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[Waser Lave]

http://www.theregist...ns_scientology/

In an unprecedented effort to crack down on self-serving edits, the Wikipedia supreme court has banned contributions from all IP addresses owned or operated by the Church of Scientology and its associates.

Closing out the longest-running court case in Wikiland history, the site’s Arbitration Committee voted 10 to 0 (with one abstention) in favor of the move, which takes effect immediately.

The eighth most popular site on the web, Wikipedia bills itself as "the free encyclopedia anyone can edit." Administrators frequently ban individual Wikifiddlers for their individual Wikisins. And the site's UK press officer/resident goth once silenced an entire Utah mountain in a bizarre attempt to protect a sockpuppeting ex-BusinessWeek reporter. But according to multiple administrators speaking with The Reg, the muzzling of Scientology IPs marks the first time Wikipedia has officially barred edits from such a high-profile organization for allegedly pushing its own agenda on the site.

Now we just need governments to start banning them...

[rockage]

tom cruise is gonna buy a bunch of computer labs across the world to edit wikis

[Tetiel]

It's sad when wikipedia and france are more forward than the united states. At least France has charged them with fraud and Germany has outright banned them.

[Random]

It's sad when wikipedia and france are more forward than the united states. At least France has charged them with fraud and Germany has outright banned them.

If the United States banned Scientology they would be breaking the foremost thing they believe in, religious freedom.

[Noitidart]

Why? Were they making some weird edits. Like editing facts to what suits their beliefs?

tom cruise is gonna buy a bunch of computer labs across the world to edit wikis

That would be funny

[Sweeney]

If the United States banned Scientology they would be breaking the foremost thing they believe in, religious freedom.

Only if you consider Scientology to be a genuine religion

[Noitidart]

Only if you consider Scientology to be a genuine religion

This guy will loop hole anything.

But hey don't you have to recognize peoples right to freedom or something. And religion lies in that persons beliefs recognizing it?

[Sweeney]

But hey don't you have to recognize peoples right to freedom or something. And religion lies in that persons beliefs recognizing it?

Only if you think people should have the right to scam other people out of lots and lots of money.

[Mr. Hobo]

Scientology is a cult. But then against so is christianity/islam... Or rather they should be

[Melchoire]

That's awful, now this new development isn't going to be recorded in the article.

Scientology is a cult. But then against so is christianity/islam... Or rather they should be

and it begins....

[Tetiel]

Only if you think people should have the right to scam other people out of lots and lots of money.

Exactly. I'm sure some aspects of Scientology ARE harmless and it's totally fine to believe in Xenu and I will not condemn anyone for it, but there have been many, many cases of members not being allowed to leave their religion. A religion is not a true religion until it allows its followers to leave without fear.

[nox]

religion is evil

[pyke]

religion is evil

The roots of religion I think were to instill some fear of a higher being into the common fool to keep them in line. But we went and screwed that up pretty bad. At least modern religion anyway, not sure what the ancient Egyptians were thinking.

That, or a way for people to wear silly hats and claim superiority over everyone else. Either way.

[Hydrogen]

If the United States banned Scientology they would be breaking the foremost thing they believe in, religious freedom.

I cant tell if you are being serious or being sarcastic...

[Mr. Hobo]

Exactly. I'm sure some aspects of Scientology ARE harmless and it's totally fine to believe in Xenu and I will not condemn anyone for it, but there have been many, many cases of members not being allowed to leave their religion. A religion is not a true religion until it allows its followers to leave without fear.

Oh common. The only reason why modern religions let people leave is because they don't have the power to do so

[nox]

it's a real religion when you don't need to use scare tactics...modern christianity has simply evolved with society..they'd still be selling indulgences if they could

[Frizzle]

It's sad when wikipedia and france are more forward than the united states. At least France has charged them with fraud and Germany has outright banned them.

Get your facts right, the court case only charged individual members, and you know as well as I do that you can't judge an organisation, as much as you want to, on individuals.

Only if you consider Scientology to be a genuine religion

As much as Jedi is? The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of followers.

Only if you think people should have the right to scam other people out of lots and lots of money.

I thought we was talking about scientology, not catholicism? harhar

[Waser Lave]

Get your facts right, the court case only charged individual members, and you know as well as I do that you can't judge an organisation, as much as you want to, on individuals.

Actually in France the court case is against the Church of Scientology itself for organised fraud, it's the first time court cases haven't been aimed at individuals instead. Should be interesting to see what the outcome of that is.

[Frizzle]

Not what the BBC report last week said..

[Waser Lave]

Not what the BBC report last week said..

I'm fairly sure it did, I remember reading it.

Edit: Found it

http://news.bbc.co.u...ope/8066743.stm

The Church of Scientology has gone on trial in the French capital, Paris, accused of organised fraud.

The case centres on a complaint by a woman who says she was pressured into paying large sums of money after being offered a free personality test.

The church, which is fighting the charges, denies that any mental manipulation took place.

France regards Scientology as a sect, not a religion, and the organisation could be banned if it loses the case.

It is the first time the church has appeared as a defendant in a fraud case in France. Previous court cases have involved individual Scientologists.

[Tetiel]

Actually in France the court case is against the Church of Scientology itself for organised fraud, it's the first time court cases haven't been aimed at individuals instead. Should be interesting to see what the outcome of that is.

Thank you.

Anyways, almost all major religions have some sort of dark past. I'm not too aware of Buddhism having one where they have persecuted those who have tried to leave, but I'm sure somewhere in their past there's been at least some problems. I know in some areas of the world you can be killed or tortured for trying to leave your religion, and I charge those with not being true religions as well.

[Bryan]

I don't see why. Scientology is nothing more than a modern adaptation of religion. We need something that doesn't involve shit that happened 2000+ years ago. It just gets a lot of shit because it hasn't been around for ages. Idk, I think it's a stupid thing to do, not like people can't just reroute their IP's, it's the goddamn church of Scientology.

[113]

Wikicourt, wikisins, wikiparlance, wikipowersthatbe, wikifiddler...

Wikiseriously?

[Tetiel]

I don't see why. Scientology is nothing more than a modern adaptation of religion. We need something that doesn't involve shit that happened 2000+ years ago. It just gets a lot of shit because it hasn't been around for ages. Idk, I think it's a stupid thing to do, not like people can't just reroute their IP's, it's the goddamn church of Scientology.

Except Scientology involves stuff that happened 75 million years ago instead.

[Bryan]

Except Scientology involves stuff that happened 75 million years ago instead.

Mmhmm, but it also deals with things that seem a bit more technologically advanced than other popular religions. Idk, I found an explanations as to why it was a good example of religion (how we all think it's bull, but it involves things more modern than other religions) and I agreed with it, but I can't seem to find where I was reading it at (no it wasn't a Scientology based article, it was from an outside source that said the religion wasn't as crazy as everyone makes it out to be).