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[Greeny]

Ok mind the death threat, but looksy here: http://en.wikipedia....eep_deprivation

OK!!!

But..if you go to bed at 4am and wake up at 10am etc...(catch it up) will you get those effects?

[Hydrogen]

I don't know much on the subject but I think that catching it up is better than nothing. It's probably not as good for you as going to sleep at proper times but at least you got that sleep that your body needed...

It's heavily understated how important sleep is for you.

And here I am writing this post at 3:30 AM...I am too stressed about school tomorrow . I don't want to go back .

[Greeny]

lol yeh, i was thinking about it and sleep patterns..

probally best to have a regular routine like go to bed at midnight, wake up at 8am and use that time (from 8am) as you usually would late at night. But pc/tv is so much better at night..then in the morning

[phalkon]

It's heavily understated how important sleep is for you.

YES! of course if you're in the army, they don't always care about you getting sleep. at least in BCT and AIT they didn't seem to.

and, according to army standards (and what the drill sergeants yelled at us) "a body requires only 4 hours of sleep per day"

which is really fucked up considering how much we actually did. wooooo. glad those days are over!

[Tetiel]

Over a long time of sleep deprivation those things CAN happen to you but not when you do it rarely (at least I hope not!). Your body does need sleep and if you don't give your body enough you will be screwed up. Why do you think you need a lot when you're sick? It helps the immune system do your job. If you don't get enough you will be prone to more infections as it will be down.

Also unfortunately I've noticed that if I have very little sleep I have trouble controlling my emotions. Once I had about 3 hours of sleep in two days and unfortunately I found out something very bad and the whole entire day I couldn't stop crying which is rather rare for me. It's just not a good idea.

[Oaken]

I read about an experiment a while ago where 3 people were going to try and train their bodies to survive on 1 hours sleep a day. It's scientifically possible and they were told it was not dangerous.....otherwise they would not have done it. Anyway, two of them dropped out but this one guy kept going and succeeded. He now survives on 3 lots of 20 minutes of sleep a day.

He used all the extra time he was awake to teach himself the guitar and other things he would of been unable to do otherwise. Apparantly your body only needs e.g 8 hours of sleep because it gets used to having that amount. As with anything that changes...it takes time to adjust.

[Greeny]

I think thats possible...but only 3x 20 minutes naps? far out! talk about living longer then everyone else...
i find i go to bed at 4am and then wake up at around 9-10am, hope thats enough sleep

[philywilly]

In the summer of '06 I was experimenting with Polyphasic Sleep and the first week you're forced to be deprived from a big part of your sleep and then your body gets used to it. But I was reading and they said there have been no proven facts of long term negative effects on the body 'cause by sleep deprivation.

So I'm guessing either they did the research between those two years or I just read wrong.

Anyways, I also read about this guy who holds the world record for longest time with no sleep and as much as he must of been pretty fucked during those eleven days, he got better as time passed by after his experiment. (I think it was 11 days, not sure)

[Hydrogen]

I didn't sleep last night since I was too stressed about school today...now I can't sleep now because I'm too stressed about tonight.

Shit.

[Wicked]

hydro go get some sleep x.X

Yeah usually when I am jamming or procrastinating on a project is when I lose the most sleep... there was once I went to school and for the next 48 hours only slept like an hour or two and that was during a class that I knew I wouldn't fail I usually tend to get very aggravated with people and get impatient with what people were supposed to be helping me once I lost sleep...

[phalkon]

I read about an experiment a while ago where 3 people were going to try and train their bodies to survive on 1 hours sleep a day. It's scientifically possible and they were told it was not dangerous.....otherwise they would not have done it. Anyway, two of them dropped out but this one guy kept going and succeeded. He now survives on 3 lots of 20 minutes of sleep a day.

He used all the extra time he was awake to teach himself the guitar and other things he would of been unable to do otherwise. Apparantly your body only needs e.g 8 hours of sleep because it gets used to having that amount. As with anything that changes...it takes time to adjust.

very interesting. and i wouldn't doubt it, i've gotten to the point i can go a normal day no problem with about 5-6 hours of sleep (which is usually what i get anyway )

[philywilly]

very interesting. and i wouldn't doubt it, i've gotten to the point i can go a normal day no problem with about 5-6 hours of sleep (which is usually what i get anyway )

It's called Polyphasic sleep. I tried it two years ago but couldn't get passed the 3rd or 4th day since I missed a nap. If you have a free month or so, I'd recommend trying it.. it's a fun expirement, but very hard to pull off.

[foogie]

lol. I try to sleep as much as possible.... so hopefully those will be avoided.

[Sida]

I read about an experiment a while ago where 3 people were going to try and train their bodies to survive on 1 hours sleep a day. It's scientifically possible and they were told it was not dangerous.....otherwise they would not have done it. Anyway, two of them dropped out but this one guy kept going and succeeded. He now survives on 3 lots of 20 minutes of sleep a day.

He used all the extra time he was awake to teach himself the guitar and other things he would of been unable to do otherwise. Apparantly your body only needs e.g 8 hours of sleep because it gets used to having that amount. As with anything that changes...it takes time to adjust.

That's pretty interesting...I'm going to look a bit more into that. I usually get 4-6 hours sleep a day (excluding Saturday and Sunday). Like it's 00:25 now, I'll be going to bed between now and 2am but have to be up at 6:30.

I know if I went now I probably be lying in bed for ages trying to sleep. It kills me at college though, it really does.

[Hydrogen]

Still going on no sleep .

[Hydrogen]

Hydro, go have a glass of milk, preferably warm then get into your bed and close your eyes. If your mind is too active put on some music really low as you will concentrate on the music rather than worrying about school.
Try and get music you either know really really well, or that has no lyrics so your mind isn't trying to figure the lyrics out and take them in.

If that fails after a couple hours then get a brick or something heavy, get into bed and knock yourself out

There is a banquet tonight which I am doing the audio and video at ... then there is the after party ... I probably won't be sleeping until tomorrow .

[Tetiel]

The thing that worries me about the poly sleep is that I would imagine it would downgrade performance levels. Researchers have found that people who get REM sleep perform tasks recently learned better than those without it. Twenty minutes certainly is not enough to get it. I believe the experiment they did they woke people up as soon as they were starting REM sleep and then the next day compared them to a group that was allowed REM sleep and saw how well they did a task they learned the day before. I believe the number was that the REM sleep group did 70% better than the non REM sleep group did however don't quote me on the number as I haven't seen the documentary for a while.

[tastyphoxette]

I used to be able to go several days with very few hours of sleep a night. I became an insomniac for a year and a half when I was fifteen, and I ended up sleeping between 1-4 hours a night, or every other night.

Tough time. XD
Anyway, I used to be able to sleep for like, 4-6 and feel fine, but then. . . I got the bad mono (I slept around 23 hours a day for two months straight). D:

Now if I get like 5 hours of sleep, I don't function right, and I can't stay awake all day.

[phalkon]

I used to be able to go several days with very few hours of sleep a night. I became an insomniac for a year and a half when I was fifteen, and I ended up sleeping between 1-4 hours a night, or every other night.

wow, that's funny. i used to do the same thing like right after i got out of high school, i moved in with my dad and ended up staying on the comp like 21/7

even started a late-night "inner guild" in the neo guild i was in at the time... *sigh* those were the days

[Hydrogen]

The thing that worries me about the poly sleep is that I would imagine it would downgrade performance levels. Researchers have found that people who get REM sleep perform tasks recently learned better than those without it. Twenty minutes certainly is not enough to get it. I believe the experiment they did they woke people up as soon as they were starting REM sleep and then the next day compared them to a group that was allowed REM sleep and saw how well they did a task they learned the day before. I believe the number was that the REM sleep group did 70% better than the non REM sleep group did however don't quote me on the number as I haven't seen the documentary for a while.

The problem with polyphasic sleep cycles is that non-REM sleep is used to rebuild muscles and so if you are doing anything heavy duty with your body like working out or something, you should probably stay away from polyphasic sleep because your body wont be able to build your muscles back in time for your new workout session. That defeats the entire purpose of working out since you will always feel like shit .

Anyway, I used to be able to sleep for like, 4-6 and feel fine, but then. . . I got the bad mono (I slept around 23 hours a day for two months straight). D:

Looks like it caught up to you, BIG TIME .