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#1 .xx.paige.xx.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:45 AM

hey there
hows everyone?
im very bored and tired but yea
im redaing this thing and yea it mayb a shock to most people who know me
coz they know i dont read much but i can read so dont worry i just find it very boring
anwayz back to what i was talking bout
its this book about your mind and stuffand about self discovery pfft!
it says in here " YOUR BRAIN IS AN AMAZING COMPUTER!"
i mean wtf?
coz 1. im not a robot 2. im not a computer and 3. im not pluged in and powerd by a wall
and batteries

but yea so does anyone know anything about it so i wont have to keep reading
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    #2 Raui

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:53 AM

    LOL Babe you never stop making me laugh tongue.gif Although I don't read books sounds interesting. Comparing your brain to a computer is just silly because your brain is alot more complex lol.

    #3 Stephen

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:39 AM

    ah, raui, this is the one is it? wink.gif

    Edited by xBullet/Stephen, 27 June 2007 - 01:39 AM.


    #4 fruglemonkey

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 02:41 AM

    ...
    Actually, computers have outclassed brain power in terms of raw power. However, the brain has millions of neurons working in parallel, and so can process stuff faster...

    #5 Bão

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:09 AM

    QUOTE(.xx. paige loves raui .xx. @ Jun 27 2007, 03:45 AM) View Post
    3. im not pluged in and powerd by a wall and batteries

    You mean, you're not plugged into a wall or powered by batteries? blink.gif

    Edited by Bão, 27 June 2007 - 03:09 AM.


    #6 Christopher Robin

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:40 AM

    QUOTE(Bão @ Jun 27 2007, 07:39 AM) View Post
    You mean, you're not plugged into a wall or powered by batteries? blink.gif

    What a loser, eh? God... must be one of them new solar-powered people...


    QUOTE(fruglemonkey @ Jun 27 2007, 07:11 AM) View Post
    ...
    Actually, computers have outclassed brain power in terms of raw power. However, the brain has millions of neurons working in parallel, and so can process stuff faster...

    blink.gif Sooooo... the brain is faster? dry.gif Who cares. Brains can do shit loads more than computers can.

    #7 foogie

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:47 AM

    well, pretty vague description... a name of the book would probably help more.

    brains are only like computers in that they're easy for coming up with naughty things. D:<

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:40 PM

    your brain is what controls you.


    #9 Bão

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:01 PM

    QUOTE(Eric @ Jun 27 2007, 05:40 PM) View Post
    your brain is what controls you.

    Some would argue that your brain controls you to an extent. What about the heart?

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:07 PM

    QUOTE(Bão @ Jun 27 2007, 04:01 PM) View Post
    Some would argue that your brain controls you to an extent. What about the heart?

    Controlled/Powered by the brain?

    #11 Bão

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:28 PM

    QUOTE(Eric @ Jun 27 2007, 06:07 PM) View Post
    Controlled/Powered by the brain?

    Biologically, everything is controlled by our brain, but I said "some would argue" as there are spiritual people who would believe otherwise. One without heart would be inhuman for they are without emotion, love, and instinct. Metaphorically that is. They would merely be a robot in a society of ours.

    #12 Fatal

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:38 PM

    QUOTE(Bão @ Jun 27 2007, 03:28 PM) View Post
    Biologically, everything is controlled by our brain, but I said "some would argue" as there are spiritual people who would believe otherwise. One without heart would be inhuman for they are without emotion, love, and instinct. Metaphorically that is. They would merely be a robot in a society of ours.

    ya,but arent emotions from the brain?

    #13 Christopher Robin

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:38 PM

    QUOTE(Bão @ Jun 27 2007, 07:58 PM) View Post
    Biologically, everything is controlled by our brain, but I said "some would argue" as there are spiritual people who would believe otherwise. One without heart would be inhuman for they are without emotion, love, and instinct. Metaphorically that is. They would merely be a robot in a society of ours.

    Maybe... we should give em a PACEMAKER ohmy.gif Along with a fake heart, of course... THEN could they not be robots? Cause noone likes robots sad.gif

    #14 Bão

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    Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:48 PM

    QUOTE(Fatal @ Jun 27 2007, 07:38 PM) View Post
    ya,but arent emotions from the brain?

    Yes, but there are religions that believe the heart controls the soul, self, life, person, mind, desire, emotion, and passion; by all means, I'm not that religious, but I've read what people really believe controls them.

    QUOTE(Pomroy @ Jun 27 2007, 07:38 PM) View Post
    Maybe... we should give em a PACEMAKER ohmy.gif Along with a fake heart, of course... THEN could they not be robots? Cause noone likes robots sad.gif

    I like robots. biggrin.gif You can make them sing and dance.

    #15 fruglemonkey

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    Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:08 AM

    Okay, this is going back to one of my philosophical questions with no answers...

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    What is it that defines humanity and human beings?? Is it our perceived sense of soul, or heart? Is it our ability to feel, to care, or hate? Is it the fact that we are homo-sapiens? Is it the fact that our body and mind are one whole being? What defines a human?

    What if, for example, a man called Robb were to have a bionic leg? Would Robb still be a human? Sure it still does the same job, does what you tell it to. But, what if Robb had two bionic legs? Carbon fibre bones? plastic heart? Artificial newrons? At what point, do we stop being human? How do we draw the line? What if, Robb had a serious accident, and their whole body had to be replaced, but the mind was intact? Would that person still be human, even though they had a completly robotic body?

    Now, go into the future. Many years into the future, where it is possible to, say, grow dolphin fins and live like a dolphin for a week. Where it is possible to access the internet using only the power of your mind, and upload direct video from your eyes. Where it is possible to become fully mechanised. In fact, many people have done so, in order to prolong their lives, or to survive critical injury.

    In this future world, there are is also perfect artificial intelligence. Now, what if, there was an artifical intelligence that was brought up like a human? It thinks it is human, for it believes it was seriously injured at a young age. It thinks just like a human too, it has thoughts like us, emotions, too. Now, if you were to put this AI(Artificial intelligence for you idiots) next to Robb, how would you be able to tell which one was human or not? You wouldn't. So, after all this, in the future, will we still be human?

    #16 arthritis

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:55 AM

    i've heard that oh so many times.

    #17 Sweeney

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 09:23 AM

    Raui blink.gif

    #18 Tsunade

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 11:41 AM

    QUOTE(Eric @ Jun 28 2007, 12:07 AM) View Post
    Controlled/Powered by the brain?



    QUOTE(Bão @ Jun 28 2007, 12:28 AM) View Post
    Biologically, everything is controlled by our brain, but I said "some would argue" as there are spiritual people who would believe otherwise. One without heart would be inhuman for they are without emotion, love, and instinct. Metaphorically that is. They would merely be a robot in a society of ours.



    Heart is a myogenic muscle I beleive, A myogenic muscle doesn't need to receive impulses from a nerve to make it contract. So the heart isn't controlled by the brain I dont think smile.gif, However the Hypothalamus controls the amount of beats the heart takes per minute with different neurotransmitters, so I guess that it is controlled by the brain but can act independantly of.

    #19 Frizzle

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 12:43 PM

    Raui, what the bark? Did you drug her or something?

    So..filters gone I see..

    Edited by Frizzle, 29 June 2007 - 12:43 PM.


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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 12:50 PM

    QUOTE(foogie @ Jun 27 2007, 06:47 AM) View Post
    brains are only like computers in that they're easy for coming up with naughty things. D:<

    That's one way to look at it tongue.gif

    #21 Tsunade

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 01:29 PM

    QUOTE(Josh @ Jun 29 2007, 10:24 PM) View Post
    I don't think the brain controls your pituitary gland, which is the master gland that controls hormones and helps you grow etc. etc.



    I thought that the pituitary was part of the brain?

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 01:30 PM

    QUOTE(Pomroy / Trixx @ Jun 27 2007, 07:40 AM) View Post
    What a loser, eh? God... must be one of them new solar-powered people...

    At least hes environmentally friendly smile.gif

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 02:35 PM

    QUOTE(Tsunade @ Jun 29 2007, 07:41 PM) View Post
    Heart is a myogenic muscle I beleive, A myogenic muscle doesn't need to receive impulses from a nerve to make it contract. So the heart isn't controlled by the brain I dont think smile.gif, However the Hypothalamus controls the amount of beats the heart takes per minute with different neurotransmitters, so I guess that it is controlled by the brain but can act independantly of.

    The heart beats because it is stimulated by a small centre of myogenic cells, yes.
    It is modulated directly by the brain, though... so without nervous control, the natural beat of the heart would be insufficient to keep you alive.

    And also, the pituitary isn't part of the brain, it dangles just below it.
    It is directly hardwired into the hypothalamus though, and is completely dependent on the brain for modulation.

    #24 Tsunade

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 03:00 PM

    *feels upstaged by the biology genius*




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