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[nugget111]

If you believe in a god

then just

Sincerely ask him with FULL heart to guide you to the Truth ... beg him

For Allah says the he who desires guidance we shall for surly guide him.

[Waser Lave]

If you believe in a god

then just

Sincerely ask him with FULL heart to guide you to the Truth ... beg him

For Allah says the he who desires guidance we shall for surly guide him.

I asked to be guided to the truth, I'm waiting on my callback.

[nugget111]

I asked to be guided to the truth, I'm waiting on my callback.

can i have just 3 small min from your time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK04klr53i8




Al-Muhsinen means (the good doers)


Al-Muttaqin (the pious whose who fear Allah much)

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 01:56 AM.

[Waser Lave]

can i have just 3 small min from your time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK04klr53i8




Al-Muhsinen means (the good doers)


Al-Muttaqin (the pious whose who fear Allah much)

Can I have my 3 minutes back, please?

[nugget111]

Focus on the Hebrew text.

[Waser Lave]

As I've already told you, neither copying and pasting quotes nor posting videos is engaging in debate, it seems you're unable to come up with your own arguments so you have to rely on the words of others.

[nugget111]

As I've already told you, neither copying and pasting quotes nor posting videos is engaging in debate, it seems you're unable to come up with your own arguments so you have to rely on the words of others.

Can I have my 3 minutes back, please?

you are in auto - rejection mode

you need to come to

open heart mode

i sent you a video which is beneficial for you good for YOU.


AND YES MUHMMAD(peace of allah be upon him) IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE...

in the hebrew text

In the above video jus go 4 min 55 sec and play it for 20 sec !! there EASY way for you

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 02:27 AM.

[Claws]

Once upon a time I did. Then the world left 5 finger marks on my face and woke me up.

[Zeer]

I hope there's something out there in the same way I hope I'll win the lotto or I hope aliens will visit. I made up my own religion because I like to write (don't judge me, look at L. Ron Hubbard) and it satisfies the spiritual side of me and because knowing that souls don't exist and there is nothing after we die is bleak. Intellectually though, no. There is nothing else.

One could argue though that there are beings on higher dimensions, like the 5th+, who created our world. They'd be like gods to us, just as ineffable. Maybe that's what any god is - a super-dimensional being that we can't perceive. There is just as much evidence for that as there is for god, but more believable since we can scientifically imagine higher dimensions!

Edit: I would like to add that I'm super anti-mainstream religion. My sister turned super hardcore christian in the last few years. She used to be a cool person, now she's paranoid, aloof, and nothing like who she used to be =/

Edited by Zeer, 28 July 2011 - 02:28 AM.

[nugget111]

Find the Hebrew Audio of Bible Song of Songs .5 verse 16


listen to it and you will see that Muhammad(pbuh) is mentioned by word.

[jcrdude]

I hope there's something out there in the same way I hope I'll win the lotto or I hope aliens will visit. I made up my own religion because I like to write (don't judge me, look at L. Ron Hubbard) and it satisfies the spiritual side of me and because knowing that souls don't exist and there is nothing after we die is bleak. Intellectually though, no. There is nothing else.

Howso? Is this is personal disposition? I find it enabling. By some marvel of infinitesimal luck, I exist right now. I think it would be a waste to not use every day I'm alive to the fullest and live the best life I can because this is all I have and all I can really leave behind is my name... legacy... whatever you want to call it. It may seem bleak at first, but it's a really freeing experience.

[Waser Lave]

you are in auto - rejection mode

I'm actually in Moderator Mode, what you're doing isn't debating, it's preaching and this isn't the General Preaching area of the forum.

[nugget111]

I'm actually in Moderator Mode, what you're doing isn't debating, it's preaching and this isn't the General Preaching area of the forum.

refute me then with evidence . if indeed you are truthful

im quoting Bible .. and Quran

proving you Muhammad( PBUH) is mentioned in bible my name in Hebrew.texts.



song of songs ch 5 v 16

play this in audio in HEBREW language which is the original language of the bible

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 02:52 AM.

[artificial]

The Bible and the Quran are wrong. You've fallen victim to an elaborate lie, I'm afraid.

[nugget111]

<br>The Bible and the Quran are wrong. You've fallen victim to an elaborate lie, I'm afraid.<br>

present me your study with which you came to such a conclusion that the Quran is a lie or do you speak with out any knowledge and only follow your desire?

indeed those who follow there desires will for surly go astray.

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 03:03 AM.

[artificial]

Humans have a natural desire for survival, so surely if I was following my own desires, I would subscribe to an idea that promotes everlasting life.

Almost all religion is unfounded. I'm sure you can pick and choose quotes to use as evidence for it's divinity, but they're weak at best, and contentious at worst. Moreover, if there is a God, he's not just going to send all Muslims to Hell (or all Christians if you're Muslim).

And believe it or not, you can completely reject religion and still be a good person.

[MoriNoRyu]

present me your study with which you came to such a conclusion that the Quran is not a lie or do you speak with out any knowledge and only follow your desire?

indeed those who follow there desires will for surly go astray.

fixed*

Edited by MoriNoRyu, 28 July 2011 - 03:18 AM.

[nugget111]

http://www.islamic-a...scientists.html



NON Muslim Scientists' Comments On The Qur'an

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 03:33 AM.

[MoriNoRyu]

So let me get this straight, he is a NON-muslim, who believes in the Qur'an.
But this is much better than quoting out of the Qur'an.
Edit: This NON-Muslim scientists directs inquries to an essay by Basim Musallam on this topic.

But for clarification:
http://www.bible.ca/...-embryology.htm

...early Muslim doctors, like Ibn-Qayyim, were first to blow the whistle when they saw the Koranic material, mirrored a Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. In 1983 Basim Musallam, Director of the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Cambridge concluded, "The stages of development which the Qur'an and Hadith established for believers agreed perfectly with Galen's scientific account....There is no doubt that medieval thought appreciated this agreement between the Qur'an and Galen, for Arabic science employed the same Qur'anic terms to describe the Galenic stages...

Edited by MoriNoRyu, 28 July 2011 - 03:46 AM.

[nugget111]

So let me get this straight, he is a NON-muslim, who believes in the Qur'an.
But this is much better than quoting out of the Qur'an.
Edit: This NON-Muslim scientists directs inquries to an essay by Basim Musallam on this topic.

But for clarification:
http://www.bible.ca/...-embryology.htm

...early Muslim doctors, like Ibn-Qayyim, were first to blow the whistle when they saw the Koranic material, mirrored a Greek doctor named Galen, who lived of 150 AD. In 1983 Basim Musallam, Director of the Centre of Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Cambridge concluded, "The stages of development which the Qur'an and Hadith established for believers agreed perfectly with Galen's scientific account....There is no doubt that medieval thought appreciated this agreement between the Qur'an and Galen, for Arabic science employed the same Qur'anic terms to describe the Galenic stages...

it seems to me that You didnt even click this link i posted.

http://www.islamic-a...scientists.html

Edited by nugget111, 28 July 2011 - 04:52 AM.

[Faerhii]

Is it just me, or did the OP just make this topic to try to convert others to his belief?

[Elle]

i believe in god. i'm not going to toss around supposed evidence that he exists. it's called having "faith" for a reason.
but just quietly, nugget111; stop preaching your crap. if you believe in your god/ faith, good for you. why do you feel a need to convince or convert others?

[nugget111]

i believe in god. i'm not going to toss around supposed evidence that he exists. it's called having "faith" for a reason.
but just quietly, nugget111; stop preaching your crap. if you believe in your god/ faith, good for you. why do you feel a need to convince or convert others?

1. as a Muslim i call to good and forbid evil as this order by Allah to all Muslims

2. isnt this the section where u CAN talk about stuff like this?

3. people like to debate here. .. and i wished to see what they could throw at me

and Last

Islam is beautiful religion and would love to make it clear for the people due to all the misconceptions running around on TV etc

i give the people here first hand chance to talk to a REAL muslim and get whatever they have inside them about Islam Cleared.


And Allah is the source of Strength !!

[Sweeney]

1. as a Muslim i call to good and forbid evil as this order by Allah to all Muslims
2. isnt this the section where u CAN talk about stuff like this?
3. people like to debate here. .. and i wished to see what they could throw at me
and Last
Islam is beautiful religion and would love to make it clear for the people due to all the misconceptions running around on TV etc
i give the people here first hand chance to talk to a REAL muslim and get whatever they have inside them about Islam Cleared.
And Allah is the source of Strength !!

One line break is plenty. Using more, and irregularly, makes your shit a lot harder to read.
I say "shit" because, as has been pointed out to you already, you're not debating, you're preaching.

And badly, at that.

[Elle]

1. as a Muslim i call to good and forbid evil as this order by Allah to all Muslims

2. isnt this the section where u CAN talk about stuff like this?

3. people like to debate here. .. and i wished to see what they could throw at me

and Last

Islam is beautiful religion and would love to make it clear for the people due to all the misconceptions running around on TV etc

i give the people here first hand chance to talk to a REAL muslim and get whatever they have inside them about Islam Cleared.


And Allah is the source of Strength !!

blah blah, blah blah blah.