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[jentury]

i found this website that exposes alot of firefox fanboy myths. http://mywebpages.co...refoxMyths.html
now i use firefox but im not a fanatic and i wont argue with someone about what is better firefox or ie or opera, i just wanted to show people all of the firefox myths that firefox fanatics created (and theres alot )

[Sweeney]

Myth - "Firefox is not a Religion"

Yup.
Get off my internets.

[Waser Lave]

The main thing which annoys me about IE7 at the moment is that the vertical scrollbar isn't all the way to the right of the screen, there's approximately 1px width of border to the right of it which means that you actually have to aim your cursor slightly to the left to grab the bastard...whereas with Firefox it's all the way on the right edge.

*strokes his Firefox while laughing manically*

Edited by Laser Wave, 17 August 2007 - 03:39 PM.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

I use FF and have for a while, but I do have to admit everything about it has always been a bit overblown. People support FF with a fervor for no reason (maybe they're bored and just want an easy cause to be a champion for) and tout supposed facts about its security and such that just aren't true. Don't get me wrong, I love FF, but it's not as great as people to make it out to be. (and IE isn't as bad as people make it out to be either)

Oh yeah.... and my Firefox crashes regularly while doing certain tasks, so anyone that says Firefox is super reliable and never crashes just hasn't found the thing that'll do it yet

[Cant Stop Me]

IE = no, Firefox = yes.

[Hawk]

I like Firefox more because
1) Some B/S toolbar doesn't appear at random.
2) I'm used to the layout. I couldn't stand Opera.

[Christopher Robin]

If Firefox was really that bad than no one would use it. I have tried both Opera and IE and have always come back to Firefox. Why that is? I've no idea, but for some reason I like it over the other browser, and that must make it better, at least in my eyes.

Same... I went to Opera for a while, but switched back to FF later

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Firefox's popularity is pretty much a result of good marketing and a niche group of computer users that hate Microsoft for every reason they can possibly think of. It's marketing got the message out to those people, who easily picked up on it and started touting its superiority over Internet Explorer. Notice how no one ever argues about "Firefox is so much better than Opera!" or "Firefox is so much better than Safari!" The marketing got people to use firefox, and the anti-MS zealots spread it.

The reason I use FF now is because I've been using FF for a while, and have no reason to change. Everything is set up how I want it to be and everything works like it should. The big reason I got into it at all in the beginning was tabbed browsing... Which IE now has so if it wasn't for that, who knows if I'd be using FF at all.

It's not a bad browser. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't be using it if it was a bad browser. But in the end it's just a browser like the other browsers and there is no ultimate superiority of one over the other.

[Akira]

All that I know is that IE7 is really slow, really badly slapped together, and really annoying on my computer. Firefox pwns it on my computer, haha. I haven't tried Opera yet (except on the Wii), but if it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? Once Firefox starts acting screwy, I'll try out Opera, heh.

EDIT: Knock on wood, as soon as I said that, Firefox started acting screwy and froze up. Guess I'm trying Opera, haha.

Edited by Akira, 17 August 2007 - 05:37 PM.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Actually, I think I shall make a derived theory of Godwin's Law.

"As an online discussion about computing grows longer, the probability of someone insulting or making an illogical claim about Microsoft or one of its products approaches one, regardless of its relevance to the discussion."

Edited by BrknPhoenix, 17 August 2007 - 05:48 PM.

[ink]

If Opera made more room for extension building... I might be happy with it as a regular browser... but they don't... thus why I do the FireFox thing. FireFox is a memory hog on everything but a few Linux distros... even then it has its moments.

The only thing about the extensions is that one of the major reason why FireFox has security vulnerabilities is because of them... so perhaps that is why Opera avoided them?

Also, I am guessing you got this eventually through that Digg article.

[Rikku]

haha i love all of the good things it sais about Opera.... it's the fastest graphics, add free and also the safest borwer out there... or according to the cite it is atleast... and i've been using it now for well over a year..

w00t go me

[ShadowLink64]

The reason I use FF now is because I've been using FF for a while, and have no reason to change. Everything is set up how I want it to be and everything works like it should. The big reason I got into it at all in the beginning was tabbed browsing... Which IE now has so if it wasn't for that, who knows if I'd be using FF at all.

It's not a bad browser. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't be using it if it was a bad browser. But in the end it's just a browser like the other browsers and there is no ultimate superiority of one over the other.

Yeah, basically the same way I think too. I use Firefox and will continue to do so because there have been no problems with it so far.

[Gen]

I like the interface of firefox, Idk why, but I just loved firefox xD

[Rikku]

I like the interface of firefox, Idk why, but I just loved firefox xD

I used to use FF.... untill it started randomly blocking things in neo... got to the point wher ei had to take off adblocker... and it still didn't fix anything... uninstalled and reinstalled firefox like 3-4 times.... nothing... stilll the whole toolbar on neo is missing for me.... even when neo changed the layout.. the toolbar still won't show up for me... so i don't know what went wrong with mine.

[dolphinbomb]

If Opera made more room for extension building... I might be happy with it as a regular browser... but they don't... thus why I do the FireFox thing.

Same. I can't live without a few of the extensions I have (or rather, don't want to )

Edited by dolphinbomb, 17 August 2007 - 07:06 PM.

[redlion]

The main thing which annoys me about IE7 at the moment is that the vertical scrollbar isn't all the way to the right of the screen, there's approximately 1px width of border to the right of it which means that you actually have to aim your cursor slightly to the left to grab the bastard...whereas with Firefox it's all the way on the right edge.

*strokes his Firefox while laughing manically*

This is true. I also don't like how big the upper third is. Sorry, by upper third I mean the tabs, menus and toolbars, as well as the address bar. They're too big, and not good looking.

Firefox's popularity is pretty much a result of good marketing and a niche group of computer users that hate Microsoft for every reason they can possibly think of. It's marketing got the message out to those people, who easily picked up on it and started touting its superiority over Internet Explorer. Notice how no one ever argues about "Firefox is so much better than Opera!" or "Firefox is so much better than Safari!" The marketing got people to use firefox, and the anti-MS zealots spread it.

This is true. They pretty much went for safer browsing than IE, which they do quite well. I disagree with calling it marketing, simply because they're a nonprofit and they're doing it for pretty much altruistic reasons.

The reason I use FF now is because I've been using FF for a while, and have no reason to change. Everything is set up how I want it to be and everything works like it should. The big reason I got into it at all in the beginning was tabbed browsing... Which IE now has so if it wasn't for that, who knows if I'd be using FF at all.

It's not a bad browser. Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't be using it if it was a bad browser. But in the end it's just a browser like the other browsers and there is no ultimate superiority of one over the other.

This is pretty much why I use it as well. Everything works in firefox. Always. The only thing that pissed me off was that some websites did that 'we only cater to IE and netscape based browsers can't view us' thing. But most of them have stopped, so I'm happy (yay mapleglobal.com!).

[Tetiel]

It is right in some ways. Often on my computer it uses an extreme amount of RAM that it shouldn't need to use and IE does not have that problem. Regardless since I'm so used to it I use FF (yes I will continue using that instead of Fx) anyways.

[magda11us]

I'm happy with firefox, nothing has happened so far. Plus IE7 is slower on my computer.

[DudeOnline]

System Requirements System Requirements

Myth - "Firefox has lower System Requirements than Internet Explorer" - Example

Reality - Internet Explorer 6 has much lower minimum System Requirements than Firefox 1.x or 2.x

Notes - IE6 has the largest market share of any browser.


Internet Explorer Internet Explorer - Source

Minimum:
486/66 MHz CPU
16 MB of RAM
11.5 MB of free disk space
Windows 98

Notes - Anyone who claims Internet Explorer 6 will not run on these requirements has never tested it.

Latest Version is 7. phailsauce. This is taken directly from the M$ website.

Computer/Processor


Computer with a 233MHz processor or higher (Pentium processor recommended)



Operating System


Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1)



Memory


For Internet Explorer 7:

* Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) - 64 MB
* Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - 128 MB
* Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1) - 64 MB
* Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 ia64 - 128 MB




Drive


CD-ROM drive (if installation is done from a CD-ROM)



Display


Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution monitor with 256 colors



Peripherals


Modem or Internet connection; Microsoft Mouse, Microsoft IntelliMouse, or compatible pointing device

Tabbed Browsing IE

Myth - "Firefox supports Tabbed Browsing and Internet Explorer does not" - Example

Reality - Internet Explorer 6 supports Tabbed Browsing when used with the MSN Toolbar extension in Windows XP. - Source

so....Internet explorer (6) does not support tabbed browsing. the MSN toobar extention does. that would be like me saying neopets supports chjeat programs because they are compatable with their site. phail.



this guy is bashing on fanboys, but it seems like he's an opera fanboy himself. bleh.

[Sasha]

Regardless of whatever is written out there about Firefox, I couldn't possibly believe it's slower than IE or Opera when I see the contrary with my own eyes.
Plus, it's never been unstable for me so far.
I'm not a Windows hater, but IE is not their best product.

[Fatal]

Firefox = Yes
IE = Yes
Opera = Yes


Any of them will work fine for the majority of people, they all have problems, and they all have pro's and con's, I use firefox 100% but I'm not going to say it owns IE or it owns all other browsers All personal preference. I agree that website is on Opera's side but it DOES give you links as proof so its not 100% BS

Interesting read though

Edited by Fatal, 18 August 2007 - 01:29 AM.

[phalkon]

yeah, there is a lot of "opera is the bestest" going on there...

i got on to FF a while back *because* of the tabbed browsing, it's been great, and has helped keep down clutter. so no wonder it might take up more space... but whatever, i likes it.

[Akira]

Alright...a quick trial of Opera told me that I'm just too used to FireFox ^-^ I have it customized how I like it with an Adblocker and an Auto refresher...

I think my distaste for IE7 probably stems from a distaste for Windows...I had an office job for a few months, and it was the worst job I'd ever seen o.O Microsoft and Apple...don't really like either. Linux is awesome...but I don't have it, haha.