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[danibanani]

Absolutely. Especially if your account isn't that good to begin with. I have been here a long time and I have never been frozen for using the autobuyer. If you are careful you can make millions at virtually no risk so you might as well use it. Besides, if you get frozen, you can just start over again.

Exactly this. I would never use it on my main, worked way to hard to have any chance, there's never been any cheating done it. Okay, maybe I misprice at 1NP on my shells shop and buy it with my main if the items are really really good. I can't get away with selling UBs on my shell, it's an obvious shell. It's so easy too. I've even accidentally left it running for over 24 hours by accident and had no neopoints on hand, still never got frozen. TNT sucks at freezing people actually. It's the same account with several duped items still in the SDB. 

[redlion]

Exactly this. I would never use it on my main, worked way to hard to have any chance, there's never been any cheating done it. Okay, maybe I misprice at 1NP on my shells shop and buy it with my main if the items are really really good. I can't get away with selling UBs on my shell, it's an obvious shell. It's so easy too. I've even accidentally left it running for over 24 hours by accident and had no neopoints on hand, still never got frozen. TNT sucks at freezing people actually. It's the same account with several duped items still in the SDB.

If it is so obvious that your shell is a shell, and you still haven't been frozen, what makes you think that the same method on your main would give different results?

In other words, if it's safe on your shell which is obviously not legit, why wouldn't it be safe on an account that looks better?

I take after @Drakonid in this matter - if it's worth doing I'll do it on my main. When I can remember the login that is.

[danibanani]

I just like my main too much to run anything on it. 

[Branlaur]

You're probably safe doing anything on your main nowadays. I duped over 600 mil in items + I ab now and then (also legit RS too) and SS. Haven't been frozen. I also buy/sell duped items pretty regularly.

 

And my main account is pretty legit/I'd be said if it was frozen. Got 2 stamp avvies, 2 UC's, and a lot of irreplaceable stuff.

 

 

TL;DR You're safe to AB on a main as long as you're not stupid about it

[Arnau]

You're probably safe doing anything on your main nowadays. I duped over 600 mil in items + I ab now and then (also legit RS too) and SS. Haven't been frozen. I also buy/sell duped items pretty regularly.

 

And my main account is pretty legit/I'd be said if it was frozen. Got 2 stamp avvies, 2 UC's, and a lot of irreplaceable stuff.

 

 

TL;DR You're safe to AB on a main as long as you're not stupid about it

 

 

Would getting rs banned 3x in a row for 12 hours raise too many flags?

[danibanani]

I don't think getting RS banned has anything to do with it, I legit rs on my main and get banned every other day for 12-24 hours, and even check the shops when I'm banned just in case I'm not banned. Stupid clearing system. I just think a constant rs over the course of several hours would raise some flags, and then continuing that same trying to rs when banned and not realizing it.

[Arnau]

It's a shame that Tiki is no longer a great restock ban checker. I never run any programs for more than 30 mins without checking them to see updates.

[Branlaur]

Would getting rs banned 3x in a row for 12 hours raise too many flags?

Nah, I legit RS all the time. And I get RS banned everyday for 12-24 hours. Whenever I legit RS I restock until I get RS banned so everyday I get a ban for 12-24 hours

[NotCheatingAtAll]

When you guys AB on shells/sides do you use a VPN/proxy or do you just do it on the same IP as your main? I'm curious because of the risk factor, I'm tired of ABing on my main because it feels too risky.  

[Branlaur]

Nah, I don't use a proxy for my main or side. I probably should, but I don't. No problem yet, been a few months.

[danibanani]

I've never used a proxy, no idea how to even start that lool 

[danibanani]

They used to be better at freezing people. That probably wouldn't have worked well a year or two ago. But staff cuts means you can get away with more

 

While this is true, and I got away with sending MSPP (TCG) to my main for the avatar, and to several others who I could trust with the fact it was duped, and still have them in their accounts, I always am a little bit nervous when it comes to my main account, just because you never really know when they'll decide to be more diligent with freezing people who should be frozen.

[Natalya]

I've RSed on my main for 2 + years and no issues. Mostly because I don't run it everyday and run it at times like I'd actually be legit RSing. Seems to work for me. Made maybe like 15 - 20 million nps. Mind you not much but I sometimes go for months without playing Neo.

[AngelicDarkness]

Not sure where best to ask this, but what size shop is worth buying up to if you're starting to AB?

[danibanani]

Not sure where best to ask this, but what size shop is worth buying up to if you're starting to AB?

 

I think it depends on how much you're planning on autobuying. I don't AB as much anymore but when I did, I had it set to 700NP profit and up, so I had hundreds of items daily and my SDB was always way too full, never really had enough room to stock it all. 

[iKate]

Not sure where best to ask this, but what size shop is worth buying up to if you're starting to AB?

As danibanani says it depends on how much you AB. I AB 1,5 hours a day on my main(mostly in the stamp shop), and my shop size is 25. You shouldn't worry too much about that when you're just starting, I only upgrade my shop when I run out of space so you can do it like that too

 

Also danibanani I think 700np is way too low, and especially if you want to price your items the lowest on the SW? Did you make a lot of profit with those items? When I set my profit to 5000np I sometimes gain almost no np.

Edited by iKate, 21 May 2015 - 08:17 AM.

[danibanani]

Also danibanani I think 700np is way too low, and especially if you want to price your items the lowest on the SW? Did you make a lot of profit with those items? When I set my profit to 5000np I sometimes gain almost no np.

 

It depended on the day, I have my shop almost size 500 on my main so I was always in need of more items, so when I set it that low, it would still pick up the UBs and higher profit items, and when I got the high profit items it made up for the items that weren't really profit at all. I had a whole system lol. AB on my shell, misprice them all in that shop, buy them all with my main, price into my mains shop. Even if I wasn't truly making profit, it felt like I was.

I hardly AB now though, I used to do it when there was a NP generator in the program manager, so I never sent any NPs to my shell, they just accumulated on their own.

[iKate]

It depended on the day, I have my shop almost size 500 on my main so I was always in need of more items, so when I set it that low, it would still pick up the UBs and higher profit items, and when I got the high profit items it made up for the items that weren't really profit at all. I had a whole system lol. AB on my shell, misprice them all in that shop, buy them all with my main, price into my mains shop. Even if I wasn't truly making profit, it felt like I was.

I hardly AB now though, I used to do it when there was a NP generator in the program manager, so I never sent any NPs to my shell, they just accumulated on their own.

Oh okay, so it's not like setting your profit to 700 np you're gaining np with those items How many items a day did you misprice? Weird you got away with it, I've always thought mispricing items is really risky, especially if you misprice almost every item you buy?  

[danibanani]

Every item I mispriced. LOL. I AB for several hours, or until getting banned, or running out of NPs. I'd do the misprice thing on every item the auto buyer grabbed, once or twice a week, depending on how much I felt like sitting there and buying them all fast before anyone else. I just set them at 1NP. And the shop name was the 1NP Sale Shop, people use to mail me to see if I was holding one soon and I'd always reply and tell them I'd let them know, never did though haha. Only a few times did someone else go into that shop and buy a whole bunch before me. 

[iKate]

Every item I mispriced. LOL. I AB for several hours, or until getting banned, or running out of NPs. I'd do the misprice thing on every item the auto buyer grabbed, once or twice a week, depending on how much I felt like sitting there and buying them all fast before anyone else. I just set them at 1NP. And the shop name was the 1NP Sale Shop, people use to mail me to see if I was holding one soon and I'd always reply and tell them I'd let them know, never did though haha. Only a few times did someone else go into that shop and buy a whole bunch before me. 

What?? Tnt must like you haha or mispricing items isn't that dangerous as I think. Thanks for this, I'll maybe try mispricing some items in the future when I AB on my shell again. But I mostly only AB on my main so I don't need to transfer things often.

Edited by iKate, 21 May 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[danibanani]

What?? Tnt must like you haha or mispricing items isn't that dangerous as I think. Thanks for this, I'll maybe try mispricing some items in the future when I AB on my shell again. But I mostly only AB on my main so I don't need to transfer things often.

 

I never know it was dangerous at all haha, I've done it for a long time. Even when I first started to do it, I needed to transfer NPs in the beginning, I priced junk at 99,999nps and bought them with my main to start off. I should probably try and be more careful though. 

[iKate]

I never know it was dangerous at all haha, I've done it for a long time. Even when I first started to do it, I needed to transfer NPs in the beginning, I priced junk at 99,999nps and bought them with my main to start off. I should probably try and be more careful though. 

Yeah you should did you misprice a lot of UB items? If not tnt probably didn't notice you because most items were worth less than 100k.

[danibanani]

Yeah you should did you misprice a lot of UB items? If not tnt probably didn't notice you because most items were worth less than 100k.

 

Quite a few actually LOL. Lab map pieces and paintbrushes too. I'm surprised I never got caught now.

[iKate]

Quite a few actually LOL. Lab map pieces and paintbrushes too. I'm surprised I never got caught now.

I don't get it at all lol. Tnt must have thought it was a sort of side account or so and that you were not cheating

Edited by iKate, 21 May 2015 - 09:01 AM.

[danibanani]

Or TNT just isn't that smart hahaha.