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Have any of you seen Zeitgeist (the documentary)?


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#1 Master Control Program

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:34 PM

Have any of you seen or even heard of this documentary? I just finished watching and it is truly eye-opening! Perhaps it is just my inner conspiracy theorist, but the information seems very interesting. However, the way it is presented also makes it look plausible. While I am sure there will be controversy over the reliability of this information, in addition to the topics they discuss (religion and 9/11 are both very tender topics for most people), I hope all of you view it with an open mind (a.k.a. leave your religious/political views at the door) and simply absorb and reflect on the information presented.

Here is the link to the website and source list, in addition to the entire video:

- http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
- http://www.zeitgeist...com/sources.htm
- http://video.google....5...15331&hl=en (via Google Video)

I hope you find this as interesting as I did!

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    #2 foogie

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    Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:46 PM

    the video sounds interesting. who doesn't love to hear about crazy people's ideas?

    I'll watch it later when i get back from class.

    #3 Noitidart

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    Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:48 PM

    ideas are always so fun and how they prove themselves makes it sound so true but you gotta figure out things with facts no subjective stuff from people

    #4 arthritis

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 07:07 PM

    hmm, i think i'm going to catch it soon!

    #5 Hawk

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 10:24 PM

    QUOTE(Josh @ Jun 28 2007, 09:49 PM) View Post
    I got through about the first 30 minutes. It's interesting to say the least, my only problem being the guy didn't exactly know what he was talking about on some issues. For instance one of his arguments was discussing three stars and the three kings that visited Jesus, the Bible NEVER states how many kings actually visited Jesus, so to say three kings visited Jesus is using a common misconception, which he seems to use a lot in the video. I'll try to watch the rest later, but I don't know if I can take anymore dry.gif

    Well, it doesn't get Josh's seal of approval, so its not good enough for me wink.gif

    #6 Neo

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 10:36 PM

    Oh Neo does like a good conspiracy! I watch these kind of videos all the time, so I'll have to check them out after the 100 post day is over wink.gif

    ( Oh btw ThE MoON lAnDings NevRE HappENEed!11!!one!!1!) tongue.gif


    EDIT: 1900

    Edited by Neo/Kai, 29 June 2007 - 10:37 PM.


    #7 Hawk

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 10:57 PM

    QUOTE(Neo/Kai @ Jun 30 2007, 12:36 AM) View Post
    ( Oh btw ThE MoON lAnDings NevRE HappENEed!11!!one!!1!) tongue.gif

    Okay, give me proof that it never happened and I'll debunk it.

    #8 Tetiel

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    Posted 29 June 2007 - 11:57 PM

    Right... I am in no way going to believe this crap. First of all he puts in all these "similarities" to other gods and with the birthdates being december 25th... uhh... hello? Learn your history. Jesus probably wasn't born then and Christmas changed to that date to appeal to the pagans in europe. And like Alias said... umm... yeah... not 3 magi proven. Also the word "virgin" actually used to mean young female. And also while I see his reference list he does not state what parts he used so it would be almost impossible to look them up. All those Gods being so similar to Jesus.... I looked them up and I didn't see all the similarities he was talking about at ALL. Yeah I'm disgusted. I'm still watching it though.

    #9 Hawk

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:02 AM

    QUOTE(Josh @ Jun 30 2007, 02:00 AM) View Post
    My dad is a professional photographer and it's already been proven by using the photography of the video that it is virtually impossible to have done it in a studio. It's not even a debate anymore xD

    Normally they bring up the blast crater on the moon from having to lift off that is MIA. I would then say "Have you not seen the pictures of them stepping onto the moon? There is a thin layer of dust and underneath that is solid rock." I also have some good links for dealing with the photographs.... Or at least I did at one point in time.

    #10 RandomNameIgnoreIt

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:29 AM

    Zeitgeist is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Ever. Wow.

    ...Wow.

    The fact that there are people out there that buy things like this frightens me.

    #11 Hawk

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:36 AM

    QUOTE(BrknPhoenix @ Jun 30 2007, 02:29 AM) View Post
    Zeitgeist is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Ever. Wow.

    ...Wow.

    The fact that there are people out there that buy things like this frightens me.

    The people that worship Paris Hilton frighten me more. I don't give a damn if she got a trip in the back of a police car, or spent a while in jail. I don't care what she did at a party, or how she acted in public. I don't care what that scrawny, anorexic bitch does. dry.gif And I hate how she gets so much air time.

    #12 Neo

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:37 AM

    QUOTE(Hawk @ Jun 30 2007, 07:57 AM) View Post
    Okay, give me proof that it never happened and I'll debunk it.


    Oh lol, I was joking, I just like reading different conspiracy's to see how interesting their theory can be, and how even sometimes with the truth so blinding their face, they'll never believe anything but their theory. But its still healthy to question things.

    Edited by Neo/Kai, 30 June 2007 - 12:38 AM.


    #13 Tetiel

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:41 AM

    omfg... now it's saying that the london bombings were fake. Great.

    #14 RandomNameIgnoreIt

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:57 AM

    This just in, it turns out all of the conspiracies revealed by movies like 'Loose Change' and 'Zeitgeist' have been proven true! Though one of the strongest arguments against the theories, aside from science and common sense, was the fact that there was absolutely no reasonable motive or anything to gain from any of the named conspiracies, it now turns out that we've found a suspect that who would do just that!

    Here's a photo of the evildoer:



    Yes, comicbook supervillain Doctor Doom is the one man who is purely evil enough and smart enough to be able to silence the thousands involved in the heinous plots and carry them out with absolutely no logic or reason except to be evil! I guess those folks at Loose Change were right all along. First he tried to kill Captain America, and now he's trying to ruin America. It all comes together friends, it all comes together.

    #15 Tetiel

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 12:57 AM

    Rofl... the fed reserve is teh evil! OMG I SEE THE LIGHT NOW! JP MORGAN MUST DIIIIIIIIIE!! ...oh wait... he is dead. WE ARE ALL SLAVES TO THE FEEEEEEEED

    #16 Neo

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 01:11 AM

    QUOTE(Tetiel @ Jun 30 2007, 09:41 AM) View Post
    omfg... now it's saying that the london bombings were fake. Great.


    It is?! angry.gif Now I'm glad I didn't watch it because that really pisses me off.

    And thank God that the bomb in London was diffused yesterday.

    #17 Tetiel

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 01:21 AM

    QUOTE(Neo/Kai @ Jun 30 2007, 04:11 AM) View Post
    It is?! angry.gif Now I'm glad I didn't watch it because that really pisses me off.

    And thank God that the bomb in London was diffused yesterday.

    *sigh* I know, I really completely understand. I mean I think in England it might be even more close to home because well relatively... England is much smaller than America. You're closer to the attack than most Americans were I think. And while many many Americans including myself felt much pain on the day of our attacks it's hard when the target is 3000 miles away to feel true impact. With you guys... much much closer to home even on the other side of the country :\ I mean the video person makes the point of people stating blasphemy and things when defending their religion or government however in a lot of cases I think it's well justified. If I were in London and someone tried to tell me that the London bombings were a sham especially since I probably knew people that were around the incident (if I myself weren't there) I would be very insulted. But you know these things will always be here... people used to claim that the Pearl Harbor attacks were fake all the damn time back in the day so my dad says.

    #18 fruglemonkey

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 05:31 AM

    Wow, what'll it say next? The bermuda triangle is really a square?

    This is complete bullshit, in my opinion.

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 10:05 AM

    I watched it yesterday. It was definately...interesting tongue.gif I can't say I agree with most of the stuff though. But oh well. Different people, different opinions tongue.gif

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    Posted 30 June 2007 - 10:21 PM

    QUOTE(Josh @ Jun 30 2007, 12:07 PM) View Post
    Probably did say that laugh.gif

    No, its in the shape of a pentagon.... The Government has a building shaped like a pentagon, there must be some correlation! The Government is causing the disappearances in the Bermuda pentagon!


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