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[Radiuju]

I'm not going to argue or debate I just want to say your thesis is great.

[amyjia]

I'm not going to argue or debate I just want to say your thesis is great.

Agreed.. .. This is the first time I have heard someone explain death in this way..I'm not saying just because I haven't heard it explained this way that someone hasn't already thought it , but Joe if you wrote your thoughts about death in an essay, you could probably get it published..

[Daniel ~ Bong]

I also do not belive in a god in any form, and I think your theory could be quite accurate.

[Noitidart]

Awaiting death egaerly is all what I'm about too. I can't wait to go to heaven! I'm hoping I will I think im on track

[Mr. Hobo]

Awaiting death egaerly is all what I'm about too. I can't wait to go to heaven! I'm hoping I will I think im on track

Lol same here. I've even toned down on the amount of sinning I've been doing. Not that type of sinning . I meant lieing and insulting people .

[Sweeney]

Awaiting death egaerly is all what I'm about too. I can't wait to go to heaven! I'm hoping I will I think im on track

Hands up if you think Noit didn't actually -read- what I wrote past the first line?


And thanks Toxic, and Amy
I'm quite fond of the idea myself

[Dazz]

Then does that mean i'm going to die young?. Cause i havn't remembered my dreams for months now...Also i've fainted, and whenever watching video's in school they make me feel faint too...

[Sweeney]

Then does that mean i'm going to die young?. Cause i havn't remembered my dreams for months now...Also i've fainted, and whenever watching video's in school they make me feel faint too...

Heh, don't worry Darren.
I don't think forgetting dreams is any kind of life/death indicator.

I guess you didn't really follow the gist of the argument But never mind xP

[Dazz]

Heh, don't worry Darren.
I don't think forgetting dreams is any kind of life/death indicator.

I guess you didn't really follow the gist of the argument But never mind xP

Well you know how my brain works with science >.<

But your thought did seem pretty convincing

[Sweeney]

I felt like bumping a -really- old topic... but this is as old as I could be arsed to go.
Oh, and it's one of mine, because I figured that would annoy as few people as possible...

Kill it if you want, but it'd be interesting to see if anyone's views have changed since... April?

[Charmender]

Heh i have and always will belive that once you die thats it, the whole reason we know what we are doing is because of our brain, i would like to think that we reincarnate, but thats just because i want to live on.

but seriously, once our brain shuts down thats it, you dont even know your dead, you dont face the blackness, you dont see blackness forever, your just gone, nothing left at all, you cant think you cant do anything its over and you dont even get to look over your life again, its hard to explain but i think that showed it

[Sweeney]

I should add that since I wrote this topic, I have died.

I was in hospital, before an operation to have a portable electrocardiogram implanted in my chest. The doctor needed to take some bloods, so she put a canular (sp?) in my arm, inside of the elbow as usual, and took the bloods. Thing was, she opened the canular before the vial was properly inserted, so I had a venous bleed everywhere.
Now, this wouldn't have been so bad, had I been in a bed. As it was, however, I was in a chair, which did not have a collapsing back, so when I passed out a few minutes later, I couldn't be laid flat.
I don't know how much you all know about fainting, but the reason the body does it is to make blood flow to the head easier, when the brain is deprived of oxygen. So my brain was obviously oxygen deprived for longer than it should have been, and I died.
And guess what? I was resuscitated immediately.
I suppose you want to know my experience of that instant? Well, perhaps you don't care, and of course this is my belief so I can't discount the fact that it could be my mind showing me what I want to see (especially having espoused the power of the dying brain all those months ago), but I saw images flashing before me. But by gum they were going fast, totally indecipherably, though I am pretty sure they were images, not just flashing and dancing colours. More pertinantly, it was absolutely terrifying. Exactly as I'd expect living an eternity in an instant would be. My brain did not expect to come back from that, and timelines crashed together.
Like I said, it may just be my mind showing me what I wanted, or a misinterpretation based on my beliefs, but to me, it's at least a shred of evidence, irreproducible as it may be.

[Sweeney]

Indeed, I see nothing wrong with the concept of a soul...

[Sweeney]

No, I can't explain it.
To me, that's what a soul is, an unanalysable component of our existence.

[travis]

I didn't read this in april when it was posted...
But that's a very interesting read

[nox]

I felt like bumping a -really- old topic... but this is as old as I could be arsed to go.
Oh, and it's one of mine, because I figured that would annoy as few people as possible...

Kill it if you want, but it'd be interesting to see if anyone's views have changed since... April?

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anyways i believe in reincarnation, once you die you just come back as *a* lifeform.

[Fatal]

mhm... maybe we dream when we die? xD that would be SO cool... i can SOMETIMES control my dreams...

a lot of the time I know when im dreaming, its kind of weird

[Sweeney]

So in fact there may be something greater out there that created this unexplainable soul we have? Something that mere humans cannot understand, and that science cannot explain?

I said it was inexplicable.
Putting it on a pedestal as the work of God is an explanation, woefully flawed as it may be.

Can you not be happy with the fact that it exists? Why does it need a reason?

[cara]

Nothing happens, unless proven to me otherwise.

We die, our bodies disintegrate and thats the end of it. No floating magical soul flys out of our carcasses and no light leading to a mystical beyond appears with rainbows and fluffy clouds.

In a way we live, I suppose. Our bodies fall into the earth (assuming youre burried, whatever if not.), perhaps organisms eat it, and they give birth, and the organisms die, eaten by another animal and so on and so forth.
Whatever.
It's the only thing that keeps me happy about dying. Knowing I wont be completely gone. And I suppose in a way we all live on in memories.

[Sweeney]

So, all you're life your going to sit here and be ignorant about the possibility of our souls being created by something else? Yet you'll fight tooth and nail to explain how life got here? It doesn't make sense, it looks to me that you're so ignorant about God that you won't even admit His possible existence even though it's sitting here right in front of your face. That's just really really sad. Science explains things, it tries to give reason to why things exist, like why an apple falls from a tree. All the sudden something that point to the idea of creation doesn't need a reason? Some scientist you are.

I mean that's like Newton watching an apple fall from a tree and having some person pass by and ask "Why did that apple fall?" and Newton responding, "Can you not be happy with the fact that they do fall? Why does it need a reason?".

You miss the point.
Until I am satisfied with evidence to prove a theory, I am content with the fact that something just happens.
I can come up with as many outlandish explanations for why apples fall, but until it was proven by scientific method, I would never quote one as fact.

Interestingly enough, though, I don't believe we have anything like enough understanding of... well, anything... to even begin a scientific analysis of the soul.
So for now, I am content that it is simply something I believe exists.

[Ives]

I'm content with death, because I'm already saved from the wrath of having to suck Satan off every morning if everything I believe exists does. And if it doesn't, well, who really does want to live forever? I can imagine how hard it is for some people to conceive the idea that simply flatout not existing would be horrifying, but when you're dead, you're already dead and you don't have a conscience or anything of that sort. It's like before you were conceived by mommy and daddy.