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[Nearx]

I posted on my status not too long ago that I've got two wolfdogs now. Couple people requested pics so here they are:

HiXael at 3 months old when I first got him










HiXael at 7 months old









Snow. 5 week old Arctic Wolf (Just got her a few nights ago and only have pics of her on my phone right now)




Their Family (Where I got Xael & Snow)

Jojo (Joan of Ark cause she has a little white cross on her chest) - Xael's mommy



Older wolves. Lobo (all the way right) is Xael's brother from another litter



Other Wolf mixes




Timber. Xael's brother from the same litter




Random Wolves



Three random Arctic's that are being dog sat here



The Timbers that Xael grew up with. His daddy is alpha of them and somewhere in there. He hid mostly cause he was injured a bit and still healing



Brother & Sister Timbers. We almost got one of these two before we chose Xael




A white Timber Wolf


Jet. Wolfdog found at the pound by the owner of all these guys. Not sure how much wolf content is in him though


Yona. Snow's Grandfather




Two other arctics that live with Yona. I THINK one of these two are Snow's mother but not 100% sure on that

Edited by Yukixx, 29 December 2010 - 08:36 PM.

[yoongguk]

They are so gorgeous! Especially Snow

What sort of personalities/temperaments do they have? Are they hard work?

[Nearx]

Thank you
Snow is a little beauty

Well, their attention span is that of a 2 week old baby I swear! They're loyal and very good dogs (not recommended for anyone JUMPING into wanting to own them though at all. I've been researching and studying these guys since I was 8) but they're butt heads at times. Xael, when we walk him, has to pick up EVERYTHING he sees. He LOVES pinecones for some reason. they're impossible to /train/ but you can teach them.
Like with Xael, he knows sit and stay but I can't train him to do it on command. But how I taught him was that he got a treat when he sat when i told him to so now he thinks that if someone has something he wants all he has to do is sit and he'll get it. It comes in handy since I make him 'sit' and 'stay' before he gets his food so he's good with that, but he will not sit on command.
I have sort of house broken him to an extent. If I dont get him outside asap when he's gotta go, he'll just do it in the house. He chases the cats tryiing to play with them and loves to snack in the litter box (yuck...). Snow does too =/

Snow on the other hand, cries and howls when she has to go potty. Wait too long and she goes on our bed -sigh-
Other than that, so far she's been pretty good. She's A LOT more vocal than Xael and Xael JUST picked up howling but he hardly ever yips, barks, or anything. She does just cause she can lol
She tries to get into everything... Has to be taken out to go potty like every 10 minutes cause of how much damned water they both drink. Basically, with Snow its like having a new born baby. Matt and I hardly get any sleep at night and she's too small right now to be outside, specially with Xael who knows what she is and wants to clobber her out of excitement.
She thinks she's little miss prissy though too. She snips and growls at Xael and holds herself high around him lol. She acts like that for a lot of things though

Edited by Yukixx, 29 December 2010 - 05:37 PM.

[yoongguk]

Thank you
Snow is a little beauty

Well, their attention span is that of a 2 week old baby I swear! They're loyal and very good dogs (not recommended for anyone JUMPING into wanting to own them though at all. I've been researching and studying these guys since I was 8) but they're butt heads at times. Xael, when we walk him, has to pick up EVERYTHING he sees. He LOVES pinecones for some reason. they're impossible to /train/ but you can teach them.
Like with Xael, he knows sit and stay but I can't train him to do it on command. But how I taught him was that he got a treat when he sat when i told him to so now he thinks that if someone has something he wants all he has to do is sit and he'll get it. It comes in handy since I make him 'sit' and 'stay' before he gets his food so he's good with that, but he will not sit on command.
I have sort of house broken him to an extent. If I dont get him outside asap when he's gotta go, he'll just do it in the house. He chases the cats tryiing to play with them and loves to snack in the litter box (yuck...). Snow does too =/

Snow on the other hand, cries and howls when she has to go potty. Wait too long and she goes on our bed -sigh-
Other than that, so far she's been pretty good. She's A LOT more vocal than Xael and Xael JUST picked up howling but he hardly ever yips, barks, or anything. She does just cause she can lol
She tries to get into everything... Has to be taken out to go potty like every 10 minutes cause of how much damned water they both drink. Basically, with Snow its like having a new born baby. Matt and I hardly get any sleep at night and she's too small right now to be outside, specially with Xael who knows what she is and wants to clobber her out of excitement.
She thinks she's little miss prissy though too. She snips and growls at Xael and holds herself high around him lol. She acts like that for a lot of things though

Aww! They sound like so much fun! I love strange little habits dogs have like the pinecone thing! Our last dog we had LOVED picking up shells (we live near a shore so we took him for walks down there) He picked up a shell any time we walked past one. He'd take one home every now and again and just leave them in his kennel - he had quite the collection.

They sound like a handful but I'd say they're great company to have around at the same time. We're looking into getting a new dog for the family and everyone wants a different type of dog. Mum wants a Cavalier King Charles. Dad wants a Collie. My brother wants a Terrier. I want an Irish Red Setter, though. They're my favourite breed of dog - so pretty!

[Nearx]

They're awesome company. I've never felt so much love from an animal and they have quite the way of showing it. But yes, they're definately a handful and a HUGE responsibility and commitment. These guys can't be torn away from those they are bonded to so once you get one your stuck till either you or s/he dies.
I've heard of stories where people have rehomed their wolfdogs when they're older and they starved themselves to death.

The lady I got these two from got in two wolfdogs (a brother and sister to each other). Well the sister got out of her kennel and would walk around the outside of the property but never step foot onto it and Bear, her brother, would call and cry and howl to her trying to get her to come back but she never did so he eventually starved himself. They tried burrying him but wolves have a tendency to unburry the dead and lay on them as a pity thing like "I'm sorry you died...." so that's what I got to see the first time I was up there. They have quite a few wolves running around the property that just stick around and hang out and don't leave it

My family had a setter once and told me he walked like he was drunk lol. They're are very pretty dogs though

[yoongguk]

They're awesome company. I've never felt so much love from an animal and they have quite the way of showing it. But yes, they're definately a handful and a HUGE responsibility and commitment. These guys can't be torn away from those they are bonded to so once you get one your stuck till either you or s/he dies.
I've heard of stories where people have rehomed their wolfdogs when they're older and they starved themselves to death.

The lady I got these two from got in two wolfdogs (a brother and sister to each other). Well the sister got out of her kennel and would walk around the outside of the property but never step foot onto it and Bear, her brother, would call and cry and howl to her trying to get her to come back but she never did so he eventually starved himself. They tried burrying him but wolves have a tendency to unburry the dead and lay on them as a pity thing like "I'm sorry you died...." so that's what I got to see the first time I was up there. They have quite a few wolves running around the property that just stick around and hang out and don't leave it

My family had a setter once and told me he walked like he was drunk lol. They're are very pretty dogs though

Aww, that's really sad But it's nice as well (in a way...) It's like Swans - once they find their partner they're partners for life. I've heard of (even seen on TV) Swans dying "of a broken heart" once their partners died. Whether that's the cause of death - I don't know. It could be loneliness or they could be starving themselves like the wolfdogs. Its all very like the story of Anthony and Cleopatra (just the ending of the story, though )

Like he was drunk?! Hahah! I'm trying to picture that in my head
My uncle used to have one and I just adored her! She was so playful and really gentle. I can't wait until we get a new dog - I'm sure we'll all love it whatever breed it is. Its so hard to not like dogs!

[Nearx]

A lot of animals are that way
Bearded Dragons are too. Though, you can distract them in a way. Like if you put them with another beardie after their mate dies you can usually get them to live still. We almost ran into that though. Our female died and our male was left alone so we had to give him away to someone who had another beardie in hopes that he'd be fine and be able to live without her. Im sure he did though cause we never got a call back or anything

Yeah drunk lol. Like sideways sorta. He wouldn't walk straight
It is hard not to like em. Matt was more of a cat person when he met me but I'm a total dog lover so now we've got two wolves and one cat but he's falling in absolute love with Snow. He used to have a huge HUGE anger problem but I've been working with him on it and he's gotten better. But she's done more than I have alone in just a few days. Things that he'd normall throw a fit over he calmly takes care of. Like her waking him up at 3am, peeing the bed, and then screaming and howling at him to play with her. He took care of it without getting mad at all. They are definately miracle workers and I honestly think she's doing some good for him

[Turtleboy]

Wow! Congrats on your wolf (I didn't even know people owned wolves haha). They look really really cute.
Will they ever be domesticated, or are they still going to have that little wild streak in them?
What do you even feed these guys? Dog food or do you buy raw meat or something?

Wolves sound so loyal. I guess you have to stick with them til one of you dies ha. Is it a big problem if you try to move? Do they adapt well to the move or is it going to mess with their heads as well?

I always wanted a pet dog, one of those huge ones (not that I'm even prepared to handle all the responsibilities that come with) but my sister is allergic to fur She gets anywhere near one and she starts coughing/sneezing up a storm. Not to mention she's scared of animals as well.

EDIT:
What in the world is a bearded dragon?

Edited by Turtleboy, 29 December 2010 - 06:24 PM.

[yoongguk]

A lot of animals are that way
Bearded Dragons are too. Though, you can distract them in a way. Like if you put them with another beardie after their mate dies you can usually get them to live still. We almost ran into that though. Our female died and our male was left alone so we had to give him away to someone who had another beardie in hopes that he'd be fine and be able to live without her. Im sure he did though cause we never got a call back or anything

Yeah drunk lol. Like sideways sorta. He wouldn't walk straight
It is hard not to like em. Matt was more of a cat person when he met me but I'm a total dog lover so now we've got two wolves and one cat but he's falling in absolute love with Snow. He used to have a huge HUGE anger problem but I've been working with him on it and he's gotten better. But she's done more than I have alone in just a few days. Things that he'd normall throw a fit over he calmly takes care of. Like her waking him up at 3am, peeing the bed, and then screaming and howling at him to play with her. He took care of it without getting mad at all. They are definately miracle workers and I honestly think she's doing some good for him

Aww, I hope he lived on
A horse at the riding centre I used to go to would never walk straight and I was landed with him one day for dressage Needless to say, I didn't do very well that day.

It's funny how pets can bring out the best in people! That's really good, though Any progress is good progress, right?

Wow! Congrats on your wolf (I didn't even know people owned wolves haha). They look really really cute.
Will they ever be domesticated, or are they still going to have that little wild streak in them?
What do you even feed these guys? Dog food or do you buy raw meat or something?

Wolves sound so loyal. I guess you have to stick with them til one of you dies ha. Is it a big problem if you try to move? Do they adapt well to the move or is it going to mess with their heads as well?

I always wanted a pet dog, one of those huge ones (not that I'm even prepared to handle all the responsibilities that come with) but my sister is allergic to fur She gets anywhere near one and she starts coughing/sneezing up a storm. Not to mention she's scared of animals as well.

EDIT:
What in the world is a bearded dragon?

I'm allergic to them as well, but I'm not half as bad as I used to be. I built up a slight immunity to the danders their fur gives off when our family got a pet dog - I was constantly sneezing/getting itchy for the first few months. It eased off though. I just took antihistamines most of the time if it got bad
You can also get hypoallergenic dogs/cats that don't get off any danders. People who are allergic to animals can get hypoallergenic pets and not have any problems with them!

These are bearded dragons

[Nearx]

Thank you
Yeah people own them, just very few people and usually only those who have a lot of land. We will be moving to about a 1 acre property here hopefully soon (maybe even 5 acre) but even here we have a very large backyard.

They have a wild streak in them, but you can tell they're domesticated more and more as the generations go on in their family and they become further away from their wild ancestors. They're like dogs but they act like wolves. I dont know how to explain it better lol. Like they howl, they hunt... Umm... Everything a wolf does basically. I find it easier to read wolves than I do dogs. I watch Xael and I know what every motion means. Everything they do is so different from dogs but it means the same thing. You can totally tell who he knows and likes and respects in this house vs those he really doesn't know and is a little weary of. You can pick out who is what rank just by how Xael acts around them. He has placed Matt and I as his alphas with him considered as beta. Our Jindo is a rank lower than him. One guy in this house that I live with is Omega. A complete stranger to Xael and he will not associate with him less he has to. You can tell what they're thinking like clock work.
Snow will be chewing on one of her toys but staring at Matt's feet while he's on the computer and you can see the whole plan run through her head. "I'm gonna chew on this till they stop watching me.... Then I'll pounce those things!" and she totally does it like that too. They're extremely easy to read. Xael learned how to open our SLIDING GLASS DOOR (not just a regular door) at three months old. They mimic those they follow and consider their leaders and most cherished. When they really want something they'll watch you and learn how you get it and they'll copy you when you aren't looking.

We feed them normal dog food. I've been feeding them Ol' Roy High Preformance They get meat every now and then, once in a blue moon, as a treat though.

They're very loyal. Once I had Xael inside the house and he ran into the living room. I was in the next two rooms over and I figured he'd be fine in the living room alone. Bout 10 minutes later I havne't heard a thing from him the whole time so I go to check on him and the front door was left open. I'm freaking out as I run outside worried out of my mind. Here he comes from our front lawn bounding towards me with that look like, "Hey mom! I was waiting for you to join me on our walk!" lol
Even at 3 months old when I FIRST got him, the first few days I was able to walk down Main Street (A little shopping center where I live) with him following behind no leash. Snow does the same thing now. She absolutely ADORES Matt.

They'll adapt to moving of course. Timbers have a harder time with ANYTHING that changes though and you can tell when somethings up or something is gonna happen if you watch when they go to the bathroom. If one little thing changes they'll get the runs sorta. It just makes them uneasy but they eventually adjust just fine to it.

Aw I'm sorry D=
I'm sure you will be able to have a dog eventually
If you want a very large dog there's a specialized breed people are trying to keep going called the Giant Malamute. They're HUGE!
Here's what I found just searching google



I believe this was a 6 week old puppy. I can't remember the exact age


And this is a bearded dragon
If you've ever seen the movie "Holes" they use these guys as that "poisonous lizard". They really aren't poisonous though





Yeah any progress is good
He used to be in the Army but never got therapy. I was gonna get him to start going when we got up the money but this works just as well!

Edited by Yukixx, 29 December 2010 - 06:47 PM.

[flashraven]

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OH MY GOSH SNOW <3 Rep rep rep!

Not to mention HiXael looked awesome at some angles (he seems fierce when he's like staring at you :|)

Edited by flashraven, 29 December 2010 - 06:51 PM.

[Nearx]

Lmao! Xael isn't 'fierce' at all but thank you
He's a big love ball. The only time he's fierce is if another dog comes near his food. But God forbid mommy comes take it cause then he starts vaccuuming up his food in a rush before I can grab it lol
But he's very protective of his food. He even growled at Snow over some bread he found on a walk the other night =/ Otherwise, he's just a lover and will /literally/ love you to death if you let him

If you are talking bout this pic as a "he looks fierce" one

he was actually just looking at me like "Can you put the phone down and take me for a walk now?!"

He gets sooooo upset if I don't take him for a walk at least once a day. He'll start slamming himself against the sliding glass door to get my attention till I take him lol

Edited by Yukixx, 29 December 2010 - 07:02 PM.

[flashraven]

Lmao! Xael isn't 'fierce' at all but thank you
He's a big love ball. The only time he's fierce is if another dog comes near his food. But God forbid mommy comes take it cause then he starts vaccuuming up his food in a rush before I can grab it lol
But he's very protective of his food. He even growled at Snow over some bread he found on a walk the other night =/ Otherwise, he's just a lover and will /literally/ love you to death if you let him

If you are talking bout this pic as a "he looks fierce" one

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he was actually just looking at me like "Can you put the phone down and take me for a walk now?!"

He gets sooooo upset if I don't take him for a walk at least once a day. He'll start slamming himself against the sliding glass door to get my attention till I take him lol

Haha good to know, maybe it's just the white fur around his eyes that made him looked fierce. But i realised Xael has nice eyes and a long coolish-looking tail!

It's normal for some dogs to be overprotective over their food...natural instinct, or it could be the one of the characteristics of this species group I guess! And you better not give in to much to his requests, as he might grow up to be quite domineering! Haha.

Edited by flashraven, 29 December 2010 - 07:16 PM.

[Mr. Hobo]

Asked for pics wasn't expecting 3 dozens . Awesome wolves.

Do you think any more progress will be made with house breaking them?
How much more expensive are they than dogs?

One guy in this house that I live with is Omega.

Poor guy. Do the wolves try to like push him around? How'd he end up as being omega?

[Salamanda]

When are you going to learn?
Arctics dont start turning white until 3 months+, they are born gray or brown, sometimes even black. Ears are UP by 3 weeks.

As for HiXael, he also has little to no wolf too. His skull has an odd shape, almost as if a result from inbreeding, his eyes are way offset. Why do you keep going back to these backyard breeders? Those dogs are nothing but misrepresentations, those 'arctics' are white wooly malamutes. All they have are agouti or 'wolf grey' colored huskies bred with the occasional shepherd (hence the ears) and malamute. They arent even Tamaskans or Sarloos.

REAL Arctic Wolfdog. This one is barely considered a high content. It has slightly more wolf than dog and look how 'wolfy' it still is.

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Real 4 month old wolfdog. Notice the size, the ears, the blended coat, NO white tail tip whatsoever.




And your feeding your dogs OL ROY?! SERIOUSLY?! If your pups had wolf like you claim, they wouldnt be able to handle that food, it would massacre their stomachs,their growth will be seriously hindered and their coats will be horribly thin. Your dogs would be sick, plain and simple.

People like you astound me, I had no idea the human race can continue to be so ignorant.

[Nearx]

Haha good to know, maybe it's just the white fur around his eyes that made him looked fierce. But i realised Xael has nice eyes and a long coolish-looking tail!

It's normal for some dogs to be overprotective over their food...natural instinct, or it could be the one of the characteristics of this species group I guess! And you better not give in to much to his requests, as he might grow up to be quite domineering! Haha.

lol
Its in his species as well. Higher rank eats first basically and has the right to protect what food is theirs. He used to be lower ranked than our Jindo when we first got him. He'd go over to eat her food and she'd snap at him and he'd run tail between legs. But now, I learned the hard way that if she doesn't have her food in a bowl (Sometimes her food is on the floor) Xael will go over and attack her for it. But when its in a bowl and there aren't any straying food pieces, he just leaves her alone. She backs down now too. She usually used to put up a fight but now she doesn't.

lol I know
He's spoiled but to an extent. Alpha still has rules

Asked for pics wasn't expecting 3 dozens . Awesome wolves.

Do you think any more progress will be made with house breaking them?
How much more expensive are they than dogs?



Poor guy. Do the wolves try to like push him around? How'd he end up as being omega?

I'm sure. I just haven't pushed it much into him honestly.
Breeders normally charge over a thousand for a pup. I never turn to BYB's so yeah, they're pricy.
Not so much. Omega prolly isn't the right term but he's completely ignored. Normally Xael will follow anyone who goes outside but he acts as if that guy isn't even there. But then again, so do we. No one likes him =/



I never did mention their content. You assumed I was speaking on terms of high content

Hmm, funny

6 - 8 week old WILD pure arctic wolf pups
They look pretty white to me. Brown tint but that's what Snow has too. Just doesn't show up on my phone
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I also just watched a documentary where there were 3 arctic wolf pups and two parents. The pups were white as can be and still VERY young. Bout 2 months old. Around the same age as Snow

I've also NEVER bought from a backyard breeder. The 'wolfdog' I had before was given to me as a rescue. He needed a home and I wanted a dog. Never paid for him and didn't know the FULL background history on him.
The pics of Xael are goofy pics at weird angles. I couldn't get ANY good pics of him while he was a little pup so all those pics make him look funny and make his head look misshaped. In person he never once looked so though. Same as now. He always takes goofy pics and I have never gotten ONE decent picture of him yet. He moves way too much.
I also don't see the point of bringing up the 'tail tip'. Xael has no white tail tip and also, like that dog, has a black tail tip and ears much like if not exactly like that one in the pic. Same color either. Same coat pattern too and blendedness. Weird
But honestly, I'm not starting a bitch fit over this. You can come see him in person yourself, because those pics don't make him look right at all or even make him look how he looks in real life.

Edited by Yukixx, 29 December 2010 - 08:24 PM.

[Salamanda]

lol
Its in his species as well. Higher rank eats first basically and has the right to protect what food is theirs. He used to be lower ranked than our Jindo when we first got him. He'd go over to eat her food and she'd snap at him and he'd run tail between legs. But now, I learned the hard way that if she doesn't have her food in a bowl (Sometimes her food is on the floor) Xael will go over and attack her for it. But when its in a bowl and there aren't any straying food pieces, he just leaves her alone. She backs down now too. She usually used to put up a fight but now she doesn't.

lol I know
He's spoiled but to an extent. Alpha still has rules




I'm sure. I just haven't pushed it much into him honestly.
Breeders normally charge over a thousand for a pup. I never turn to BYB's so yeah, they're pricy.
Not so much. Omega prolly isn't the right term but he's completely ignored. Normally Xael will follow anyone who goes outside but he acts as if that guy isn't even there. But then again, so do we. No one likes him =/



I never did mention their content

Hmm, funny

6 - 8 week old WILD pure arctic wolf pups
They look pretty white to me.

Funny how that still looks nothing like your puppy. Arctics are born dark, plain and simple. I can guarantee your pup wasnt born dark, 100% positive.
What ever happened to that rescued low content malamute/wolf you had that you couldnt handle? Was he euthanized or was a proper home found?

Look at the pups coats, they arent pure white. They have black tips and an orange/brown undertone. Arctics also have purple toenails, yours has clear, im sure. Not even white phase timbers are born pure white.

But the fact that your pups werent born in the right time frame is a dead giveaway anyways. Pups are only born in early spring, period.

Mind stating your pups contents so other people know your talking about a dog and not a wolf as you keep saying?

Edited by Salamanda, 29 December 2010 - 08:15 PM.

[DanDoesWork]

Wow what adorable pup pics! how old are they exactly?

[Nearx]

Funny how that still looks nothing like your puppy. Arctics are born dark, plain and simple. I can guarantee your pup wasnt born dark, 100% positive.
What ever happened to that rescued low content malamute/wolf you had that you couldnt handle? Was he euthanized or was a proper home found?

Look at the pups coats, they arent pure white. They have black tips and an orange/brown undertone. Arctics also have purple toenails, yours has clear, im sure. Not even white phase timbers are born pure white.

But the fact that your pups werent born in the right time frame is a dead giveaway anyways. Pups are only born in early spring, period.

Mind stating your pups contents so other people know your talking about a dog and not a wolf as you keep saying?

Again, when did I mention their content?
Proper home was found why would you even think he was euthanized? Am I now being labeled as a dog killer by you?

And again why I mentioned that yes, they have brown tints, but here's what I added in so does Snow it just doesn't show up on my phone!
My bad then, I'll be sure to mention WOLFDOG. I figured mentioning it once is good enough so I can keep it short to wolf or dog or whatever. And actually, no I just checked her nails. They sure as hell aren't clear o.O

But the fact that your pups werent born in the right time frame is a dead giveaway anyways. Pups are only born in early spring, period.

And again, this comes back to how I never mentioned their content and how you keep assuming they're UBER SUPER ULTRA HIGH CONTENT =/

Wow what adorable pup pics! how old are they exactly?

Thank you
Xael is approx. 7 - 8 months. Snow is bout 5 weeks

But either or, I'm done with debate talk. Please keep assuming to yourself but keep it off this board less I mention something along the lines in question. I'm not gonna start a whole little fight over this.

[Salamanda]

Again, when did I mention their content?
Proper home was found why would you even think he was euthanized? Am I now being labeled as a dog killer by you?

And again why I mentioned that yes, they have brown tints, but here's what I added in so does Snow it just doesn't show up on my phone!
My bad then, I'll be sure to mention WOLFDOG. I figured mentioning it once is good enough so I can keep it short to wolf or dog or whatever. And actually, no I just checked her nails. They sure as hell aren't clear o.O


And again, this comes back to how I never mentioned their content and how you keep assuming they're UBER SUPER ULTRA HIGH CONTENT =/

Why wouldnt you mention your dogs content when talking about wolfdogs? You need to learn to be a responsible wolfdog owner, as I've stated previously.
Every person who has seen your dogs now thinks they too can own a WD, and obtain one from a shitty breeder none the less.
And no, your puppy does not have Arctic coloring, no matter what you say. Show me bonafide fucking proof of its nails and birthdate and ill take back everything ive said and everything ive learned from my years working with pure wolves and wolfdogs of every content.


These clearly have arctic wolf in them, right? Or some kind of wolf?


So what content are your puppies and what have you been telling people in real life and elsewhere on the internet, huh?
And the Ol Roy situation? Dont tell me you cant afford a proper diet and yet have 2 puppies. Not even a normal domestic dog should be fed that shit.

But either or, I'm done with debate talk. Please keep assuming to yourself but keep it off this board less I mention something along the lines in question. I'm not gonna start a whole little fight over this.

And absolutely not, why the fuck would I let you damage everything I've fought so hard to get across to people for almost my entire life?
You tried to get wolfdogs because you thought they were 'cool' and 'pretty' and 'spiritual' or some bullshit like that, your a fucking joke.

[Nearx]

Why wouldnt you mention your dogs content when talking about wolfdogs?

There's no point to on THESE forums seeing how you seem to be the only one besides Matt and I on here who are interested in these animals. Why do I have to mention their content where it doesn't matter? If I was talking on Wolfdog forums or Wolf forums or Dog forums or talking to someone about my dogs and the convo was very important then YES, I'd mention their content. But here it is not needed.

Every person who has seen your dogs now thinks they too can own a WD, and obtain one from a shitty breeder none the less.

And yet in every thread I post I mention it takes A LOT of research, responsibility, and dedication to own these animals and they are NOT for someone who is jumping into it. I KNOW I've mentioned this whenever I talk about them

And the Ol Roy situation? Dont tell me you cant afford a proper diet and yet have 2 puppies. Not even a normal domestic dog should be fed that shit.

Ol' Roy was actually just given as gifts. Been feeding them Pedigree and the same kind of food the original owner of them were feeding to them mainly.

And no, your puppy does not have Arctic coloring, no matter what you say. Show me bonafide fucking proof of its nails and birthdate and ill take back everything ive said and everything ive learned from my years working with pure wolves and wolfdogs of every content.

Again, did I mention content? What do you know? She could be more mala than wolf than anything. I never mentioned it here, nor do I feel the need to have originally mentioned it here.
When my camera is working or I find a decent thing to take pics with then ok. But again, this is what I did not want to get into and I really don't care to so if curse words is all you have to spill and you are really going to turn this into a heated thread, then just stop posting please.

Good night

And absolutely not, why the fuck would I let you damage everything I've fought so hard to get across to people for almost my entire life?
You tried to get wolfdogs because you thought they were 'cool' and 'pretty' and 'spiritual' or some bullshit like that, your a fucking joke.

That's why I got them? OMFG THANKS SO MUCH FOR TELLING ME WHY I GOT THEM!!! I NEVER KNEW WHY BUT YOU TOTALLY CLEARED THAT UP!!!!

And everything you are mentioning that I supposedly "didn't" say or seem to be making it be, is everything I have mentioned and said, so again, good night

[Salamanda]

There's no point to on THESE forums seeing how you seem to be the only one besides Matt and I on here who are interested in these animals. Why do I have to mention their content where it doesn't matter? If I was talking on Wolfdog forums or Wolf forums or Dog forums or talking to someone about my dogs and the convo was very important then YES, I'd mention their content. But here it is not needed.


And yet in every thread I post I mention it takes A LOT of research, responsibility, and dedication to own these animals and they are NOT for someone who is jumping into it. I KNOW I've mentioned this whenever I talk about them


Ol' Roy was actually just given as gifts. Been feeding them Pedigree and the same kind of food the original owner of them were feeding to them mainly.


Again, did I mention content? What do you know? She could be more mala than wolf than anything. I never mentioned it here, nor do I feel the need to have originally mentioned it here.
When my camera is working or I find a decent thing to take pics with then ok. But again, this is what I did not want to get into and I really don't care to so if curse words is all you have to spill and you are really going to turn this into a heated thread, then just stop posting please.

Good night

And you did alot of research other than reading a few websites? Did you ever go volunteer at a sanctuary or rescue that sees these dogs every day? Did you contact a reputable breeder and get real information on what to expect as a real wolfdog gets older? Do you even have a qualified vet? Did your breeder give you 'papers' on contents? Are you even acknowledging that your dogs are low-no content wolfdogs yet?
Pedigree is still horrible food, did you even research proper food? Just because something was a gift, you would feed it to your growing puppies?
If you didn't want to be questioned by a knowledgeable source, you should have kept your mouth shut.



Care to send me the contact information for this breeder?

That's why I got them? OMFG THANKS SO MUCH FOR TELLING ME WHY I GOT THEM!!! I NEVER KNEW WHY BUT YOU TOTALLY CLEARED THAT UP!!!!

And everything you are mentioning that I supposedly "didn't" say or seem to be making it be, is everything I have mentioned and said, so again, good night

If you have no prior wolf experience, what was it that made you want a wolfdog then?
Hmm.

[Dichromate]

Wow, they're cute fellas.

I don't know much about wolfdogs (perfectly friendly mongrels for me), but I thought they were rather dangerous. Not saying yours of course, but I've read quite a couple of articles where the pets turn on their owners after some time. It's fine if you can handle them if they run out of control, I guess, but IMO wolfdogs might be pretty and cool, but still way too dangerous to keep as pets.

[Boggart]

They're so cutteeee!

Sorry for the very useless post. BUT THEY'RE SO CUTE D:

[Nearx]

Wow, they're cute fellas.

I don't know much about wolfdogs (perfectly friendly mongrels for me), but I thought they were rather dangerous. Not saying yours of course, but I've read quite a couple of articles where the pets turn on their owners after some time. It's fine if you can handle them if they run out of control, I guess, but IMO wolfdogs might be pretty and cool, but still way too dangerous to keep as pets.

Yes they can be dangerous and I've read things where a wolfdog that was socialized A LOT as a pup with kids adults, other animals, etc, ended up one day, randomly biting at a kid who was just standing next to it. Not moving, not playing, just standing there.

I'm very aware of this and prepared to have to some day face this possibility, but its the experience with them I wanted and if that's what I'm going to get then its what I'm going to get. I've researched on the turns of that as well and what I can do in certain situations so I feel prepared (but I do keep researching anyway. Books, people, internet, videos, everything)

Thanks Boggart xD lol