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#101 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 02:16 PM

I'm going to be rude and have no inhibitions in saying so, but you've already reached the point of no return in Codex. Nothing you say will redeem you from what you said in the past. Stop saving whatever face you think you still have left to save and follow through completely.

 

It was the bologna taco thing wasn't it?



#102 arcanum

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 05:22 PM

This is a foreal, legit question... cause I'm curious and IMO it doesn't seem to be the way some are turning it into but also might just be me because I'm cis and dumb.

 

A friend of mine posted a FB status a day or two ago that said something about Chris Pratts perfect physique staring at him from a doritos bag but he is "pretty sure he builds huge crosses and has a problem with trans people" then goes on to say "I'll still watch your movie though."

I read the comments and others were like oooh yeah he is transphobic af, so I googled it and what I found was a video with him and JLaw going back and forth insulting each other. JLaw says something about taking two pepto before their sex scene and Chris says "During our sex scene, I felt your penis rub up against my leg." or something along those lines.

It seemed like a crude joke to me, but I feel like calling Chris Pratt transphobic is a stretch? Please correct me if I'm wrong, that is why I'm asking for input from you guys. I really wanted to comment on the status but I don't want to look like an a-hole because I am just not seeing it.



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Posted 27 May 2017 - 06:29 PM

It was the bologna taco thing wasn't it?

 

What?

 

I was referring to the posts you edited and status updates you deleted.



#104 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 07:03 PM

What?

 

I was referring to the posts you edited and status updates you deleted.

 

Oh. Yeah I do that a lot. I have a spaghetti regretti after posting sometimes because I don't think before I type. ha. 

 

 

This is a foreal, legit question... cause I'm curious and IMO it doesn't seem to be the way some are turning it into but also might just be me because I'm cis and dumb.

 

A friend of mine posted a FB status a day or two ago that said something about Chris Pratts perfect physique staring at him from a doritos bag but he is "pretty sure he builds huge crosses and has a problem with trans people" then goes on to say "I'll still watch your movie though."

I read the comments and others were like oooh yeah he is transphobic af, so I googled it and what I found was a video with him and JLaw going back and forth insulting each other. JLaw says something about taking two pepto before their sex scene and Chris says "During our sex scene, I felt your penis rub up against my leg." or something along those lines.

It seemed like a crude joke to me, but I feel like calling Chris Pratt transphobic is a stretch? Please correct me if I'm wrong, that is why I'm asking for input from you guys. I really wanted to comment on the status but I don't want to look like an a-hole because I am just not seeing it.

 

Seems more like he was joking. people are going to tell you that's transphobic because, that's just how the community is, personally. No, transphobia is an explicit hate act, not a joke that was in bad taste. Crude? Yeah. Literal discrimination? If she was actually trans that'd be pretty weird/bad. 



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 07:57 AM

Seems more like he was joking. people are going to tell you that's transphobic because, that's just how the community is, personally. No, transphobia is an explicit hate act, not a joke that was in bad taste. Crude? Yeah. Literal discrimination? If she was actually trans that'd be pretty weird/bad.

That was my thought exactly, but some guy replied to the dude saying it wasn't transphobic, that it was just crude, and he called him out like "if you're not trans, you can't say what is and isn't transphobic!"
I mostly just wanted an outside opinion, it didn't seem malicious on Chris' part at all or hateful or anything, I was just v confused. I also feel labeling someone "transphobic" because of that is a bit harsh.
Thanks for the response :)

#106 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 08:23 AM

That was my thought exactly, but some guy replied to the dude saying it wasn't transphobic, that it was just crude, and he called him out like "if you're not trans, you can't say what is and isn't transphobic!"
I mostly just wanted an outside opinion, it didn't seem malicious on Chris' part at all or hateful or anything, I was just v confused. I also feel labeling someone "transphobic" because of that is a bit harsh.
Thanks for the response :)

 

If you're cis you're allowed to have an opinion. People who shut you down like that aren't worth listening to. Having your genitals one way or another doesn't change what you're allowed to think. 



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:42 PM

If you're cis you're allowed to have an opinion.

If you're a human being you're allowed to have an opinion imho, however shitty that may be.

 

If you're a dog you can fuck right off tho.

 

Nah in all seriousness, I can't imagine Chris Pratt being transphobic. I would expect he might be a bit unschooled on the topic and people cope with unknown subjects by joking about it ignorantly. I do it all the time about various subjects, like anyone does, until I understand more about it. I sincerely dislike people who fight & scrutinize ignorant people like they are extremists. People can always learn, they just have to be shown the way. Welp that sounded way too biblical.



#108 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:54 PM

If you're a human being you're allowed to have an opinion imho, however shitty that may be.

 

If you're a dog you can fuck right off tho.

 

Nah in all seriousness, I can't imagine Chris Pratt being transphobic. I would expect he might be a bit unschooled on the topic and people cope with unknown subjects by joking about it ignorantly. I do it all the time about various subjects, like anyone does, until I understand more about it. I sincerely dislike people who fight & scrutinize ignorant people like they are extremists. People can always learn, they just have to be shown the way. Welp that sounded way too biblical.

 

fuk da cis uwu

 

But no, seriously I agree with you. his comment didn't seem intentionally malicious toward the trans community and I honestly don't think people should be so quick to label him. 



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:57 PM

How do you guys feel about dating and of course, have sex with a transgender? I know some people say they fall in love with people, not with genitals, but for you, genitals are fundamental?



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 01:41 PM

How do you guys feel about dating and of course, have sex with a transgender? I know some people say they fall in love with people, not with genitals, but for you, genitals are fundamental?

I have to say that for myself I'm not entirely sure. Right now I identify as a bisexual - I say right now because I used to firmly believe I was pan, but I haven't met a whole lot of people IRL that dont fit the binary and those I have met werent attractive to me at all, so I'm still unsure. I do enjoy trans porn, so sexually theres something to say for it. Idk. Supercoherent story.

But in general, I strongly believe I dont care about which genitals there are, but cant act like there arent significant differences.

#111 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:11 PM

How do you guys feel about dating and of course, have sex with a transgender? I know some people say they fall in love with people, not with genitals, but for you, genitals are fundamental?

 

I'm bi, but I don't really care what parts someone's got. So it doesn't matter to me really. 

 

I have preferences but trans people are A okay in my book



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Posted 28 May 2017 - 02:53 PM

I mean, I'm gay and sometimes I'm judged as superficial because I say I wouldn't have sex with a trans guy. The absence of a dick would be a deal breaker for me.
 
Even this famous trans guy here in Brazil, most of my friends says they'd be glad to have sex or date him, but even though I find him REALLY gorgeous, the feeling I catch is nowhere near as being horny.
 

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 03:41 PM

Don't take this the wrong way, but is demisexual often considered a real thing?

I've never openly identified as it, and I'm in no way certain that I am demisexual, and I am straight, but I kind of feel like demisexuality may apply to me...? But any time I see it mentioned (by someone else), everyone's reaction is always "Yeah... A lot of people only feel sexually attracted to people they care about. That's normal. You don't need to make it into a sexuality. Etc etc." And I partially agree...? But on the other hand, it seems like so many straight dudes would go after literally almost any decent girl and... That's not really me? I think?

No real specific question here, I'm just a little confused about demisexuality.

#114 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 03:59 PM

 

I mean, I'm gay and sometimes I'm judged as superficial because I say I wouldn't have sex with a trans guy. The absence of a dick would be a deal breaker for me.
 
Even this famous trans guy here in Brazil, most of my friends says they'd be glad to have sex or date him, but even though I find him REALLY gorgeous, the feeling I catch is nowhere near as being horny.
 

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I've never really been offended that people aren't attracted to me personally for being trans tbh.  It's not superficial. Just like you being gay isn't a choice, who and what you're attracted to isn't either. I've noticed most people who say that you have to be attracted to trans people are absolute hypocrites anyway. They're all about how your gender and sexuality isn't a choice, until it comes down to that. Why is that any different than other attractions? 

 

 

Don't take this the wrong way, but is demisexual often considered a real thing?

I've never openly identified as it, and I'm in no way certain that I am demisexual, and I am straight, but I kind of feel like demisexuality may apply to me...? But any time I see it mentioned (by someone else), everyone's reaction is always "Yeah... A lot of people only feel sexually attracted to people they care about. That's normal. You don't need to make it into a sexuality. Etc etc." And I partially agree...? But on the other hand, it seems like so many straight dudes would go after literally almost any decent girl and... That's not really me? I think?

No real specific question here, I'm just a little confused about demisexuality.

 

I'm not an expert on demisexuality. But I guess if that really is a thing I'd fit in that category myself. I don't really do sex stuff outside of relationships and unless I'm really attached. I think that's more of what society expects without it being true. Just because men (and women) jump at any chance they can doesn't mean it's what everyone has to feel or it's a new sexuality entirely. 

 

If it makes people feel more comfortable to label that feeling though, I'm not going to fight them on it. It honestly doesn't affect me. 



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 01:57 PM

I've never really been offended that people aren't attracted to me personally for being trans tbh.  It's not superficial. Just like you being gay isn't a choice, who and what you're attracted to isn't either. I've noticed most people who say that you have to be attracted to trans people are absolute hypocrites anyway. They're all about how your gender and sexuality isn't a choice, until it comes down to that. Why is that any different than other attractions? 

 

 

 

I'm not an expert on demisexuality. But I guess if that really is a thing I'd fit in that category myself. I don't really do sex stuff outside of relationships and unless I'm really attached. I think that's more of what society expects without it being true. Just because men (and women) jump at any chance they can doesn't mean it's what everyone has to feel or it's a new sexuality entirely. 

 

If it makes people feel more comfortable to label that feeling though, I'm not going to fight them on it. It honestly doesn't affect me. 

 

Perfect. Hit is right on the head. I have always been baffled by the people who say things.


Also, I have a question, and hopefully it doesn't make me look overly bigoted-- @Amethyst, on your profile, it says people are surprised to find out you are a dude, does that mean you have XY chromosomes? And then you said earlier you are trans, so you identify as female?Or did I mix that up? Or did I misinterpret the earlier post? Anyway, I just don't want to be offending anyone by using incorrect pronouns.

nd also, I appreciate this non-super-judgmental forum for questions. I feel like most online forums you can't ask anything without being attacked, which makes those of us with questions never get our questions answered. Then after a while I feel like it is too late to ask. Like when you have been talking to a person for a while, but still don't know their name. Thats a bad feeling



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 02:56 PM

I second what Kaddict says and also add my 'thanks for answering questions in a non judgemental manner'. Ever since Rupaul got dragged through the mud for just poking fun with the whole "she mail" thing I've laid low with my questions.



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 02:58 PM

Regardless of your specific sexuality, what parts of the human body (from both sexes, everything in between and beyond) besides the genitals that you find most attractive?


Chest and hair. I love silver/gray hair and I love a guy with a nice chest. Bonus points for chest hair!

#118 Guest_iCarly_*

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 03:00 PM

Perfect. Hit is right on the head. I have always been baffled by the people who say things.

Also, I have a question, and hopefully it doesn't make me look overly bigoted-- @Amethyst, on your profile, it says people are surprised to find out you are a dude, does that mean you have XY chromosomes? And then you said earlier you are trans, so you identify as female?Or did I mix that up? Or did I misinterpret the earlier post? Anyway, I just don't want to be offending anyone by using incorrect pronouns.

nd also, I appreciate this non-super-judgmental forum for questions. I feel like most online forums you can't ask anything without being attacked, which makes those of us with questions never get our questions answered. Then after a while I feel like it is too late to ask. Like when you have been talking to a person for a while, but still don't know their name. Thats a bad feeling

 

Yep, every time I ask that question I get no answer and I get accused of perpetuating violence against trans people (What the fuck.)

 

 

I'm female to male transgender. (Unfortunately I can't start transitioning until I move in with my girlfriend. My family's stupidly super religious and I can't really come out of the closet anywhere but online right now.)  I just really like female cartoon characters, and thus people usually assume since I usually center my profiles around them that I'm female too. No idea what my chromosomes are since they can be wonky sometimes. And I genuinely question if that plays a part in why I'm repulsed with what I was born as.  

 

Not really bigoted to ask though, I figured that'd come up at some point. 


I also forgot to add. I've always wanted a place where people could have civilized discussions about this sort of thing. 

 

Without one side or the other getting hostile about genuine questions. 



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 04:27 PM

Yep, every time I ask that question I get no answer and I get accused of perpetuating violence against trans people (What the fuck.)

 

 

I'm female to male transgender. (Unfortunately I can't start transitioning until I move in with my girlfriend. My family's stupidly super religious and I can't really come out of the closet anywhere but online right now.)  I just really like female cartoon characters, and thus people usually assume since I usually center my profiles around them that I'm female too. No idea what my chromosomes are since they can be wonky sometimes. And I genuinely question if that plays a part in why I'm repulsed with what I was born as.  

 

Not really bigoted to ask though, I figured that'd come up at some point. 


I also forgot to add. I've always wanted a place where people could have civilized discussions about this sort of thing. 

 

Without one side or the other getting hostile about genuine questions. 

Sweet! That helps me understand you a lot better actually. The interwebs can be a tough place to understand people sometimes.

Another question, do you get pressure to transition/not from your gf? Does she prefer one part over the other?



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 04:56 PM

Sweet! That helps me understand you a lot better actually. The interwebs can be a tough place to understand people sometimes.

Another question, do you get pressure to transition/not from your gf? Does she prefer one part over the other?

 

Nope, no pressure. She's always told me she doesn't care if I transition or not, and would support me either way. 



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Posted 29 May 2017 - 07:47 PM

Question for MSM (men who have sex with men): Are most MSM specific to either giving or receiving? And if that is the case, at what point does that come up in the relationship? And does that become a deal breaker if you find out that both of you are not down to receive?



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Posted 30 May 2017 - 01:00 AM

Question for MSM (men who have sex with men): Are most MSM specific to either giving or receiving? And if that is the case, at what point does that come up in the relationship? And does that become a deal breaker if you find out that both of you are not down to receive?

 

Most guys have preferences. If I'm looking for a quick bang then their preference is important, if I'm looking for a relationship then it is less important.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:09 PM

Most guys have preferences. If I'm looking for a quick bang then their preference is important, if I'm looking for a relationship then it is less important.

Like, when you are at a bar, or on a dating site, when and how does it come up? Buy him a drink, and then say you down to catch? Or does it come up later, when maybe talking about going further? I have always just been confused about how this convo happens

 

(I am mostly being sarcastic about the catching line tho)



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 06:49 PM

Like, when you are at a bar, or on a dating site, when and how does it come up? Buy him a drink, and then say you down to catch? Or does it come up later, when maybe talking about going further? I have always just been confused about how this convo happens

 

(I am mostly being sarcastic about the catching line tho)

It usually comes up within the first few sentences on Grindr lol 

 

It usually goes something like this:

P1: Hey sup?

P2: Not much

P1: Looking?

P2: Yeah you?

P1: Yeah top here 7c

P2: Vers bottom

P1: Come over



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:18 PM

It usually comes up within the first few sentences on Grindr lol 

 

It usually goes something like this:

P1: Hey sup?

P2: Not much

P1: Looking?

P2: Yeah you?

P1: Yeah top here 7c

P2: Vers bottom

P1: Come over

What does 7c mean?

 

7 inches?

c = circumcised ?

uc = uncircumcised?

 

Cryptography at its finest.




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