56 replies to this topic

[Shampoo]

Exactly. And I know doing this kinda goes against the whole idea of not linking the accounts, but like I said. It works. So whoever doesn't wanna pay for a private proxy because it's an online game. This method works.

but they are linked anyway, so not using tor at all would work too. and it would have less lag and you wouldn't have pedos using the same ip as you.

[necospes]

Neocodex, where informative advice is thrashed.

Trashed? I only see valid criticism for what you proclaim is "simply the best advice". I have used Tor before (mostly to see what it was like), and everyone's objections are pretty valid. Tor is so damn slow. Also, the way Tor works risks your 10 accounts being connected to the same IPs. I don't see why you think these two criticisms are "trashing" your advice because they are undeniably true. Why don't you defend your "best advice" instead of calling our community out?

so you log into both accounts on the same ip to AB, but use tor when you need to transfer stuff between them? my brain is full of fuck

^ Also this. Sorry, but what you're doing makes me think you deserve to be frozen.

[Monkeh]

Trashed? I only see valid criticism for what you proclaim is "simply the best advice". I have used Tor before (mostly to see what it was like), and everyone's objections are pretty valid. Tor is so damn slow. Also, the way Tor works risks your 10 accounts being connected to the same IPs. I don't see why you think these two criticisms are "trashing" your advice because they are undeniably true. Why don't you defend your "best advice" instead of calling our community out?


^ Also this. Sorry, but what you're doing makes me think you deserve to be frozen.

Shame on you for thinking I deserve to be frozen when I was trying to help out the community.

[Senrath]

Except that, y'know, you're the one who said it first. In the title of the thread. "Anybody not using proxies deserves to be frozen." Well, you don't use proxies the majority of the time. So, by your own logic, you deserve to be frozen.

[Monkeh]

Except that, y'know, you're the one who said it first. In the title of the thread. "Anybody not using proxies deserves to be frozen." Well, you don't use proxies the majority of the time. So, by your own logic, you deserve to be frozen.

I was waiting for that.... My rebuttal being I provided the means for someone to use a proxy and avoid being frozen. While on the other hand, the other guy just plain out said I deserve to be frozen. For what? Trying to help out the community?

[Bone]

If you stare at Monkeh's avatar long enough, it starts moving!!!!

+1 it does, the eyebrows start wriggling.

Well played.

[Senrath]

I was waiting for that.... My rebuttal being I provided the means for someone to use a proxy and avoid being frozen. While on the other hand, the other guy just plain out said I deserve to be frozen. For what? Trying to help out the community?

No, he's saying that you deserve to be frozen because you AB on multiple accounts without using a proxy.

[Monkeh]

No, he's saying that you deserve to be frozen because you AB on multiple accounts without using a proxy.

Did he offer me a solution before right out cursing me with a freezing? No.

[leurz]

I tried this a while ago. It was stupidly slow. I felt like I was in 1998. But yeah, if more people used it in general, it might not route to freaking Egypt and back all the time and be a bit faster. But relax Monkeh. Our community is abrasive and cynical. But we don't mean it. Nobody hates you. Nobody is using black magic on you. Just smile and post in some of our nice, friendly topics in other forums. There's one for detailed pictures of delicious food. Then, if you like, we would appreciate info on your buy times, and how you get around the lag issue, since you are clearly successful with this.

Edit: Reading fail. The whole, um, not using it to AB part just whooshed right over my head. Yeah, nevermind that last bit.

Edited by leurz, 19 July 2011 - 12:20 PM.

[mysterybat]

I don't use proxies and use programs on multiple accounts,but never get frozen because of that
but when I did not use programs, I got frozen without any reasons

fucking weird

[kittycat]

I've used tor for pokefarm like a million years ago, it's pointless and slow, if you want to transfer something, it's called a friend, surely you possess at least one.

[necospes]

Shame on you for thinking I deserve to be frozen when I was trying to help out the community.

You're not helping the community by suggesting a flawed solution, then ignoring valid criticism while falsely blaming the community for judging too quickly.

In fact, you may be hurting the community by advocating using Tor for not ABing needs, and using nothing for ABing. If anything happens to one account, you might get chain iced because you've visited so many pages on all your accounts on the same IP. You might say that you've done it safely for two years, but that is merely anecdotal evidence.

I don't actually think you should be frozen, I'm just mimicking the nature of your title.

Did he offer me a solution before right out cursing me with a freezing? No.

The solution is simple: don't use the same IP on multiple accounts when restocking. I thought that was obvious.

But y'know, keep ignoring the mentioned flaws of Tor. It really helps the community. Also keep badmouthing the community for nothing, it makes the community happy!

[Monkeh]

You guys are too much. Don't use Tor. I retract my advice.

[Ladida]

These two pages of crap made me lol.

[BEEEEWRRYY]

You guys are too much. Don't use Tor. I retract my advice.

Good advice. People won't be "thrashing" you for this one.

[italkaboutoddthings]

7 Non-proxies account i rotate daily, 6 of which now has assets up to 15m, with the 7 being unfortunate to buy three zapp's in a day getting banned right after( 2 Months). Only account I would use a proxy for is my main, to seemingly trade once in a while. The last time i got chained banned was due to multi proxing, forgetting to proxy said account while still logging into a abing account with proxy on T.T

[Ziz]

I think that the feared "chain freeze" only comes once TNT catches you doing intense cheating.
That includes: ABing on high end shops, autosnipping millionare items, scoresending like crazy, scamming, or fishy transfers of insane amounts of NP (they can relate it to buy/sell of NP or scams).

So as long as don't trigger any of those, you are safe. If you trigger any of them, you are fucked, but proxies and/or different computers and/or not having those accounts linked by transfers may help (they only freeze the accounts linked to the flagged account via transfers/IP/computer/etc. but even if you are using proxies they can still track recent activity)
I consider any public proxies more dangerous than not using proxies because if someone gets chain-frozed by TNT, they can link that account to them, and freze it too (even if it was a shell, it would stink because you'd have already invested precious time on it).


The short version: You only get chain-frozed if you do something really stupid (but stupidity happens more frequently than you think)




I think that if you (Monkeh) hasn't been frozen, it was because you didn't really cheated on an intense way. Tor has been actually a risk.

[autrefois]

What kind of supercomputer are you using that you can run TOR and run multiple accounts successfully?

Also, Id rather not get v& if I can help it.

Edited by autrefois, 19 July 2011 - 10:07 PM.

[supertrap]

Get used to it. People here take what they want out of what you say, instead of thinking about what you actually mean.

As well as if a more veteran member says something the little ass kissing nooblets all agree.

Its anoying but the info and usefulness of codex makes it worth dealing with.

edit: search makes me gravedig.

Edited by supertrap, 04 December 2011 - 11:20 PM.

[iNextGenWarrior]

Get used to it. People here take what they want out of what you say, instead of thinking about what you actually mean.

As well as if a more veteran member says something the little ass kissing nooblets all agree.

Its anoying but the info and usefulness of codex makes it worth dealing with.

edit: search makes me gravedig.

The fact that you did gravedig, and what you're saying isn't true. I just read the thread and the OP is a moron. Period. He could've gotten it worse so he should be happy.

[MagicMoose]

Rebirthing this. Do you think an account of mine could have been frozen due to this? I only accessed it via TOR (Never messaged anyone etc, it was a "Swiss" account, had a very. Very. Nice amount of NP on it.) and it got frozen out of nowhere for me "attempting to scam" users. Bit irritating to think someone else could have gotten the account banned (if they banned all accounts on the IP of the user), or did they just randomly ban my account. Again...No cheating on the account. 

[NapisaurusRex]

Get used to it. People here take what they want out of what you say, instead of thinking about what you actually mean.

As well as if a more veteran member says something the little ass kissing nooblets all agree.

Its anoying but the info and usefulness of codex makes it worth dealing with.

edit: search makes me gravedig.

It would appear history repeats itself.

[Keil]

Rebirthing this. Do you think an account of mine could have been frozen due to this? I only accessed it via TOR (Never messaged anyone etc, it was a "Swiss" account, had a very. Very. Nice amount of NP on it.) and it got frozen out of nowhere for me "attempting to scam" users. Bit irritating to think someone else could have gotten the account banned (if they banned all accounts on the IP of the user), or did they just randomly ban my account. Again...No cheating on the account. 

 

Claims of gravedigging aside, your account got frozen because of the sudden change in IP and that alone triggers TNT freezes. Unfortunate for you, your case was caught because of the large amount of NP I assume is being sold.