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#1 Nick

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Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:39 AM

This is one of my favorite songs at the moment. Kanye West's Never Let Me Down. This is some meaningful stuff boys and girls. Here's the lyrics.

Yeah Grandmamma
I told you I wasn't let you down
Oh baby
I told you I wasn't gonna let this rap game change me, Right
Just Listen--

--(Chorus)--
When it comes to being true
At least true to me
One thing I've found
One thing I've found
Oh no-you never let me down
Down
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)

First I snatched the streets
Then I snatch the charts
First I had their ear
Now I have their heart

Rappers came and went Ive Been Here From the start
I seen them put it together
Watched them take it apart

Seen the rovers roll up with ribbons
I've seen em re-poed, re-sold, and re-driven
So when I reload, we hold number 1 position
So when you hot, I'm hot
And when you feet cold, mines is sizzlin

And it's plain to see
CENSOREDs can't fuck with me
Cause Imma be that CENSORED for life
This is not an image
This is god given
This is hard livin

Mixed with Crystall sippin
The most consistent hov
Give you the most hits
You can fit inside a whole disk and

CENSORED I'm home on these charts
Ya'll CENSOREDs visitin
It's hov tradition, Jeff Gordon of rap
I'm back to claim pole position
Holla at ya boy

Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)

I get down for my grandfather
Who took my mamma
Made her sit in that seat
Where white folks aint want us to eat
At the tender age of 6
She was arrested for the sit-ins
And now with that in my blood
I was born to be different
Now CENSOREDs can't make it
To ballads to choose leadership
But we can make it
To Jacobs and to the dealership

Thats why I hear new music
And I just dont be feelin it
Racisim still alive
But they just be concealing it
But I know they dont want me in the damn club
They even made me show ID
To get inside the Sams Club

I done did dirt
And when to church
To get my hands scrubbed
That's why I been baptised
At least 3 or 4 times

But in the land where
CENSOREDs praise Yukons and gettin paid
Its gonna take alot more
Than coupons to get em saved
Like it take a lot more
Than Do-Rags to get you waves

Nothin as sad as the day
My girls father passed away
So I promised to Mr. Rainey
That I'm gonna marry your daughter

And you know I gotta thank you
For the way that she was brought up
And I know that you was smilin
When you seen the car I bought her

And you sent tears from heaven
When you seen my car got balled up
But I can't complain
What the acccident did to my left eye
Cause look what the accident did to Left-Eye
First Aaliyah, now Romeo must die
I know I got angels
Watchin me from the other side

--(Chorus)--
When it comes to being true
At least true to me
One thing I've found
One thing I've found
Oh no-you never let me down
Down
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)

--(Chorus)--
When it comes to being true
At least true to me
One thing I've found
One thing I've found
Oh no-you never let me down
Down
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)
Get up I get (down)

[J. Ivy]

We're all here for a reason on a particular path
You don't need a curriculum to know that you are part of the math
Cats think I'm delirious but I'm so damn serious
That's why I expose my soul to the globe, the world
I'm trying to make it better for these little boys and girls
I'm not just another individual
My spirit is a part of this, thats why I get spiritual
But I get my hymns from him
So it's not me it's he thats lyrical
I'm not a miracle
I'm a heaven-sent instrument
My rythmatic regiment navigates melodic notes for your soul and your mental
Thats why I'm instrumental
Vibrations is what I'm into
Yeah I need my loot by rent day
But that ain't what gives me the heart of Kunte Kinte
I'm tryin to give us, us free like Cinque
I can't stop
That's why I'm hot
Determination, dedication, motivation
I'm talking to you and my many inspirations
When I say I can't let you or myself down
If I were on the highest cliff on the highest riff
And you slipped off the side and clinched on to your life in my grip
I would never, ever, let you down
And when these words are found
Let it be known that god's penmanship has been signed in the language called love
Thats why my breath is felt by the deaf
And why my words are heard and confined to the ears of the blind
I, too, dream in color, and in rhyme
So I guess I'm one of a kind in a full house
Cause whenever I open my heart, my soul, or my mouth
A touch of
God.
Rains.
Out.

[Chorus]

[Jay-Z]

Who else you know been hot this long,
(Oh Ya, you know we ain't finished)
Started from nothing but he got this strong,
(The ROC is in the building)
Built the ROC from a pebble, pedalled rock before I met you,
Pedalled bikes, got my nephews pedal bikes because they special,
Let you tell that man I'm falling,
Well somebody must've caught him,
Cause every fourth quarter, I like to Mike Jordan them
Number one albums, what I got like four of them
More of them on the way,
The Eight Wonder on the way,
Clear the way, I'm here to stay,
Y'all can save the chitter chat, this and that, this and Jay,
Dissin' Jay will get you mased,
When I start spitting them lyrics, CENSOREDs get very religious,
Six Hail Maries, please Father forgive us,
Young, the Archbishop, the Pope John Paul of y'all CENSOREDs,
The way y'all all follow Jigga,
Hov's a living legend and I tell you why,
Everybody wanna be Hov and Hov still alive.

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    #2 shabba

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:47 AM

    Yeah ive listened to this before alot, its really good kanyes probably one of the only rapper i would actually listen to I used to listen to alot of it.

    He has alot of anger in his songs which is always noticable his albums amazing!

    #3 j0k3r210

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 02:11 PM

    come on kno jus kanye hes raw but theres others lupe fiasco, common, twista u kno what just EVERYBODY IN CHICAGO lol

    chi-town born and raised

    #4 Tormentedsoul14

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 05:36 PM

    I dont care what people say rap still means Retards Attempting Poetry.

    Sorry if I offended some of you. To me rap is just a way for people who talk fast and slur their words to get a lot of money. Most of the lyrics are just about sex and drugs. And todays youth thinks that since its popular its ok to listen to and be like brainwashed by it, well maybe not brainwashed but more influenced to do those things.

    My two cents.

    Here are some lyrics from In Flames - "Come Clarity"
    Rushing through 30
    Getting older every day
    By two
    Drawing pictures of innocent times
    Could you add colour inside these lines?

    I want you to lead me
    Take me somewhere
    Don't want to live
    In a dream one more day

    I want you to lead me
    Take me somewhere
    Don't want to live
    In a dream one more day

    Sure it would change my perspective
    I'm certain I would change today
    I'm certain it would change our ways
    Would things fall into place?

    Edited by Tormentedsoul14, 14 November 2006 - 05:41 PM.


    #5 Frizzle

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 05:59 PM

    Yea that's songs crap, bring on retard and poetry since you failed your point.

    #6 qwerty88

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 06:01 PM

    mainstream hiphop and rap is bad (for the most part. there are a few gems here and there)

    underground and indie hiphop and rap is good (asheru, gym class heroes, jedi mind tricks)

    my 2c

    Edited by qwerty88, 14 November 2006 - 06:01 PM.


    #7 Nick

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 06:10 PM

    QUOTE(Frizzle @ Nov 14 2006, 09:59 PM) View Post

    Yea that's songs crap, bring on retard and poetry since you failed your point.


    QFE

    QUOTE(qwerty88 @ Nov 14 2006, 10:01 PM) View Post

    underground and indie hiphop and rap is good (asheru, gym class heroes, jedi mind tricks)

    my 2c


    Lol, you clearly don't know the meaning of underground.
    Underground rappers are unknown city boys playing local gigs.
    Prototype in NYC. Went to my school. Kid's a beast.

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 06:16 PM

    QUOTE(Tormentedsoul14 @ Nov 14 2006, 06:36 PM) View Post

    I dont care what people say rap still means Retards Attempting Poetry.

    Sorry if I offended some of you. To me rap is just a way for people who talk fast and slur their words to get a lot of money. Most of the lyrics are just about sex and drugs. And todays youth thinks that since its popular its ok to listen to and be like brainwashed by it, well maybe not brainwashed but more influenced to do those things.

    My two cents.

    Here are some lyrics from In Flames - "Come Clarity"
    Rushing through 30
    Getting older every day
    By two
    Drawing pictures of innocent times
    Could you add colour inside these lines?

    I want you to lead me
    Take me somewhere
    Don't want to live
    In a dream one more day

    I want you to lead me
    Take me somewhere
    Don't want to live
    In a dream one more day

    Sure it would change my perspective
    I'm certain I would change today
    I'm certain it would change our ways
    Would things fall into place?

    All of today's youth? Hell no.
    Have you even listened to most rap lately? Hardly anyone talks fast now. All MAINSTREAM (MAINSTREAM!!!!) Rap is mostly about that, listen to older rap, which is never played on mainstream anymore.
    And like Lee said, that songs crap, you failed your point.

    QUOTE(Frizzle @ Nov 14 2006, 06:59 PM) View Post

    Yea that's songs crap, bring on retard and poetry since you failed your point.

    SUPER QFE

    #9 nox

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:15 PM

    QUOTE(Urban @ Nov 14 2006, 10:10 PM) View Post

    QFE
    Lol, you clearly don't know the meaning of underground.
    Underground rappers are unknown city boys playing local gigs.
    Prototype in NYC. Went to my school. Kid's a beast.

    nah man that isn't underground rap, its a stupid term anywyas, since people classify anything not on MTV that's somewhat good to be "underground". kinda ticks me off since most people just say "oh i listen to underground rap" to prove that they are somewhat different...unique..whatever.

    guess what happens when one of these underground rappers are half decent&get a fan base? they aren't underground anymore! isn't that something rolleyes.gif

    #10 j0k3r210

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:15 PM

    ok my whole take on this is listen to what you listen to and if you dont like other kinds of music then dont listen to it and if you even think about bitchin take ur fist and shove it up ur as...mouth before even talking

    #11 nox

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:17 PM

    QUOTE(Tormentedsoul14 @ Nov 14 2006, 09:36 PM) View Post
    Most of the lyrics are just about sex and drugs.

    LOL? and what do you think rock is about?

    #12 qwerty88

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:20 PM

    QUOTE(Urban @ Nov 14 2006, 06:10 PM) View Post

    Lol, you clearly don't know the meaning of underground.


    True, but I wasn't calling gym class heroes underground if that's what you're referring to.

    I think I have underground confused with bands that aren't mainstream. My bad.

    #13 Bryan

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:23 PM

    All songs have meaning. Some are just "deeper" than others.

    Some write lyrics to vent, others make others write lyrics to make money.

    It's like comparing Dr. Seuss to Ralph Waldo Emerson. They both fall under the same category, but their works are meant for different audiences with different meanings.

    QUOTE(qwerty88 @ Nov 14 2006, 08:20 PM) View Post

    True, but I wasn't calling gym class heroes underground if that's what you're referring to.

    I think I have underground confused with bands that aren't mainstream. My bad.

    If you've heard of a band, chances are it's mainstream. Underground, pssh, there's no such thing anymore.


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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:26 PM

    QUOTE(qwerty88 @ Nov 14 2006, 11:20 PM) View Post

    True, but I wasn't calling gym class heroes underground if that's what you're referring to.

    I think I have underground confused with bands that aren't mainstream. My bad.

    it's sort of correct, it's mainly just a stupid hype that gets teens excited, but if anything it's just more controversial, maybe a bit deeper. a lot of the time these people get famous and then eventually make one catchy commercialized song & then become mainstream tongue.gif

    #15 Ilya

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:34 PM

    I think it was prooven before that rap does make sense.... tongue.gif

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 07:59 PM

    I was arguing for the sake of people who have to put with the select "emo scene kids" who are like, "go slayer and panic at the disco! rap is sooo bad, eww."

    Rap has more meaning then half the crap that those emo fucks listen to. I'm sorry, but do you get the message that I think emo kids are pathetic?

    #17 Guest_Energizer_*

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    Posted 14 November 2006 - 10:45 PM

    Nvm removed sorry!! Hah! Raui can't read it now

    Edited by Energizer, 14 November 2006 - 10:51 PM.


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    Posted 15 November 2006 - 12:49 PM

    QUOTE(Urban @ Nov 14 2006, 07:59 PM) View Post

    I was arguing for the sake of people who have to put with the select "emo scene kids" who are like, "go slayer and panic at the disco! rap is sooo bad, eww."

    Rap has more meaning then half the crap that those emo fucks listen to. I'm sorry, but do you get the message that I think emo kids are pathetic?



    I know some emo kids that listen to rap wink.gif and after that comment i think you are pathetic.

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    Posted 16 November 2006 - 04:20 AM

    QUOTE(cooldude @ Nov 16 2006, 08:49 AM) View Post

    I know some emo kids that listen to rap wink.gif and after that comment i think you are pathetic.


    Im Scene

    Im codex's Scene Kid

    i listen to rap =\

    Jurrasic 5 \ Delinquent habits \ Lupe fiasco
    Mostly lay'd back rap

    Oh and "Emo" isnt a type of person
    It's a type of music

    If your calling somone an "Emo", Then the proper word's Scene

    #20 Frizzle

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    Posted 16 November 2006 - 07:15 AM

    No it isn't, it's emo.

    He's an emo, she's an emo etc..

    get it right next time.

    #21 otherworld

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    Posted 16 November 2006 - 08:07 AM

    i dont see how people manage to argue about music all the time

    i like heavy metal and stuff but i dont go around telling other people their music is crap. people have preferences which you should accept.

    but whoever said slayer is emo should be shot
    and i dont think any music has more meaning than another type of music (with the exception of dance and that stuff)



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    Posted 16 November 2006 - 12:55 PM

    sdif8dsjfdsn nvm

    Edited by nox, 16 November 2006 - 12:55 PM.



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