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[RWS]

70 lbs in 60 days? Whoa. It's unhealthy to lose more than 2 pounds a week, I read somewhere... still, props to you! Good luck

[MetalVender]

Small Update is in my first post!

[Legault]

May I recommend P90x every morning?
Now that's a workout!

[MetalVender]

I have looked into P90X, might just invest in it soon. Currently weigh 102 kg

[ToxicS]

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[Charmender]

Couple of questions:

Do you know your current caloric intake? that is to say the amount of calories that you would have to intake to keep your body at the same weight it is now
Do you know what your caloric intake will be on the new diet?
(Your caloric intake on the diet should really be no more than 500 calories less than the caloric intake you would need to stay the same weight before it starts to be unhealthy.)
Do you have a specific diet set up, this can really help to give you focus on staying on your diet, for instance have a set plan of meals, which you can mix and match each day to make sure that you are getting the right nutrition.


Some advice:

Do not do sit ups and push ups everyday, one of the most important parts of building muscle is downtime, Three days a week is the recommended amount that should be spent on muscular building exercise with a rest/cardio day in between.
If you are to be exercising, make sure than in your meals there is enough protein otherwise your muscles will not repair in time for you to continue it without risk of damage.
Stick to four of five smaller meals at regular intervals throughout the day, this helps to stop your body storing extra energy as fat.

[MetalVender]

Couple of questions:

Do you know your current caloric intake? that is to say the amount of calories that you would have to intake to keep your body at the same weight it is now
Do you know what your caloric intake will be on the new diet?
(Your caloric intake on the diet should really be no more than 500 calories less than the caloric intake you would need to stay the same weight before it starts to be unhealthy.)
Do you have a specific diet set up, this can really help to give you focus on staying on your diet, for instance have a set plan of meals, which you can mix and match each day to make sure that you are getting the right nutrition.


Some advice:

Do not do sit ups and push ups everyday, one of the most important parts of building muscle is downtime, Three days a week is the recommended amount that should be spent on muscular building exercise with a rest/cardio day in between.
If you are to be exercising, make sure than in your meals there is enough protein otherwise your muscles will not repair in time for you to continue it without risk of damage.
Stick to four of five smaller meals at regular intervals throughout the day, this helps to stop your body storing extra energy as fat.

Honestly i have no clue! I just want to lose weight and look hotter. Plus 60-70 kg is my desired weight. I am around 170cm tall. Currently 100-105 ish.

[Charmender]

For your weight, assuming you don't do any laborious job such as heavy lifting or competitive running and assuming your a healthy human with normal metabolism rates.
You should look at eating around 2000-2200 calories a day, Though that is a guesstimation, you would be better using the calculators i mention below.
I will tell you though that its not only caloric intake that you need to take in to account, you should also be measuring the amount of carbs, protein and fat in each meal.
There are a few calculators on the internet that will give you a good guide for nutrition, as the correct nutrition is the key to fast loss of weight (also to bulking up as you mention).
You will need to know your body fat percentage for the calculators and its always a good idea to know it yourself.

Though as a rule of thumb, 40%/40%/20% (protein/carbs/fat) is the general starting point for nutrition, then you work on it from there based on results.

[MetalVender]

Well I would say my metabolism is not normal and all i pretty much want to do is eat like i usually do, just less, healthier and do exercise, the 60 days thing is just cus i couldn't think of another number and when i dropped from 150 roughly to 70 a few years back it took me about 4 months and a bit. That was just eating less and doing random exercise. Lately though it is painful to complete simple pushups

[Charmender]

Fair enough, but you should have a look into nutrition, it can really help make losing weight a much easier process
Its good to see you are keeping well hydrated as that can help also

I wish you the best of luck and look forward to seeing your diary.

[Adam]

Good luck! I'm sure you saw my thread on how I've started working out. The last few days I've been only doing my legs ( mostly running ) to work on my cardio. Remember to work on your legs as much if not more then your upper body, some of the biggest muscles are in the lower part of your body. 40 - 100 situps/pushups each day? I suggest you narrow that number down, do either 40-50 or 90-100 each day. One of the most important parts of working out is letting your muscles rest, this is why big bodybuilders get a lot of sleep. When you really start lifting and such your muscles stretch and sometimes break. When you give them a rest or when you sleep over night they essentially sew themselves together and become bigger & stronger. Cycle your workout schedule to something like this:

Chest + Triceps - Saturday
Back + Biceps - Sunday
Legs - Monday
Shoulders + Core - Tuesday

This will ensure that your muscles have plenty of time to rest between workout sessions.

[Altzer]

For your weight, assuming you don't do any laborious job such as heavy lifting or competitive running and assuming your a healthy human with normal metabolism rates.
You should look at eating around 2000-2200 calories a day, Though that is a guesstimation, you would be better using the calculators i mention below.
I will tell you though that its not only caloric intake that you need to take in to account, you should also be measuring the amount of carbs, protein and fat in each meal.
There are a few calculators on the internet that will give you a good guide for nutrition, as the correct nutrition is the key to fast loss of weight (also to bulking up as you mention).
You will need to know your body fat percentage for the calculators and its always a good idea to know it yourself.

Though as a rule of thumb, 40%/40%/20% (protein/carbs/fat) is the general starting point for nutrition, then you work on it from there based on results.

2000-2200 is the metabolic rate of a man though, it's impossible to lose weight when there is not a deficit in net calories!
To shed a kilogram of fat, a 3500 calorie deficit is required.
30kg in 60 days = ~1750 daily Cal deficit
To achieve that without a lower intake, you'd have to burn 1750 Cal with physical exercise...Which is a lot.
I've found the Daily Plate is a good site to keep track of intake/burning balance by considering food and exercise.
One thing that helped me to lose weight was increasing protein in my diet since it boosts the metabolism and reduces appetite, and reduced carbohydrate intake increases lipolysis. After losing the weight, it's a really good idea to build up muscle, since muscle requires extra calories just to maintain itself. I say this because I've heard it's difficult to do weight loss and muscle gain simultaneously, since muscle gain requires heavy strength training and...Increased calorie intake.
Last year I lost about 15kg rather quickly, and I learnt a few things from it so well, maybe my input can help a bit. I wish you the best

[Charmender]

2000-2200 is the metabolic rate of a man though, it's impossible to lose weight when there is not a deficit in net calories!
To shed a kilogram of fat, a 3500 calorie deficit is required.
30kg in 60 days = ~1750 daily Cal deficit
To achieve that without a lower intake, you'd have to burn 1750 Cal with physical exercise...Which is a lot.
I've found the Daily Plate is a good site to keep track of intake/burning balance by considering food and exercise.
One thing that helped me to lose weight was increasing protein in my diet since it boosts the metabolism and reduces appetite, and reduced carbohydrate intake increases lipolysis. After losing the weight, it's a really good idea to build up muscle, since muscle requires extra calories just to maintain itself. I say this because I've heard it's difficult to do weight loss and muscle gain simultaneously, since muscle gain requires heavy strength training and...Increased calorie intake.
Last year I lost about 15kg rather quickly, and I learnt a few things from it so well, maybe my input can help a bit. I wish you the best

There would be a deficit in calories though, based on his current weight and exercise his caloric intake would be around ( based on his weight and guesstimation of height as i do not know it) 2400.

Going down to 2000 calories would be the most suitable option for him to stay healthy plus exercise would allow him to lose weight at a safe rate. losing 30kg in 60 days isn't really that healthy

Whilst i agree he would see a quicker drop in weight if he chose to go for less calories, it would not be healthy, as he would not be sustaining enough nutrients for the exercise he is planning.

[Lallard]

Just my two cents on "dieting":

Make it so that you can develop a long-term habit about this. If you're going to stick to "just one diet" aka that footlong sub during your 60 day weight loss adventure, after those 60 days you'll most likely go back to your old ways and end up gaining up all that weight. Variety's key for the sake of keeping your sanity.

Rest days just like everyone said. For every two to three weeks of a strict workout routine take an easy week (eg lowering the sets in weightlifting, lowering your mileage by half, adding another day off for your weekly routine).

Don't worry much about "working on specific muscle groups" especially since you're primarily aiming for weight loss. Spend your first few weeks or at least up to a month adjusting to your sudden change in lifestyle, and then once accustomed to it then work on building up from there. Gotta take it one step at a time, no point doing everything in so little time if you want to make a long-term change.

[MeWantCookies]

Good luck on your weight loss. The hardest part is committing yourself to do it. And by doing things like creating this thread, keeping notes on your fridge reminding you to eat healthy, and setting reminders on your phone to work out, you are helping yourself get over the mental obstacles.

Looking forward to hearing about your results. =)

[Legault]

OR you can try Insanity.
45 minutes a day && if you have the will power, you can do some major work on your body.

[MetalVender]

New Update in the first post you guys! Will edit in weight later!

[Kyouma]

Losing that much weight in just two months is unhealthy. Plus, not to mention, if you do manage to lose that much weight in just 60 days, there always a very high chance of a rebound back into your original weight.

The dropping from 150 to 70 in 4 months is a little better, but i'd still take longer to lose weight.


Instead of trying to "lose weight fast", it really is better if you try and maintain a constant regime of diet and exercise. Not to try and sound like one of those health pamphlets, but instead of going massive weight loss, it'll be much better for you if you just go slow and steady. First, it'll put alot less strain on your body. Trying to over-extend yourself and doing all these exercises tend to overexercise your body, resulting in sore muscles and perhaps muscle pains that won't be any good for you. Second, doing a slow and steady diet/weight loss program helps you to make a habit of doing everything. Originally, I started swimming everynight to lose some weight, and now, if I don't go swimming once every day or two, i start to get itchy and restless. That kind of attitude'll definitely help with your weight loss. Also, one last thing, if you do do a relaxed weight loss program (there are a bunch online), you'll at the same time lose weight, and gain lean muscle. That'll help you gain the fit/skinny sort of look, instead of the sickly skinny look/

[Frank274]

Someone probable already said this, but I'm too lazy to read it...

Don't watch the scale to see if you've lost weight. Watch the way your clothes fit. If you're doing pushups/situps everyday, you'll start gaining muscle to replace the fat. You'll lose weight at first, but eventually you'll start gaining it back, but in a good way. Just keep that in mind. Good luck nonetheless!

OR you can try Insanity.
45 minutes a day && if you have the will power, you can do some major work on your body.

Insanity kicks my butt. I didn't think 35-45 minutes of straight cardio/core was hard, but holy shit. I'm starting to finally get used to it though.

[Glow]

Good luck! ^___^



Once you get into a good routine your body starts to get used to it and it becomes easier to do~

[MetalVender]

Thanks for everyone's positivity and information!

Is there a link where i can get insanity? About it?

Also to you Glow when i was roughly 70 kg sort of around that weight in 2008'ish I was pretty bouncy, energetic and the usual. I'd get itchy and that if i didn't do anything. I wish i was back to that.

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I will also be adding up another update later once i type it up for you guys!

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Note: Sorry guys I might not be able to supply any photo's each fortnight/month or whatever! I need to here back from Samsung about my camera and I have to tell my girlfriend about it to see if she is Ok with me posting a few pictures up every couple of weeks or so.

[ToxicS]

Was identified to be Maha. Maha posts will be visible now for lulz