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[iargue]

Sure, its easy to not care right now, try almost dieing and saying that.

Right now, you dont even think of death that much, you go about laugh with your friends, go to school/work. The thing is, right now you consider death as something distant, but when death comes, you wont want it. Why do you think pointing a gun at someone is effective, if you didnt care if god existed, then that would be you would be like so what. Becasue, then there would be no doubt that you would die, as you have nothing to watch over you. When you dead, you would be a simple rotting nothing in a crate, and that all that you life has come down to. So what would be the point of waking up? What would be the point of even living, there is nothing that will save you from this fate. Except, god, he is the only choice out of being snuffed out of existence in one second. There are way over a million ways to die, and no matter how hard you try, you will die. So, why not believe that you will go to heaven, give yourself confidence and a reason to live. If you do believe and he does exist, then you spend eternity in the bliss that EVERYONE seeks. If He doesn't, then you die believing that your going to a better place, and you do freak out and panic, your last minutes of life would be 50 times better because of this, you wouldn't be in a living hell (so to speak). Not like your going to remember anything, or know that your wrong.

[Sweeney]

Sure, its easy to not care right now, try almost dieing and saying that.

Right now, you dont even think of death that much, you go about laugh with your friends, go to school/work. The thing is, right now you consider death as something distant, but when death comes, you wont want it. Why do you think pointing a gun at someone is effective, if you didnt care if god existed, then that would be you would be like so what. Becasue, then there would be no doubt that you would die, as you have nothing to watch over you. When you dead, you would be a simple rotting nothing in a crate, and that all that you life has come down to. So what would be the point of waking up? What would be the point of even living, there is nothing that will save you from this fate. Except, god, he is the only choice out of being snuffed out of existence in one second. There are way over a million ways to die, and no matter how hard you try, you will die. So, why not believe that you will go to heaven, give yourself confidence and a reason to live. If you do believe and he does exist, then you spend eternity in the bliss that EVERYONE seeks. If He doesn't, then you die believing that your going to a better place, and you do freak out and panic, your last minutes of life would be 50 times better because of this, you wouldn't be in a living hell (so to speak). Not like your going to remember anything, or know that your wrong.

That's bullshit.
I -have- died. I'm quite content not believing in God.
In my eyes, the point of being alive is the influence that you will have on those who come after.

[iargue]

That's bullshit.
I -have- died. I'm quite content not believing in God.
In my eyes, the point of being alive is the influence that you will have on those who come after.

How can you call bullshit, when you say you Died?????? YOU CANT BE ALIVE AND barkING HAVE DIED.

[Sweeney]

How can you call bullshit, when you say you Died?????? YOU CANT BE ALIVE AND barkING HAVE DIED.

Oh. I guess they never invented rescussitation where you live, then. That must suck.

[Ives]

How can you call bullshit, when you say you Died?????? YOU CANT BE ALIVE AND barkING HAVE DIED.

clinically dead. Maybe if you researched about it for more than a minute, youd find results discussing different types of deaths.

[iargue]

clinically dead. Maybe if you researched about it for more than a minute, youd find results discussing different types of deaths.

Being, clinically dead is not a form of death.

At the onset of clinical death, consciousness is lost within several seconds. Measurable brain activity stops within 20 to 40 seconds.[2] Irregular gasping may occur during this early time period, and is sometimes mistaken by rescuers as a sign that CPR is not necessary.[3] During clinical death, all tissues and organs in the body steadily accumulate a type of injury called ischemic injury.

Being clinically dead is not being dead, You are still alive.

Death is the permanent end of the life of a biological organism.

Edited by Elfonso, 05 June 2007 - 02:48 PM.

[Sweeney]

Being clinically dead is not a form of being dead?

[Tetiel]

Awwww... poor Joe didn't get an opporitunity to feel the DMT high of a near death experience.

[iargue]

Being clinically dead is not a form of being dead?

No, just because it has dead in it, does not make it death.

[Sweeney]

No, just because it has dead in it, does not make it death.

Forgive me, but I believe I was the one that was there, yes?

[Sweeney]

Hmph, well, anyway.
My point was, that I have experienced death, and I still do not fear it, nor do I need God to hold my hand and justify my existence. I justify my own existence.

[iargue]

I think death to him is where you cannot be brought back. Coming to a stage where you are clincally dead, but are still able to be brought back, wouldn't justify as death, whereas if you got shot in the head with a bullet and the ambulance declared you DOA, that would be death.

Thats why the definition of death is

Death is the permanent end of the life of a biological organism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death

[Sweeney]

Can I quote that?

You have
And yes, why not?

And Elfonso, that is a definition of death. Which your outlook certainly does not adhere to, because according to you, there is life after death.

[ToxicS]

He doesn't even exist, so there! /athiest (really)

Edited by Toxic-Snipe, 05 June 2007 - 05:03 PM.

[iargue]

You have
And yes, why not?

And Elfonso, that is a definition of death. Which your outlook certainly does not adhere to, because according to you, there is life after death.

No, not biological life, a life of the soul, spiritual not biological. Do you even read what a type or just instantly try and say I'm wrong?

[Ned]

Why attribute the credits for your success on a God? Why not that of your parents or yourself? Life is what you make of it, and despite what you read in an ancient book, there very well may not be life after death - so make the most out of your life and make it good.

That pretty much sums up how I feel about this topic.