent. The notion that public (entertainment) figures are obligated to set the right example (same goes for popular music artists, for example) is absolutely stupid in my opinion.
110% agree with this. Just because a person (Pewdiepie) happened to become famous and have a big platform of listeners, he suddenly has to be completely uncontroversial and have no human qualities like a dark sense of humor or human reactions to things? If people don't like him, don't watch him. I don't like him, so I don't watch him. Why is he a stand in for parents here? Why is he responsible for what random kids hear? Why are the parents not accountable for what their kids watch? Yeah, Pewdiepie used to be kid friendly, but he's not anymore. Didn't he have his ass shaved in a filthy frank video? Don't let your kids watch him. Jesus.
Last but not least, another issue that these events raise for me: what happened to actual objective news? Why aren't journalists even trying anymore? At school we used to be taught there's a difference between a news article and an opinion piece. Nowadays I can't see the difference anymore.
So much this. Where is the objective news. I'm tired of reading right wing and left wing news and trying to figure out where the middle ground is. Especially since 95% of mainstream news outlets now are left wing. I'm an apathetic, left-leaning centrist. I believe that gay people should be allowed to get married and I also believe that stupid teenage boys should be able to make dumb jokes about gay people among themselves if they want. Why do I feel like everyone perceives my "do what you want, just don't take it too far" views are so bigoted?
Edited by Generic, 19 February 2017 - 05:01 PM.