What happens if im missing a list and my aber automatically goes to the shop with no list? Will it not buy anything or will it use the codex database? Also is the database more trustworthy than jellyneo?
AB lists (Share your up to date lists!)
Started by anewvision, Apr 09 2013 07:19 PM
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Posted 04 January 2014 - 07:43 PM
If you try to ab with manual list and you forget to import a list, abrosia wont start.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:09 PM
Are the lists still working today? Also besides stamps/magic shop, what else are the high risks shop?
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:14 PM
They should all work. Some might have out of date items, you can just weed them out. I think battle is also kinda risky. But basically don't do stupid refresh times/length of autobuying then you should be fine.
I am not an advanced member so the best time I can set is 8 seconds which is not that bad. I wonder are there lots of ABer at the "risky" stores so if I go there without increasing speed, can I still get stuffs?
Edited by brianbrian, 19 January 2014 - 10:15 PM.
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:18 PM
They're risky because they give lots of really good items. A lot of people legit restock/autobuy in these shops, so the shops are getting cleared which means better restocks, but now you have to compete for those better restocks with 5 times more people. You can definitely get good items, it'll just take time and being smart
Oh okay, thanks that is really helpful. I am restocking at bakery now. Where do you restock at and do you use your own list?
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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:42 PM
Jeez, 2014-01-19 22:23:57 - Warning: Main Shop Restocking Ban Detected. Switching to Igloo...
Are you kidding me TNT this is my first day restocking........
Thanks for the list, yeah foods are hard to sell...
I just realize I can't access to the database, I need to use other's lists 
Edited by brianbrian, 19 January 2014 - 10:45 PM.
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 03:55 PM
what is the profit range for the book store?
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Posted 28 January 2014 - 07:58 PM
If you wanna update your manual lists, look for items in that shop on jellyneo and sort by release date, that should give you the new items since the list was added.
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Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:53 AM
Wow thank you so much for all of these lists. =)
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:13 PM
Hey guys, some updated lists for you all. I keep profit low as I enjoy quantity and I contribute to clearing the stock of the shop.(Remove items at the bottom of the list as you see fit.)
Magic Shop ID 2, Profit ~1k and up.
Magic Shop 2.txt 22.39KB
33 downloads
Spoooooooooooky Foods ID 30, Profit ~1k and up.
Spooooky Foods 30.txt 2.28KB
10 downloads
Stamps Son ID 58, Profit ~1k and up.
Stamps Son 58.txt 7.43KB
18 downloads
To any beginners that may be using these lists, be careful with AB'ing at Magic Shop!!
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 08:19 PM
Thanks for all of the lists~
They're very helpful
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Posted 23 February 2014 - 03:10 PM
I've lurked and abused the help here for ages, time to give back. I'm willing to make any lists people may need. Please include desired profit range, specific shop ID, and whether you would like UB's.
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Posted 02 March 2014 - 03:18 PM
I hadn't played Neopets in years and finally decided ehh screw it see whats up. Forgot how tough it was to make any points ... so a HUGE thank you to all of you who have posted lists. I'm brand spankin new to this thing so my 10.5 year account may get iced, but I'm tryin to play it safe 
Again thank you and hopefully I can help when I get more knowledge goin
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 08:26 AM
I'm new to ab-ing. Can someone enlighten me the difference using a list as compared to the default item database method in ABrosia?
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:44 AM
Regular members use lists to choose their shops because only advanced and above can choose their shops without a list. Sometimes people may want Abrosia to buy certain items and not others so they compile a list to use for that.I'm new to ab-ing. Can someone enlighten me the difference using a list as compared to the default item database method in ABrosia?
Using a list may be faster than using the database (or so I've heard. I don't use lists).
Edited by Satsuki, 03 March 2014 - 10:45 AM.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:06 AM
@Satsuki By just using a test list with every morphing potion currently available, I was able to buy a junk item + a UB MP about 200ms quicker than normal.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:35 AM
@Satsuki By just using a test list with every morphing potion currently available, I was able to buy a junk item + a UB MP about 200ms quicker than normal.
Regular members use lists to choose their shops because only advanced and above can choose their shops without a list. Sometimes people may want Abrosia to buy certain items and not others so they compile a list to use for that.
Using a list may be faster than using the database (or so I've heard. I don't use lists).
This is to be expected, there is (probably) less work involved checking a user-defined list.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:52 AM
I have no idea how the database system works, but from what I can gather it seems like the checking of the online database + checking if the profit is above the set limit would take longer than scanning a preloaded list.
Edited by Kau, 04 March 2014 - 03:56 AM.
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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:57 AM
I have no idea how the database system works, but from what I can gather it seems like the checking of the online database + checking if the price is above the set limit would take longer than scanning a preloaded list.
I'm speculating (hopefully successfully @ShadowLink64 ) that Abrosia doesn't request the item database every time it refreshes in a shop (this would be far too slow), it requests item data at startup and then subsequent refreshes are checked against this already-downloaded (cached) data.
The reason using a manual list is quicker is probably just because the list is shorter
From a programming perspective, It's worth mentioning that 200ms is a very considerable difference when talking about comparing 2 lists of strings, so I wonder what else might be happening under the hood. 
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