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[Galadriel]

Was being serious. I saw it on a documentary once.

[onlyme]

EDIT: nvm

Edited by onlyme, 12 January 2012 - 08:17 AM.

[luvsmyncis]

yes. you are right. i am sorry. *turns round*

*pinches your ass while you're looking away*

Well, I saw a documentary about how Elephants in India go on rampages where they trample people to death for fun. Okay, I didn't watch all of it. It got a little scary, so I changed the channel.

[Waser Lave]

Was being serious. I saw it on a documentary once.

Perhaps it's like that in the richer parts of Africa like South Africa but it's certainly not like that in the whole of Africa.

[Sweeney]

Perhaps it's like that in the richer parts of Africa like South Africa but it's certainly not like that in the whole of Africa.

Especially the bits that are, for example, desert.

[Cyo]

Especially the bits that are, for example, desert.

The whole of Africa is a desert whaddaya talking about!

[onlyme]

mmmmh asspinch

[Galadriel]

Especially the bits that are, for example, desert.

I agree. I do not think the desert people would find many elephants walking the streets. Also, if you're in the lonely desert you need to kill to find your next meal. It isn't like other places in Africa where there is an abundance of vegetables growing.

The whole of Africa is a desert whaddaya talking about!

I can't tell whether you're serious or making fun of me. But just so you know- Africa is not one big desert.

[onlyme]

Africa is one big dessert.

[iargue]

Idk why people keep claiming that women are intelligent :| They wouldn't let men rape them if they where smart enough to know what the man where going to do :|. I'm 100% against mistreating women, but at the same time, i'm 100% against pretending that they are intelligent creatures driven by anything more then instinct.

Intelligence doesn't necessarily relate to the ability to act on a thought, nor the ability to articulate it.



So if they were intelligent, it would be ok to carry on abusing them?

I think you're legitimately the most unconsidered person I have ever encountered.

An excellent attempt at a fallacy, but you are again incorrect.

Women do not allow them to be raped. They are not okay with it, and they choose to try and fight it off. Rape is by very definition, an act which the person is not okay with. This is completely different then animal, who do not fight back at all when we test drugs or cosmetics on them. They are incapable of knowing that what we are going to feed them, might kill them, or make them grow an extra leg, and thus they do not fight back. That is completely different then rape in every single way. Animals do not protest what we do to them, unless it causes them physical pain (As anything in the world that can experience pain, will react to pain).

If they where an intelligent species, they would not allow us to abuse them in the first place. It would result in an war that would not end until one side was eliminated, or the abuse stopped. Pets will stay with owners who mistreat them. Animals will remain when they are in danger, and will not even attempt escape in some situations where they are being abused. Simply because they do not understand what is about to happen to them, or what is happening to them.

[Nymh]

Pets will stay with owners who mistreat them. Animals will remain when they are in danger, and will not even attempt escape in some situations where they are being abused.

I just wanted to point out that people do this too.

[Sida]

An excellent attempt at a fallacy, but you are again incorrect.

Women do not allow them to be raped. They are not okay with it, and they choose to try and fight it off. Rape is by very definition, an act which the person is not okay with. This is completely different then animal, who do not fight back at all when we test drugs or cosmetics on them. They are incapable of knowing that what we are going to feed them, might kill them, or make them grow an extra leg, and thus they do not fight back. That is completely different then rape in every single way. Animals do not protest what we do to them, unless it causes them physical pain (As anything in the world that can experience pain, will react to pain).

If they where an intelligent species, they would not allow us to abuse them in the first place. It would result in an war that would not end until one side was eliminated, or the abuse stopped. Pets will stay with owners who mistreat them. Animals will remain when they are in danger, and will not even attempt escape in some situations where they are being abused. Simply because they do not understand what is about to happen to them, or what is happening to them.

Dude, just stop typing.

[Sweeney]

An excellent attempt at a fallacy, but you are again incorrect.

So I failed at a fallacy?
You realise that makes what I said logically consistent?

Women do not allow them to be raped. They are not okay with it, and they choose to try and fight it off. Rape is by very definition, an act which the person is not okay with. This is completely different then animal, who do not fight back at all when we test drugs or cosmetics on them. They are incapable of knowing that what we are going to feed them, might kill them, or make them grow an extra leg, and thus they do not fight back. That is completely different then rape in every single way. Animals do not protest what we do to them, unless it causes them physical pain (As anything in the world that can experience pain, will react to pain).

Seriously? Animals don't fight back when you try to do something they don't like?
What point are you even trying to make here?

We know that humans are the most intelligent species on the planet. The rest of them cross a spectrum. No shit.

If they where an intelligent species, they would not allow us to abuse them in the first place. It would result in an war that would not end until one side was eliminated, or the abuse stopped. Pets will stay with owners who mistreat them. Animals will remain when they are in danger, and will not even attempt escape in some situations where they are being abused. Simply because they do not understand what is about to happen to them, or what is happening to them.

A war? You're mental.

[Waser Lave]

Animals do not protest what we do to them, unless it causes them physical pain (As anything in the world that can experience pain, will react to pain).

While we're in the land of the crazy, I'd like to see you try to put mascara on a lion.

[Galadriel]

I can't even try troll this anymore. I will try to reply to what Iargue said about animals not trying to escape abusive situations in an appropriate manner. I didn't realize you were *this* fucking retarded. We are animals too. Sorry to impinge on your deluded sense of superiority, but fuck me. Does a mentally and emotional disturbed monkey in a cage not know it is being done harm? Does a cowering sheep being beaten with a baton not feel fear or danger? Do you actually live with any animals? You clearly have never observed a cat or a dog. Even domesticated animals still have the instinct which allows them to distinguish between dangerous and safe situations (with regards to the prescience of a predatory figure). An animal is HARDWIRED to escape danger. How the fuck do you think life on earth has not ceased to exist!?
Fot the sake of your reputation; I advise you rather stop replying to this thread.

Edited by cronus, 12 January 2012 - 12:34 PM.

[grapes]

I'm a vegetarian. Meat is disgusting. And being a vegetarian reduces my carbon footprint & increases my life span.

[MsRose]

Fot the sake of your reputation;

Poor IArgue

On another note, iirc you said something to the tune of "in Africa they ride elephants and so the animals know they respect them, therefore they don't get eaten by animals"

[Galadriel]

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I'm a vegetarian. Meat is disgusting. And being a vegetarian reduces my carbon footprint & increases my life span.

I recognise the explicit interlinkages between animal rights and vegetarianism vs meat eating, but that is another debate entirely and too 'meaty' to argue en passing here
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1326400055[/url]' post='1545466']Poor IArgue

On another note, iirc you said something to the tune of "in Africa they ride elephants and so the animals know they respect them, therefore they don't get eaten by animals"

I live in Africa and I have never seen anyone ride a wild elephant.

Edited by cronus, 12 January 2012 - 12:32 PM.

[MsRose]

I live in Africa and I have never seen anyone ride a wild elephant.

Pshh, you gotta get out more often.

[Bone]

I live in Africa and I have never seen anyone ride a wild elephant.

Of course not! They only ride trained elephants.

[Jaws]

You do realize that animals eat other animals and don't think twice about if its cruel or not? Its the circle of life.

I think humans reshaped the circle... it's more of a triangle now

[Frizzle]

I'm a vegetarian. Meat is disgusting. And being a vegetarian reduces my carbon footprint & increases my life span.

No it doesn't.

[redlion]

Unless of course it happens to save the species and gives us a better biological understanding of them?

How many times has that happened in the history of our species?

We couldn't save the dodo, and the chinese are totally fail at making panda porn. Captivity 0, natural selection 1.

I can't tell if this was a joke or ignorance.

Ignorance is often funny, sadly.

Lions are actually a real menace to domestic livestock in sub-Saharan Africa. They actually do shoot them.

[Frizzle]

How many times has that happened in the history of our species?

We couldn't save the dodo, and the chinese are totally fail at making panda porn. Captivity 0, natural selection 1

How about
Guam rails
black-footed ferrets
California condors
Przewalski’s horses
scimitar-horned oryx
Partula snails
Spix’s macaws

[redlion]

I could live without any of those.