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[Melchoire]

If you have a 360, you'll be familiar with how slow and unresponsive the UI is. By UI I mean the panel/interface you use to send messages, add friends, and all that. Not the dash board.

It's incredibly annoying. For example, click on "Friends" takes ~2 seconds to change. Hit B to go back, takes roughly 1 second. You're sending a message but suddenly your game starts and you're 4 screens from into the UI and before you can get back to the game. You accidentally click on "Friends" in your frustration you start hitting B multiple times, because it's so slow you end up exiting the UI.

With the last major update; I was hoping they would finally fix this issue. Surprise surprise they were just tarting up the user interface for kinect's release. Who gives a shit about a convenient interface right?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the processing power needed to play games is more than plenty to make the UI, especially one as light weight as that, run instantaneously. But they're not trying to fix the issue because it's actually stopping anyone from getting a 360. Everyone who already has one isn't gonna stop playing because of that. It's all about money to them.

Anyways, discuss how much you hate corporate greed...

[Scot]

This is one of the 2 biggest issues I hate about the xbox.

The other is that Netflix search functions is like this

ABCDEF........................XYZ forcing you to scroll through all the letters to search while the PS3 is like this


ABCDE
............
...........
VWXYZ

[Scot]

That's also why I'm canceling netflix at the end of the month and going back to stealing movies.

Edited by Scot, 11 February 2011 - 10:29 PM.

[Melchoire]

Never had these problems also 360's messaging system is by far better then PS3's also groups and being able to join in on friends games 100x better then PS3, If you want to have a bunch of friends get together you just cant start a group you gonna send them all invite messages. Not including you can send voice messages on 360 so you don't have to type a quick message out if you don't want to the new UI is better then the previous but not by much in terms of load times, My major complaint with my 360 is the timeframe you can play games because of there shitty fans, My brother just did a couple case mods for me and added a bunch of nice sized fans. But i'm still getting my PS3 soon, This topics gonna start a PS3 x 360 Debate, God i hope it doesn't happen.

Lol, I've used the ps3 a couple times. I noticed their UI was much better integrated. But really the only reason I have a 360 is so I can play Halo. If it was available on a PS3, I would switch over in a heart beat.

I don't really care for a debate between the two systems, but if any twats or morons wanna waste their time, they're more than welcome. What I'd really like is to discuss the programming behind the console UI's and such.

That's also why I'm canceling netflix at the end of the month and going back to stealing movies.

My method:

1. Download movie
2. Load to usb
3. Stick that bad boy in there

fuck netflix

[Scot]

I was about to quit Halo until they made ♥Firefight Arcade♥, do you play this Melchoire?

[Melchoire]

I was about to quit Halo until they made ♥Firefight Arcade♥, do you play this Melchoire?

I ALWAYS get a horrible ghosting lag with any firefight game. I've been needing to call my ISP to chew them out.

But in all honesty I don't like firefight. When you teabag AI enemies, you end up looking like an idiot. So to avoid the embarrassment I just play with people

I could talk about the hardware but not the software, I'm no programmer
The discussion of that would much better be suited for someone like iargue and laser ;D
I feel like PS3's UI Feels faster but in terms of features its lacking, I normally enjoy playing with
my group of friends It's really hard to do on PS3 more so just a hassle i suppose.

I havent used the ps3 enough to have an opinion but I'm not crazy about the xbox's friend-networking system either. Mainly because you have to interact with the UI so much

[iargue]

I fail to see where this issue is from.

There is no delay, and I can easily navigate the entire ui without a hitch.

Get better I guess?

[Scot]

I fail to see where this issue is from.

There is no delay, and I can easily navigate the entire ui without a hitch.

Try hitting the middle button while in a game

[Melchoire]

I fail to see where this issue is from.

There is no delay, and I can easily navigate the entire ui without a hitch.

Get better I guess?

Get better at what?

Edit: remember I'm not talking about the dashboard. that runs very smoothly for me too

[Melchoire]

As an end user you can still talk about the shortcomings of a piece of software.

If it doesnt do something you think it should be capable of doing, if it's got ANY issues at all, you can still talk about them. You can't offer any advice on how to fix it etc, but you still have the ability to complain about it.

I've owned both Xbox360 AND PS3 (currently PS3) and there are a bit of win/lose to both.

XBox 360 - I had the same problem as Melchoire. It was PAINFULLY slow in the menu's. Even loading up the menu by pressing the big green (X) button to get to my friends messages it was often slow.
PS3 I dont get that issue (AS MUCH) but I still do get it. It seems just that little bit quicker.

Advantage on XBox 360 was the party mode. You can still form parties on PS3 but only if you're playing the same game. For Xbox 360 the party mode worked perfectly to chat to your mates without even having to play the same game

Overall though, you are right. There's no justifiable reason why EITHER consoles menu's should be so slow. I agree 100% with you when you say their processing power is sufficient enough to power the high visual effects in the game, it should easily have the power to process a simple UI.

It surprises me how they can get the dash-board to run so smoothly when to me it looks so much more complex than a bunch of friend lists and message lists.

[iargue]

Try hitting the middle button while in a game

Done that a middle times. No issue.

[Scot]

Done that a middle times. No issue.

You are lying. Stop lying, liar.

[iargue]

Get better at what?

Edit: remember I'm not talking about the dashboard. that runs very smoothly for me too

Get better at using the UI?

I send messages to friends during halo all the time without dieing, and I also create parties and shit while playing. I honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about with it being slow :|

[Melchoire]

Get better at using the UI?

I send messages to friends during halo all the time without dieing, and I also create parties and shit while playing. I honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about with it being slow :|

Maybe you don't notice it because your mind doesn't think as fast as ours do?

[iargue]

Maybe you don't notice it because your mind doesn't think as fast as ours do?

That wouldn't make any sense because it doesn't affect me in game. If I got killed while sending/reading messages, maybe you could say that, but considering that I can send the message without dieing, clearly my brain has to be working fast enough :|

[iargue]

Or maybe iargue has the ONLY xbox 360 in the world that is absolutely perfect.

I would love to believe that, buts its red ringed on me twice

[chaoprokia]

I would love to believe that, buts its red ringed on me twice

Red ring me triple

[Noitidart]

Ayami your post was reported by Lychee. This is what got you in trouble in the other topic. Stop attacking others.

[Melchoire]

... but considering that I can send the message without dieing...

You oughta stop camping...

[leurz]

I don't remember attacking him actually, I remember him attacking me maybe you should read his first post.
I retorted back at him, I won't deny that. I don't remember calling him names or anything either noit.

I don't remember getting trouble in any other topic either noit, I remember people attacking me for my opinion.

Am I missing something?

As an end user you can still talk about the shortcomings of a piece of software.

If it doesnt do something you think it should be capable of doing, if it's got ANY issues at all, you can still talk about them. You can't offer any advice on how to fix it etc, but you still have the ability to complain about it.

It looks like soul_stealer was just saying that your opinion is VALID and should be shared, despite the fact that you aren't a programmer,
and that it's okay for non-programmers to share their personal experiences and to complain about the system.
I don't understand how this was a attack.

On topic, I am too poor for PS3, and i'm just damn grateful that I have the opportunity to play the 360.
Usually the slowness of my crappy rural internet gives me problems long before I would even think of being upset about the UI.

[Scot]

I don't remember attacking him actually, I remember him attacking me maybe you should read his first post.
I retorted back at him, I won't deny that. I don't remember calling him names or anything either noit.

I don't remember getting trouble in any other topic either noit, I remember people attacking me for my opinion.

I read his post 3 times trying to figure out where he "attacked" you and didn't see anything. Your post was much more obvious though.

You are pretty annoying, I have no biased opinion on either. I'm not complaining about one thing I dislike, I'm not the only one who has complained of this issue and you are saying it's a smarter idea to have to go through like 20 invites in your inbox to get people to your game rather then just start a party and have them all join in?

You don't have the ability to fix the problems either, Don't be a self contradiction and stop posting in here. Because this topics for complaining. So ill post whatever i want here unless it's against the rules. Who's talking about ''shortcomings'' also this is a serious acknowledged issue by sony itself even leaving a press statement for it. Know your subject next time. You are some console fan-boy dick riding the system you like more, I have no biased opinion. I'm a PC Gamer I couldn't care less which is better or worse. I'm just stating what, I personally know about PS3's Messaging and Party problems and navigation.

I have highlighted the parts of your posts that come off as antagonistic based on severity.

[gogetta]

Soul never said that you shouldn't complain. Maybe you should go back and read what he wrote again.

Anyway, I've had the 360 for maybe 3 weeks now. And I notice that it's shit when it comes to scrolling through the menus. Scrolling through up or down and going back takes like a second or two and it's annoying.

[Kat]

I'm going to ignore that rest of this thread and actually response to the original post, cause I might get twuble~

I agree with OP, and I play on both the PC and Xbox. I prefer the PC of course, so I might be a little biased, but I agree. The menus and UI of the 360 are slow and hard to use. It can be better once you get used to it, but I find it hard to believe that some people see no problem with it. It takes me waaaay longer on the xbox to type something, record a voice message, and invite friends to my games then compared to the PC. Sometimes it even glitches where they can't join or have to join it themselves then be invited or w/e. Too much hassle when we'd rather playing TF2 on the PC in the first place.. I don't have a PS3 or have ever used one, so I have no comparison to that.

Edited by Katrinas, 14 February 2011 - 05:38 AM.

[Melchoire]

I'm going to ignore that rest of this thread and actually response to the original post, cause I might get twuble~

I agree with OP, and I play on both the PC and Xbox. I prefer the PC of course, so I might be a little biased, but I agree. The menus and UI of the 360 are slow and hard to use. It can be better once you get used to it, but I find it hard to believe that some people see no problem with it. It takes me waaaay longer on the xbox to type something, record a voice message, and invite friends to my games then compared to the PC. Sometimes it even glitches where they can't join or have to join it themselves then be invited or w/e. Too much hassle when we'd rather playing TF2 on the PC in the first place.. I don't have a PS3 or have ever used one, so I have so comparison to that.

I found another way the slow-ness can screw you over, it happened to me today. I was trying to mute someone who had mic issues, in the Halo reach menu "Mute" is at the bottom and I accidentally pressed "View Gamer Profile" instead. Needless to say by the time I was able to go back and actually mute him I had respawned >_<

Just delete my post, I need to stop posting on forums till they get better again.

I wasn't attacking him.
If i was i would have insulted him, He was dick-riding the console.
And he was annoying me, I don't see how that's a personal attack because, I'm annoyed by him.
''You can't offer any advice on how to fix it etc, but you still have the ability to complain about it.''
That's where, I felt he was saying i had no right to complain. I felt i have a right to complain, If i'm paying money for it.

I hate to get in the middle of this but, Ayami I think you just misread soul_stealer's post.

If it doesnt do something you think it should be capable of doing, if it's got ANY issues at all, you can still talk about them. You can't offer any advice on how to fix it etc, but you still have the ability to complain about it.

SS was saying just that; that you CAN complain about the consoles regardless of whether you can offer advice on fixing them. He wasn't telling you not to complain, he was saying the opposite.

[Unseen]

Just delete my post, I need to stop posting on forums till they get better again.

I wasn't attacking him.
If i was i would have insulted him, He was dick-riding the console.
And he was annoying me, I don't see how that's a personal attack because, I'm annoyed by him.
''You can't offer any advice on how to fix it etc, but you still have the ability to complain about it.''
That's where, I felt he was saying i had no right to complain. I felt i have a right to complain, If i'm paying money for it.