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#26 Waser Lave

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 03:39 AM

Okay. I'll correct it. "Potential for earth-like atmosphere"


It'd be just about impossible to have any kind of earth-like atmosphere on the moon because the gravity is so low. And the lack of a present atmosphere would make it a bitch for any gasses which you would try to introduce because of the solar radiation which is constantly bombarding it. :/ Some of the moons around other planets like Europa would probably be a lot better for trying to do this kind of thing to though since they already have an atmosphere of their own.

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    #27 hahaman

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:06 AM

    no it doesn't have that potential

    its mass is much smaller than earth's, it wouldn't have the gravitional attraction to keep that much air within a range comparable to earth's atmosphere, the gases would escape as much as they enter if u're looking at the amount they have now, not unless the moon's mass increases drastically.

    on the latter point, there's another problem, that the moon would leave orbit and smash into earth

    The significane of water on the moon means that it has the potential for an atmosphere!


    no, water exists everywhere

    check any meteorite, the most basic elements that make up a majority of its mass would be metals like iron, and water(ice)

    it's very plentiful, and its presence doesn't mean anything

    #28 iargue

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:06 AM

    no it doesn't have that potential

    its mass is much smaller than earth's, it wouldn't have the gravitional attraction to keep that much air within a range comparable to earth's atmosphere, the gases would escape as much as they enter if u're looking at the amount they have now, not unless the moon's mass increases drastically.

    on the latter point, there's another problem, that the moon would leave orbit and smash into earth



    Retarded......

    #29 Waser Lave

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:10 AM

    Retarded......


    Quite. The moon is already moving further away from the Earth, every year the orbit gets a few cm larger and the earth's rotation slows down a tiny bit too.

    And it would be near impossible to add any significant mass to the moon ourselves.

    #30 hahaman

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:20 AM

    you guys are retarded. your points are good, and that's why i'm not talking about manual mass adding, i'm talking about stuff like meteor collisions

    it would be nothing new, planets get hit by and accumulate space debris all the time, and given enough time eventually everything would collapse into one. moons into planets, planets into their suns, suns into each other. that's how supernovas and black holes come about. the mass would increase not by us, through an act of god if you will

    no matter how insignificant, every bit of mass added to the moon would increase its downward velocity towards the earth due to increased cross attraction between earth and it.

    Edited by hahaman, 23 November 2009 - 06:21 AM.


    #31 iargue

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 06:27 AM

    you guys are retarded. your points are good, and that's why i'm not talking about manual mass adding, i'm talking about stuff like meteor collisions

    it would be nothing new, planets get hit by and accumulate space debris all the time, and given enough time eventually everything would collapse into one. moons into planets, planets into their suns, suns into each other. that's how supernovas and black holes come about. the mass would increase not by us, through an act of god if you will

    no matter how insignificant, every bit of mass added to the moon would increase its downward velocity towards the earth due to increased cross attraction between earth and it.


    Still retarded. Learn about gravity please?


    We have yet to experiance a moon hitting a planet, and there are planets over millions of years older then we are. Black holes are also not caused by planets hitting each other, they are caused by an sun at the end of its life cycle (How Ironic. Gives off heat, takes away everything in the end)

    #32 hahaman

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:17 AM

    gravity is the cross attraction between two bodies of mass towards each other.

    increase in mass increases attraction force and thus acceleration, and increased acceleration increases downward velocity. learn about velocity please. you may NOT witness a single moon collision from maybe 20 solar systems in ur lifetime, but who are you compared to the life of the universe :rolleyes:


    stars keep themselves apart with constant nuclear reactions from hydrogen to helium from within, and approaching the end of their life, with a sudden reduction in the fusion rate to sustain its own gravitational attraction, it collapses upon itself. the resultant crash manifests as a supernova, a sudden huge mix of whatever reacting hydrogen mass is left, until the heat concentration is high enough to initiate helium fusion into carbon and eventually blah blah blah into iron.

    anyway aside from this side note, the collapse of the sun is when reaction energy becomes < than gravitational force between itself, when it starts collapsing upon itself. having planets gain mass is no mysterious thing, it happens all the time in collisions, even if you don't see it. moost meteors that hit earth vapourise and combust from the heat of atmosphere entry before you even see it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. it adds solid mass in the form of dust, sox or nox, and other forms of liquid/solid capable gas mass like water vapour. it adds on mass, but does not add on velocity in the same amount as originally possessed in the existant path of orbit, depending on which direction it hit and how the forces got redirected. F=MA, Foriginal is then added to Fmeteorite (no matter how seemingly insignificant every bit counts), and if, in all possibilities of that word, the F may be changed big enough to disrupt orbit of the resultant Moriginal + Mmeteorite (total mass), your centripetal : centrifugal balance might be disrupted, causing a collapse. This is a scenario that would eventually happen, and in such a case, planets (and direct entry meteorites) would serve to increase the mass of the sun, disrupting the original reaction-explosion : gravitational pull ratio the sun is sustaining, triggering the collapse that ends up supernova

    it's not the only way a star dies, but it's one of the ways. F=MA -> centrifugal:centripetal balance -> planet gets closer with every orbit and eventually collides -> increasing mass, disrupting explosion-outward:gravity-inward balance causing an internal collapse. so yea that's how supernova gets worked into the whole thing


    back to the topic, i maintain my stand. the technical possibility of such an influence/trigger is still present, and no one actually cares if u ever see one in ur 90 years of life. the universe is billions of years old. no one cares about iargue who couldn't see past himself

    #33 iargue

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:18 AM

    Alot of inaccurate stuff.


    I'm trying not to argue anymore, so I'll let you believe whatever you wish to believe, just dont derail my topic :)

    #34 BellaBleu

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:23 PM

    I'm trying not to argue anymore, so I'll let you believe whatever you wish to believe, just dont derail my topic :)


    Then you should change your name ;)

    #35 iargue

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    Posted 23 November 2009 - 02:23 PM

    Then you should change your name ;)



    No. This is my damn name. You change your name.


    *Sagenod*


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