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Phelps church agrees to cancel protest at Amish girls' funeral


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#1 Guest_Casilla_*

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:01 AM

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Anti-Gay Kansas Church Cancels Protests at Funerals for Slain Amish Girls

Wednesday, October 04, 2006

By Sara Bonisteel

The controversial anti-homosexual Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan., has canceled its plans to stage a protest at the funerals of the five Amish girls executed in their Pennsylvania school, a church official said Wednesday.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, the daughter of church's pastor, told FOXNews.com the group canceled the protests in exchange for an hour of radio time Thursday on syndicated talk-show host Mike Gallagher's radio program.

"We're not going to any of the Amish funerals — that's the agreement we're making — that we won't go to any of them," Phelps-Roper told FOXNews.com.

On Tuesday, the church posted a flyer touting the demonstrations in response to the attendance of Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who has spoken out against the church publicly. Both Amish and non-Amish residents of Lancaster County — where the shooting took place — have vowed to not allow any protesters anywhere near the funeral services; Rendell called the church members "insane."

Phelps-Roper, daughter of Rev. Fred Phelps, said the church had planned to cancel the protests if given media time on radio and television as a platform to espouse Westboro's beliefs.

Gallagher said that church officials would have to sign a document making them liable for the airtime if they broke their promise not to demonstrate.

"It's awful for me to give up an hour of my radio show ... but I think it’s worth the sacrifice to keep them away," Gallagher said.

But she defended the church's initial decision to protest at the Amish girls' funerals.

"Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those poor little girls — blah, blah, blah — they brought the wrath upon themselves," Phelps-Roper said, adding that the Amish "don't serve God, they serve themselves."

On Monday, Charles Carl Roberts IV killed five girls — Naomi Rose Ebersole, 7; Anna Mae Stoltzfus, 12; Marian Fisher, 13; Mary Liz Miller, 8; and her sister Lena Miller, 7 — in a rural Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster County, Pa.

Donald Kraybill, a professor of sociology at Elizabethtown College in Lancaster County, Pa., calls the church's plans a publicity stunt.

"I don't think there's any connection between the Amish incident and their agenda. They just want to get in the spotlight," Kraybill said. "It's giving them national attention and it's a cheap and easy and really terrible way to gain some visibility."

The church's latest flyer, posted on its Web site notes these protests will be against Rendell for "slanderous" statements against the church.

Westboro's latest rhetoric is in line with the other beliefs of it's 70 church members, who hold that the deaths of U.S. troops are God's punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality.

The Westboro Baptist Church has made its name demonstrating at the funerals of soldiers killed in the Iraq war. Their controversial and colorful placards proclaim their anti-gay stance with slogans such as "Thank God for Dead Soldiers," "America Is Doomed" and "Soldier Fag in Hell."

Before it garnered national attention, the church made its name around Kansas, where 16 years ago, it started protested the funerals of AIDS victims. And while their demonstrations of late have focused on the funerals of U.S. soldiers, Westboro church members have taken their picket signs to the memorials for the 12 Sago miners who perished in January in West Virginia.

Earlier this year, prompted by the church protests, Congress passed a law that banned protesters from military funerals at federal cemeteries. More than a dozen states have passed similar legislation creating protest-free buffer zones around cemeteries during funerals.

Phelps-Roper told FOXNews.com in February that the church has a right to protest.

"We are delivering a message," Phelps-Roper said. "God is punishing this nation and he is using the IED [improvised explosive device] as his weapon of choice."


http://www.foxnews.c...,217760,00.html

I absolutely hate Fred Phelps. My dad grew up in Topeka and had a restaurant there, and my grandma lived there pretty much until she died, so we were always going up on the weekends, etc, to visit.

And these people would have - of all things - almost pornographic signs of homosexual relations along with the words, "GOD HATES YOU", etc.

FURTHERMORE, they wouldn't even protest on their own property or in public organized events. They'd go and stand on the sidewalk outside of some random church - normally one that had said something against them or otherwise did not promote the same message of hate - which was everyone. But since it was on a sidewalk (always facing a street), it was public property and thus they could stand there without trespassing.

And of course, it made the church in question look bad because it made it look like they supported it.

And they couldn't stop at picketing churches on Sundays. Oh no, they picketed funerals all the damn time.

And it just makes Kansas in general look bad, as well.

They hate Bush because he signed a law making it illegal for them to picket at military funerals. I mean WTF.

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In 2003, before the fall of Saddam Hussein during the Iraq War, Phelps wrote Hussein a letter praising his regime for being, in his opinion, "the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets." Furthermore, he stated that he would like to send a delegation to Baghdad to "preach the Gospel" for one week. Hussein granted permission, and a group of WBC congregants traveled to Iraq to protest against the U.S. The parishioners stood on the streets of Baghdad and heavily patronized Baghdad establishments holding signs condemning Bill and Hillary Clinton and anal sex.


It was just horrible.

I'm surprised no one has murdered Phelps, yet.

Their barkin' motto is, ""God Loves Everyone" - The Greatest Lie Ever Told"

Edited by Casilla, 05 October 2006 - 11:03 AM.


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    #2 pyke

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:06 AM

    Wow, that is just insane. This phelp guy is pretty damn close to being evil blink.gif


    #3 ink

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 11:10 AM

    "Those Amish people, everyone is sitting around talking about those poor little girls — blah, blah, blah — they brought the wrath upon themselves," Phelps-Roper said, adding that the Amish "don't serve God, they serve themselves."

    How dare he say such things, this shows extreme ignorance. My mother grew up near Lancaster, the Amish serve god more than anyone could think. They serve God, they pray to Him, they work the land for Him, they stay away from modern life so as to try not to upset Him. I visited my grandfather a lot as a child and played with his Amish neighbors... they were pure and simple...

    Prejudice leads from ignorance. Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kansas... you are a group of terrorists in my eyes.

    #4 Frizzle

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:37 PM

    Shouldn't this be in jokes and fun section?

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:47 PM

    I've protested the Phelps church before.

    #6 Jeff

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 01:49 PM

    QUOTE(Frizzle @ Oct 5 2006, 04:37 PM) View Post

    Shouldn't this be in jokes and fun section?

    Agreed...

    It seems this phelps guy/girl is looking for attention in my opinion...why would you say something like that in front of a whole bunch of people >_< unless he/she just really IS that evil.

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 02:48 PM

    QUOTE(69 @ Oct 5 2006, 02:49 PM) View Post

    Agreed...

    It seems this phelps guy/girl is looking for attention in my opinion...why would you say something like that in front of a whole bunch of people >_< unless he/she just really IS that evil.

    No, no, Phelps is VERY serious. It's not a joke at all. Phelps has been doing this for what, almost three decades, now?

    There HAS been some speculation about him being a plant by gay rights activists in order to make anti-gay rights groups look bad, but two of his sons who managed to escape their father, have testified time and time again that Phelps is VERY serious about his beliefs. The kids were beaten and always thought they were going to Hell.

    http://www.rickross..../westboro3.html

    When another one of his sons eloped with a girl he didn't approve of, he spent weeks revolving his sermons about the girl, with titles literally like, "Debbie Valgos: The Whore of Topeka". Eventually, the girl, who had no drug history whatsoever, "died of an overdose" in some very mysterious circumstances. The son now denies he ever even knew a girl named Debbie Valgos.

    The family is barked up, and it's no joke at all.

    #8 Plew

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 02:56 PM

    QUOTE(pyke @ Oct 5 2006, 12:06 PM) View Post

    Wow, that is just insane. This phelp guy is pretty damn close to being evil blink.gif

    how heartless crybaby.gif

    #9 Christopher Robin

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:23 PM

    He was going to protest at little girls funerals... he's despicable. (sp?)

    Why hasn't anyone killed him yet? I mean, honestly. Someone should fix him good.... you know, beat the shit out of that bastard... I don't like the idea of gays, but I don't preach to strangers tongue.gif Someone should kick his ass good...

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:51 PM

    I was thinking of shooting this guy in the head, because these "true christians" are really barking annoying. But I'm sure nature will take its course in a matter of years. He's been quite the target of assault, so there's a start.

    #11 Nova John

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:54 PM

    what in the name of all things holy are these church going idiots trying to achieve???

    "lets protest homosexuality at an Amish Funeral!" has to be the STUPIDEST thing ive heard today. It doesnt tie in at all! 5 Amish girls die cuz some dude had a beef with the Amish, its a tradjedy, but how is it tied to "God is punishing america for allowing homosexuality"???

    AND how does it tie in with dead american soldiers? WTF is in their holy water?

    THIS is why im against religion. Insanity inspired protests in the name of a supreme being. How is that going to get them their afterlife? Doesnt it say somehwere in the bible that its gods job to judge and punish people? So why are they taking it upon themselves to do so?

    Blasted religious sheep and their insane clergy...

    We have a similar nut in NZ. Leader of the Destiny Church. They held a rather violent haka (watch an all blacks rugby game from the beginning if you dont know what i mean, or google it) to protest the gay-friendly marrage bill in NZ. They had 5 year old children protesting homosexuality and saying they should all be killed for their sins. Truely evil.

    #12 Juvyniled

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 03:57 PM

    What I find strange is that the disturbed guy apparently felt bad about molesting two girls in the past. So why did he slaughter a bunch of girls in a school room?

    #13 Christopher Robin

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:02 PM

    Juvy, he LIKED it and wanted to do it again...

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 04:05 PM

    I heard about this on the Howard Stern show.. Stupid greedy bastards.

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    Posted 05 October 2006 - 05:34 PM

    My appologies if you misinterpreted my meaning. I am put off all religion becaue of these too common splinter sects which speak up about the wrong things. Thats just me. I have no problem with individuals within said splinter sects, but the group as a whole. "A person is smart, but people are stupid" as the saying goes. The group as a whole is a problem, but individually no one person would be considered evil, unless that one person is the "shepherd" which leads the others to protests such as these. They are evil. (to some greater extent)

    I have many friends whom are part of religion, and have no issue with their beliefs. UNTIL they believe it is their duty to cram their religion down my throat. Then i have a beef.

    Besides we only ever hear of the religious groups that take things too far, i'm sure there are plenty which would suit me and my lack of commitment tongue.gif i just havent found any...

    also, i dont think the supporters of said religions should be killed. Just subdued and alienated from society, where they may do no harm. Its more fun that way. (David Eddings put it well with Enforced Miniature Island Goat Farming in the belgariad series)

    Oh and in the terms of religious texts, all the really big religions support the same god (im talking muslim/christian not bhuddist etc) As their texts are from the same country, just translated differently. They all include the same ammount of 'punishalbe by death' clauses for working sundays/ eating white meat/ contraception and so forth...

    Edited by Nova John, 05 October 2006 - 05:38 PM.



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