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#1 Junsu

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:51 PM

This is mainly just for myself...

Level
Shouldn't matter if you can just feed/pot to level str/der
Use training school + Faerie Fortune

Endurance
Snegg (1-3)
126 Negg Token
1-3 Movement
Starving Time: 1:31

Strength
Bubbling Fungus (1.75)
110k

Defense
Armoured Negg (1)
16 Negg Token
Starving Time: 1:01

Bomberry Elixir (1?)
30k
25% chance

Movement

Snegg (1-3)
126 Negg Token
1-3 Endurance
Starving Time: 1:31

Int
Play Cliffhanger


One Negg Token ~ 2k

Edited by PlsLetMeTalk2AdmBe4BanPls, 23 September 2012 - 02:28 PM.


#2 Cript

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:04 PM

ASP is 95k/str. Bubbling Fungus is about 50K/str (frequently buyable, 1.75 avg). Jar of Forest Earth is even better than ASP IMO but Fungus is way way way better.

And for INT, Sparkle Potion is the way to go.

#3 Junsu

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:28 PM

ASP is 95k/str. Bubbling Fungus is about 50K/str (frequently buyable, 1.75 avg). Jar of Forest Earth is even better than ASP IMO but Fungus is way way way better.

And for INT, Sparkle Potion is the way to go.


Will change.
Sparkle Potions take too long compared to a Cliffhanger AP :c

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:00 PM

410 Bubbling Fungus for an average gain of 1.414634 str per use

That's a miss calculation too. The full data actually showed 1.37XXX when I used excel for the summation.

#5 Cript

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

410 Bubbling Fungus for an average gain of 1.414634 str per use

That's a miss calculation too. The full data actually showed 1.37XXX when I used excel for the summation.


I was closer to 1.8 with the 400 I used.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:00 PM

I'd post the full data logs, but she has them now. That was a while ago. I only used ~100m worth of them for 1.4ish each. ASPs were easier to get and more efficient for me.

#7 Guest_coltom_*

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

Do not discount the possibility that that Neopets has adjusted the odds. Also, given 11 outcomes of a bubbling fungus and a sample size of 400 isn't going to give you an average result with any certainty.

Edited by coltom, 23 September 2012 - 06:15 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:20 PM

Do not discount the possibility that that Neopets has adjusted the odds. Also, given 11 outcomes of a bubbling fungus and a sample size of 400 isn't going to give you an average result with any certainty.


Actually is was closer to this amount of NP spent on bubbling fungus. I'm too lazy to do the math rn but each of those are from the same week. It took me a lot longer than that to buy all the bubblings though -_-" I'd say the sample size between the two of us is probably closer to 600-700 now. We tested some Jar of Forest Earth also, which is actually better in our experience.

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#9 Guest_coltom_*

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:33 PM

I've gone through about 15, but did not keep my results. Do you have the raw data, I'm curious about what type of distribution the possible outcomes present.

#10 Cript

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:37 PM

Actually is was closer to this amount of NP spent on bubbling fungus. I'm too lazy to do the math rn but each of those are from the same week. It took me a lot longer than that to buy all the bubblings though -_-" I'd say the sample size between the two of us is probably closer to 600-700 now. We tested some Jar of Forest Earth also, which is actually better in our experience.

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JoFE was significantly worse for me but would require a much much larger sample size.

#11 Guest_coltom_*

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:41 PM

I do have a small self interest in ASP increasing to 500K. I think I tried like 4 JoFE and got nothing,

#12 Cript

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

I do have a small self interest in ASP increasing to 500K. I think I tried like 4 JoFE and got nothing,


I've had streaks of 20 w/o anything. Never had a streak worse than 3 negative Fungi so definitely prefer them.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 06:55 PM

Laura has it. I never logged individual usage, just a running tally. I'll probably end up blowing more on fruitless training in the future.


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