well at least we aren't being shut down.... we will be back once we get the server and stuff set up
NeoCodex Moving Servers
Started by ShadowLink64, Aug 31 2004 09:02 AM
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:22 AM
Well, that was unexpected for me- I never realised the problems DDOSing can cause for HOSTING. Not that I'm sure exactly what it is... well, hopefully we'll move smoothly, eh?
Well dosing is basically a overflow of packets attack =P
Denial Of Service =)
It sucks that you guys have to lose hosting over something as stupid as this...
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:23 AM
The hosting that we are moving to seems nice enough, if not nicer, updated firewalls, servers.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:28 AM
eMax doesn't seem like a really good service if they are cancelling you because of DOSing, mabey their servers really cant handle it.. 
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:35 AM
Ryan? Liquids? :angry2:It is not neo_grl who did this. She has done no illegal moves. It was someone else on NeoTwist I am not naming...
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:37 AM
Well it is unfortanate that it happened but I am sure we can piull through this no problemo. Wait a sec... this is going to disrupt the e-zine coming out!!!
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:39 AM
It's just the ti'me to care about the ezineWell it is unfortanate that it happened but I am sure we can piull through this no problemo. Wait a sec... this is going to disrupt the e-zine coming out!!!
SL, have balls, unmask that traitor!
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:42 AM
I have enough faith in the admins ability that I do get annoyed that such a thing as the e-zine will be disrupted. Not to mention that neocodex will be down for a bit.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:46 AM
I am not going to say who it is unless we absolutely need to say so. Don't make the situation worse.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:47 AM
Mystical is one big CENSORED piece of shit...Actaully I agree with his post, but I don't liek that fact he's leaning towards us for the blame and making neo_grl look like a fricken angel.
We've done that twice before and she's never dropped it.Neo_grl will happly drop any and all thoughts about codex and its members.
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ShadowLink64
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:48 AM
If you have nothing to say that is nice, don't say it at all please. 
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Silver Ecco
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:50 AM
Major 
Just like shadowlink said it. I think I know next months Angriest Member...
Just like shadowlink said it. I think I know next months Angriest Member...
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:50 AM
Oh right, I get it now Smeags. Thanks. 
And I'M upset about the potential E-Zine delay, Pyke. And getting to know whether I got into private membership or not... I'd rather know than be kept in the dark
but, meh. I've been a member for two months, a couple more days surely can't hurt me!
And I'M upset about the potential E-Zine delay, Pyke. And getting to know whether I got into private membership or not... I'd rather know than be kept in the dark
but, meh. I've been a member for two months, a couple more days surely can't hurt me!
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 10:59 AM
Its unecessary for members to know who dosed. That will only create escalating problems. I have faith that the staff is doing what is in their legal capability to combat further dos attempts.
Edited by Smeags, 31 August 2004 - 11:01 AM.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 11:57 AM
For... CENSORED.. SAKES... WHAT THE CENSORED REPORT THE MOTHERCENSORED RETARDED DOSIGN SON OFA CENSOREDES!
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 11:58 AM
Xeno, that wont get you anywhere but yet another suspension. Keep calm, we are doing what we can.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 11:59 AM
wtf report the dosing motherCENSOREDa whoever the CENSORED the CENSOREDer was
I weana see em go to jail
id piss on the person
I weana see em go to jail
id piss on the person
Edited by XenoCyde, 31 August 2004 - 12:00 PM.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:00 PM
For once I agree with you... thie CENSOREDer shall be reported!For... CENSORED.. SAKES... WHAT THE CENSORED REPORT THE MOTHERCENSORED RETARDED DOSIGN SON OFA CENSOREDES!
"To uphold cri'me and defeat justice", or however did this one go...
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:11 PM
They say that actions speak louder than words... so why won't someone just DO it?You ARENT helping.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:11 PM
Hopefully the sever will be as good hardware side and 10 ti'mes better support wise. I know they can't take DOS attacks, but it's not like you guys are sitting around doing nothing about it, your doing as much as 'good morale' allows. Not to bring up 'older' topics...
A DOS attack can flood any major data center if the attack is big enough. Regardless what host it is, if your site has a history of DOS then you won't find stable hosting for long.
Yeah, only 19 hours.. what did they give you 24 hour notice, if so that's BS...
It takes only minutes to find a host. I have attempted to offer every resource to move this site to a new host without ANY downti'me. I would like to know why it's BS that one site must reap havoc on hundreds of our clients? Are you willing to pay more per month to staff the server and continuously run blockage on IPTABLES as each IP comes in with floods of request to the server?
We have offered to forward DNS from our servers (which still routes all traffic) to the new host which lowers downti'me to only minutes.
The hosting that we are moving to seems nice enough, if not nicer, updated firewalls, servers.
We run floodgaurd at the data center along side firewalls that use a DDOS database to block out IPs that flood the network. No company will be able to offer you what you need with these forums "war" games that are going on with you and another site.
eMax doesn't seem like a really good service if they are canceling you because of DOSing, mabey their servers really cant handle it..
We run only Dual Zeons in hyper-threading mode with 2 GIGS of RAM. All servers run dual hard drives as-well. You won't find better server out there.
The point in me posting is to set everyone straight. It is not our companies fault this situation has happened. We service over 700+ domains and have a 98% approval rating from our clients. It is in the best interest of our company to cut all ties with this site. Is this our fault because we are protecting our other clients? No absolutely not.
Before continuously trashing our company keep in mind we have every right to cut service to this site at anyti'me but instead we have chosen not to. We have chosen to work with the client and help them move.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:12 PM
Our host, eMax Hosting has just informed Hydrogen that they are cancelling our hosting deal due to a dDOS attack that was brought upon us earlier on. They made it clear that they do not want a site that will si'mply get attacked all the ti'me. Thus, we are moving servers. We will still reside at www.neocodex.us, but we are moving to a different host.
Hydrogen,
We never clai'med "you" were doing DDoS attacks. The statement was "history of DDOS attacks" which refereed to your website as being a target of such actions. The slander on your website about another group/web site/person is against our TOS/AUP and only causes issues.
You say "I am being punished for something I have not done" but what about our other hundreds of clients who are on the same server but may experience slow load ti'mes because your site is being attacked because there is a personal issue with your site and another. Should they pay? Should we spend many more hours of support ti'me to defend the mass amounts of traffic being ported to your site?
Providing DDos support for a website cost a lot more than $5.95 a month. I apologies but our decision is finial. As explained in the last e-mail we are willing to forward your DNS I'mmediately to help lower the possible downti'me when you find another host.
If you have any other questions please feel free to reply. Thank you.
Regards,
eMax Client Support
Pack up your things, because we are moving
We already know who attacked us using dDOS methods, and we will investigate this further.
no duh it was ntwist/neo grl
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:12 PM
If all turns well, we are going to have to, No hosting service is helping - This DoSer is sending packets so huge that the servers are being ripped to shreds.
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Posted 31 August 2004 - 12:14 PM
eMax arent prepared to take legal action, either.
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