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[Ives]

No, my life doesnt suck (to the contrary, life is treating me well right now.) Its more on a clinical note. I've tried SSRIs, and I want to kill myself/and or other people. I've tried 5-HTP and it just didnt work for me. And ive tried st. johns wort twice, but i didnt like it. what are some other alts to the ssris?

[sonic]

I would try killing a hobo.....
Not Mr.Hobo, I mean a random bum that you see.
Then see if the feeling goes away. If not, then hey, you can say you have killed someone.....

[nox]

http://www.neocodex....o...c=68210&hl=

coincidence? i think not

[Ives]

http://www.neocodex....o...c=68210&hl=

coincidence? i think not

I dont juice, lol. And even if i was, i wouldnt be juicing so badly that when i end a cycle i want to kill myself. Ive had clinical depression long before an interest in bodybuilding anyways.

I would try killing a hobo.....
Not Mr.Hobo, I mean a random bum that you see.
Then see if the feeling goes away. If not, then hey, you can say you have killed someone.....

Id rather pull a cho seung hui. you know, a bunch of incoherent videos, then killing 32 people for the sake of getting don imus off the news.

Edited by Athean, 12 May 2007 - 07:35 PM.

[nox]

you should pull the whole pennies on their eyes after killing them, maybe that'd help the boondock saints get their sequel

[Melchoire]

Id rather pull a cho seung hui. you know, a bunch of incoherent videos, then killing 32 people for the sake of getting don imus off the news.

lmao

[Ives]

16 Users and 5 responses? lol

[Melchoire]

16 Users and 5 responses? lol

Ya it pisses me off too >_<

[Warlord]

No, my life doesnt suck (to the contrary, life is treating me well right now.) Its more on a clinical note. I've tried SSRIs, and I want to kill myself/and or other people. I've tried 5-HTP and it just didnt work for me. And ive tried st. johns wort twice, but i didnt like it. what are some other alts to the ssris?

I dunno, but if you find a solution lemme know.

[Alex]

16 Users and 5 responses? lol

Well I doubt many people have a clew about what you're talking about
I don't xD ....SRRI..5-HTP...St.John...

Just find something that you like doing and that relaxes you. That usually gets me off depressed.

[Mr. Hobo]

Ya it pisses me off too >_<

Cody's post is probably all you need. And maybe me suggesting to talk to a professional

Hell, only reason I'm posting here is to call Sonic a nobster

[Enzo]

Well I doubt many people have a clew about what you're talking about
I don't xD ....SRRI..5-HTP...St.John...

Just find something that you like doing and that relaxes you. That usually gets me off depressed.

yeah im kinda lost.... sounds like a good idea though so I bump this idea

[fruglemonkey]

Try listening to something by the flaming lips, especially their album 'the soft bulletin'

It's kinda like condensed happy put into music form.

That, and you could try eating chocolate or drinking coffee, as both release endorphins in the blood.

And, about depression: What are you depressed about? How life has no meaning, you suffer so much, and for what? you die? you go to hell?

Well, if you have no motivation for anything... I hope you don't mind me asking, or anything, but what makes you able to actually pull through your life?

Edited by fruglemonkey, 13 May 2007 - 02:36 AM.

[Ives]

Well I doubt many people have a clew about what you're talking about
I don't xD ....SRRI..5-HTP...St.John...

Just find something that you like doing and that relaxes you. That usually gets me off depressed.

Clinical....yeah, its hard for me to relax and listen to some music. I have severe stuff right now, but its alright, all i needed was codys response. lol.

[Jake]

Before killing anyone, I recommend robbing a bank or something. Either way your screwed. Anyways if your going insane, check out the nearest Insane Asylum near you.

[Shadowcode]

How about you do something sane. DO NOT rob a bank...or kill a bum....
Get professional help, not help here, which would ultimately lead you to about 10 - 20 years in prison.

Cody's post was the most reasonable one, which you may want to look into.

[Christopher Robin]

Well I doubt many people have a clew about what you're talking about
I don't xD ....SRRI..5-HTP...St.John...

Just find something that you like doing and that relaxes you. That usually gets me off depressed.

SSRI = antidepressant of some sort, I think... 5-HTP I believe is Potassium? And St. Johns Wort is a weed that grows wild, and you can make an antidepressant tea out of it.

[foogie]

I've had good luck with paxil and effexor XR, though now studies have been coming out that these drugs don't work with the young folk.


meh, if you don't believe it will work, then it won't.

[Alex]

lol... SSRI stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, and yes, most anti-depressants are SSRI's or SNRI's. 5-HTP is 5-hydroxy-l-tryptophan and is the last precursor in the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin. The only real difference in 5-HTP and SSRI's is the mechanism in which they act. SSRI's stop the serotonin from being taken up, thus leaving it "freely floating" longer, while 5-HTP, basically, forms into new serotonin which will leave you with more pre-synaptic serotonin "roaming" about. The reason I disapprove of SSRI's is that once you quit taking SSRI's or if you take them sporadically you will be more depressed than before as all that serotonin is taken up at once as there is no longer anything stopping it... leaving you to feel incredibly shitty. Serotonin is responsible for your sleep, appetite, general mood, feelings of happiness, sadness, depression, and sexual desire along with a slew of other things.

l-tyrosine will eventually be converted into dopamine, which is the chemical in which is responsible for your pleasure and your reward system. St. John's Wort is a plant in which is basically used as an herbal remedy for practically anything (although I personally think it's a crock.. to each their own.)

I hope I explained everything okay, it's late and I'm out of it.

As a side note, I'd like to add that I'm INCREDIBLY depressed in the clinical sense today and recently, really. I really should see a doctor, but I know they'll only attempt to put me on SSRI's... and I don't do SSRI's...

(As a side note, serotonin is also know as 5-HT or 5-hydroxytryptamine... the tryptamine backbone may be familiar to those of you with experience with drugs like dimethyltryptamine or 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine (DMT and 4-HO-DMT/psilocin; respectively)

man you'll make a great pharmacist if you still want to go that path

[Rush]

lol... SSRI stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, and yes, most anti-depressants are SSRI's or SNRI's. 5-HTP is 5-hydroxy-l-tryptophan and is the last precursor in the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin. The only real difference in 5-HTP and SSRI's is the mechanism in which they act. SSRI's stop the serotonin from being taken up, thus leaving it "freely floating" longer, while 5-HTP, basically, forms into new serotonin which will leave you with more pre-synaptic serotonin "roaming" about. The reason I disapprove of SSRI's is that once you quit taking SSRI's or if you take them sporadically you will be more depressed than before as all that serotonin is taken up at once as there is no longer anything stopping it... leaving you to feel incredibly shitty. Serotonin is responsible for your sleep, appetite, general mood, feelings of happiness, sadness, depression, and sexual desire along with a slew of other things.

l-tyrosine will eventually be converted into dopamine, which is the chemical in which is responsible for your pleasure and your reward system. St. John's Wort is a plant in which is basically used as an herbal remedy for practically anything (although I personally think it's a crock.. to each their own.)

I hope I explained everything okay, it's late and I'm out of it.

As a side note, I'd like to add that I'm INCREDIBLY depressed in the clinical sense today and recently, really. I really should see a doctor, but I know they'll only attempt to put me on SSRI's... and I don't do SSRI's...

(As a side note, serotonin is also know as 5-HT or 5-hydroxytryptamine... the tryptamine backbone may be familiar to those of you with experience with drugs like dimethyltryptamine or 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine (DMT and 4-HO-DMT/psilocin; respectively)

Wow, I wanna attain your knowledge.

And:

man you'll make a great pharmacist if you still want to go that path

[Christopher Robin]

lol... SSRI stands for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor, and yes, most anti-depressants are SSRI's or SNRI's. 5-HTP is 5-hydroxy-l-tryptophan and is the last precursor in the conversion of tryptophan into serotonin. The only real difference in 5-HTP and SSRI's is the mechanism in which they act. SSRI's stop the serotonin from being taken up, thus leaving it "freely floating" longer, while 5-HTP, basically, forms into new serotonin which will leave you with more pre-synaptic serotonin "roaming" about. The reason I disapprove of SSRI's is that once you quit taking SSRI's or if you take them sporadically you will be more depressed than before as all that serotonin is taken up at once as there is no longer anything stopping it... leaving you to feel incredibly shitty. Serotonin is responsible for your sleep, appetite, general mood, feelings of happiness, sadness, depression, and sexual desire along with a slew of other things.

l-tyrosine will eventually be converted into dopamine, which is the chemical in which is responsible for your pleasure and your reward system. St. John's Wort is a plant in which is basically used as an herbal remedy for practically anything (although I personally think it's a crock.. to each their own.)

I hope I explained everything okay, it's late and I'm out of it.

As a side note, I'd like to add that I'm INCREDIBLY depressed in the clinical sense today and recently, really. I really should see a doctor, but I know they'll only attempt to put me on SSRI's... and I don't do SSRI's...

(As a side note, serotonin is also know as 5-HT or 5-hydroxytryptamine... the tryptamine backbone may be familiar to those of you with experience with drugs like dimethyltryptamine or 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine (DMT and 4-HO-DMT/psilocin; respectively)

So... These SSRIs are in the same way of working as ecstasy, in a way? And 5-HTP... I thought that was in Bananas, like Potassium? And er... whoa.

[mattyrupp]

So... These SSRIs are in the same way of working as ecstasy, in a way? And 5-HTP... I thought that was in Bananas, like Potassium? And er... whoa.

The only real similarity between the inhibition of the uptake of serotonin. Ecstasy also effects the uptake of dopamine and also effects other parts of the brain such as the hypothalamus, which is why people who use ecstasy are generally thirsty and hot. The hypothalamus is the control center for things such as thirst and thermoregulation. These are only a few of the side effects of ecstasy. So if you are thinking ecstasy would be a good replacement for real anti-depressants, I wouldn't recommend it.

[sonic]

Cody's post is probably all you need. And maybe me suggesting to talk to a professional

Hell, only reason I'm posting here is to call Sonic a nobster

grrrrrrrrr.
I will get you one day hobo.......lol

[Christopher Robin]

The only real similarity between the inhibition of the uptake of serotonin. Ecstasy also effects the uptake of dopamine and also effects other parts of the brain such as the hypothalamus, which is why people who use ecstasy are generally thirsty and hot. The hypothalamus is the control center for things such as thirst and thermoregulation. These are only a few of the side effects of ecstasy. So if you are thinking ecstasy would be a good replacement for real anti-depressants, I wouldn't recommend it.

Er... never HAVE done ecstasy... and by similar, I meant target the same system... And you typed that up like an English Exam answer

[Ives]

I is better...5-HTP works, though i wonder if i can smoke weed with this stuff in my system...i think so since thc isnt affecting the serotnoin really.