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[Inver]

Found this on Karoline Leach's website, author of In the Shadow of Dreamchild - a book made to sort through the controversial issue you two are talking about.

"The idea that Lewis Carroll was pedophilic, in desire if not in action, developed from both a lack of awareness of what has been called the Victorian Child Cult and the belief that he had no interest in adult relationships and focused all his energies on what he called his 'child friends'. This belief - which was totally untrue - arose principally from the fact that his first biographer, his nephew Stuart Collingwooddeliberately suppressed the evidence for his uncle's relationships with women. In the late 19th C, there was little conception of pedophilia, and a man associating with children was considered to be 'innocent' and saintly. To promote this image, his nephew manipulated the evidence and even implied that many of the women Carroll associated with were actually 'child-friends'. This was accepted unquestioningly by subsequent biographers, and even developed further, with almost no regard for the actual evidence."

http://carrollmyth.com/

[Bryan]

Take it easy. That was just an anecdote that I remembered because we were arguing about the guy...

All I can offer is my opinion...but what do you have that's so concrete?

I gave you a website and a book. Need you more?

Found this on Karoline Leach's website, author of In the Shadow of Dreamchild - a book made to sort through the controversial issue you two are talking about.

"The idea that Lewis Carroll was pedophilic, in desire if not in action, developed from both a lack of awareness of what has been called the Victorian Child Cult and the belief that he had no interest in adult relationships and focused all his energies on what he called his 'child friends'. This belief - which was totally untrue - arose principally from the fact that his first biographer, his nephew Stuart Collingwooddeliberately suppressed the evidence for his uncle's relationships with women. In the late 19th C, there was little conception of pedophilia, and a man associating with children was considered to be 'innocent' and saintly. To promote this image, his nephew manipulated the evidence and even implied that many of the women Carroll associated with were actually 'child-friends'. This was accepted unquestioningly by subsequent biographers, and even developed further, with almost no regard for the actual evidence."

Thanks for the excerpt, but I already posted this before we even started arguing.

[Inver]

I gave you a website and a book. Need you more?



Thanks for the excerpt, but I already posted this before we even started arguing.

Man. I just realized that. Dur. For what it's worth, I'm on your side. It's always fun to believe in crazy myths, but with undeniable proof like that you can't take them seriously any more.

[Melchoire]

I gave you a website and a book. Need you more?



Thanks for the excerpt, but I already posted this before we even started arguing.

Meh, I still think he liked little girls...

[Whyumad]

I'll never let you sweep me off my feet.

[Inver]

Meh, I still think he liked little girls...

Okay. And scientologists believe in the alien overlord Xenu. Congratulations for finding your very own false ideal to cherish.

[Melchoire]

Okay. And scientologists believe in the alien overlord Xenu. Congratulations for finding your very own false ideal to cherish.

Lol, seriously?

[Inver]

Lol, seriously?

For realsies.

[Melchoire]

For realsies.

Then, thanks, I guess...

[PeonYourLawn]

was scrolling through pages looking for more quotes to add to my page ....but then i just saw walls of text

[jaredennisclark]

Meh, I still think he liked little girls...

Defying the evidence and reasoning shown to you for no good reason. Nice.

was scrolling through pages looking for more quotes to add to my page ....but then i just saw walls of text

What exactly does this have to do with the topic at hand?

[PeonYourLawn]

What exactly does this have to do with the topic at hand?

Exactly what those walls of text had to do

God you are so cute you know that I bet your mom still tucks you in

[jaredennisclark]

Exactly what those walls of text had to do

Your post had nothing to do with Lewis Carroll's being a pedophile.

Edited by jaredennisclark, 13 December 2010 - 01:59 AM.

[PeonYourLawn]

Your post had nothing to do with Lewis Carroll's being a pedophile.

And those posts are on topic as well?

[Melchoire]

Defying the evidence and reasoning shown to you for no good reason. Nice.

There is a good reason. He photographed naked little girls.

[DanDoesWork]

Tramp stamp (: what else would stick out

[Seaner]

Your post had nothing to do with Lewis Carroll's being a pedophile.

and discussing whether or not Lewis Carroll was a pedo is a far cry from tattoo quote ideas.

Edited by Seaner, 14 December 2010 - 05:01 PM.

[Jake]

Was actually thinking of the sun/moon/star thing as a tramp stamp, but after months of contemplating the issue, i've decided on middle upper back. Close enough. I have enough sexy to make up for no tramp stamp.

Good enough, kudos for that even. If I get tattoos there will be one spread across my whole back and one on my right arm.

[PeonYourLawn]

and discussing whether or not Lewis Carroll was a pedo is a far cry from tattoo quote ideas.

lol jakes on him bro

Good enough, kudos for that even. If I get tattoos there will be one spread across my whole back and one on my right arm.

Mine will be on my right pec. I just dont have anything good to put

[Whyumad]

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I haven't been able to deal
Since the day that I lost you.

Now these roses bleed red
And these violets cry blue
I think of you in memories
Do you think of me too?

[Inver]

I thought we had wrapped up the pedo conversation. On to greener pastures folks!

In effort to stay on topic, my friend just got "my aim is true" tattooed across his hand and it looks freaking awesome. Though I'm not one for quote tattoos, it's the best one I've seen so far.

[Arshark]

I plan to get a super man emblem on my forearm

[Whyumad]

I plan to get a super man emblem on my forearm

Kryptonyte should be on your other arm just for lols.. you can have an epic battle.

[Arshark]

Kryptonyte should be on your other arm just for lols.. you can have an epic battle.

I'd randomly start punchin myself

[Jakerz]

I was thinking of getting one that says "Viva La Vida" but it seems so unoriginal.. I don't know, that's the motto of my life past few months lol.