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#1 Dilatory

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Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:30 PM

Sorry if this was already posted or in the wrong topic, but that we can deal with later.

Recently, I got into using some programs for Neopets such as sLAUGHTER's score sender and the NP generator. But using them seems to have limitations of not being an Advanced Member. As such, what does it take to become one?

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    #2 likerobots

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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:33 PM

    http://www.neocodex....ements-changed/

    heree you go !
    I don't think there are any cons, you get the full use out of neocodex o.o

    #3 talbs

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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:34 PM

    a handful of non spam useful posts...it used to be 500 but now the members vote/nominate on whether or not someone should be come advanced

    or you can purchase a subscription, which is the fifth tab, right beside item database

    #4 Dilatory

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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:37 PM

    That is true that there shouldn't be any cons to that, obviously not thinking very much.
    I'll look into it, thanks guys.

    #5 Senrath

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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

    The cons are that if you buy it, it's only for a limited time and it costs money. Those are all that I can think of.

    Edited by Senrath, 06 August 2011 - 07:56 PM.


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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:07 PM

    Cons are you actually have to be a contributing member/pay for it, which either takes time or money.

    Pros: too many to list off the top of my head. Most NB To me is the item database, Neopoint gen, and Abrosia full access

    #7 ToxicS

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    Posted 06 August 2011 - 10:41 PM

    http://www.neocodex....about-advanced/

    Except you can't get it with 500 posts anymore.

    #8 Kyouma

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:24 AM

    Your stocks triple, you start to look hotter, and people you don't like fall off of things more often.
    Advanced works wonders

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:29 AM

    Your stocks triple, you start to look hotter, and people you don't like fall off of things more often.
    Advanced works wonders


    Oh shit, I love it when people fall off things... even people I DO like!

    #10 Boggart

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 08:13 AM

    Oh shit, I love it when people fall off things... even people I DO like!


    Well the OP did ask for cons too.

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    #11 copley

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 02:19 PM

    To be advanced means to be the "best around"

    #12 Legault

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:33 PM

    a handful of non spam useful posts...it used to be 500 but now the members vote/nominate on whether or not someone should be come advanced


    Are those the official new rules to become advanced now? Through nomination ? :o




    #13 Boggart

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 09:48 PM

    Are those the official new rules to become advanced now? Through nomination ? :o




    The staff are still working on the details, but that's what was implied.

    #14 zyzzisking

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    Posted 07 August 2011 - 11:59 PM

    I'm fairly certain that being an Advanced Member will give you access to priceless knowledge. Rumour has it that a complimentary PM will be sent to you pertaining the identity of JFK's killer and the transcript of what Bill Murray whispered to Scarlet Johanssen in Lost in Translation.

    #15 Jake

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    Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:37 PM

    The staff are still working on the details, but that's what was implied.


    "Working" is too strong of a word here. Let's try 'sitting on the details'.

    #16 Waser Lave

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    Posted 09 August 2011 - 01:39 PM

    "Working" is too strong of a word here. Let's try 'sitting on the details'.


    It'll be getting discussed at the next admin meeting over the next few days.

    #17 Robert

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    Posted 09 August 2011 - 11:20 PM

    It'll be getting discussed at the next admin meeting over the next few days.


    That will be a guarantee because Waser will get out the ice cream! :)

    #18 Waser Lave

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    Posted 10 August 2011 - 12:20 AM

    That will be a guarantee because Waser will get out the ice cream! :)


    Is that some sort of euphemism?

    #19 Robert

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    Posted 10 August 2011 - 03:05 AM

    Is that some sort of euphemism?


    Can be if you want it to be ;)

    #20 trash

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 10:59 AM

    all i can say to this is...horrible...in so many ways...

    i understand the 500 post req. it keeps people from ruining the use of programs by people who got lucky and googled abrosia. i also understand the fact that this get people posting nonsense on the forums trying to push past 500 posts. my initial view of 500 posts was a frightening one. ive been in my guild on neopets for a couple years now and im nowhere near 500 posts. its just not my thing. im antisocial. thats part of why i play neopets. so this leaves me with the fact that it seems almost worthless to me to use abrosia or this site seeing as it forces me to spam, or to interact with people when in all reality i have no interest in spending the next 3 years trying to reach 500 post. which leads to the next point...

    so theres the option of money solving my problems...buying membership. i understand the benefit to the site from membership fees. it pays for server costs, helps to fund the staff possibly...and so on and so on. problem i have with that...im homeless, i dont have money to spend on a membership to a website. you may ask "how do you have a computer then?" to that i say the common retort...homeless, not helpless. or...home free, not homeless. it was a stroke of luck that i had the money to buy a computer in the first place. last time i bought something worth $300 was 3 years ago. this is the first computor ive ever owned. and who knows if ill get it stolen. add to that i have a wife and a dog to care which makes my access to money difficult at times. so i hope you can see how spending membership fees isnt much of an option for me personally.


    this now leaves me with an entirely more insidious problem...approval. as i said, im antisocial. communicating through the internet does not remove my lack of interest in interacting with people...to the contrary. from what ive already read on this thread i am apprehensive to the notion of getting approval for membership status. the social hierarchies to deal with, personality conflicts, and more, all paint a dark picture for me. i dont want to play suck up to anyone for access to a program to cheat on a game, and i doubt anyone wants me sucking up to them anyway. i dont have any skills to offer, unless you would be willing to trade access for information on how to be a nomadic youth in the united states...which in all reality i could never teach because its something you have to learn by experience. not to mention the fact generally dont have the time to sit on forums. im too busy trying to keep my life in order, keep fed, warm, so on and so on...my current situation for example, i have to go turn myself in to the police for a petty warrant so as to avoid being hassled where we are because i needed gas money 2 years ago so i could go buy my dog a toy and got a ticket i couldnt pay.

    so all in all, it leaves me screwed apparently. i wish i wasent so tired so i could say something about this without feeling like im ranting, or off topic, or whatever :(

    #21 Sweeney

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:04 AM

    So you're antisocial, unskilled and unhelpful?
    Then why, exactly, do you deserve access to our Advanced level programs?

    #22 Boggart

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:05 AM

    Well first of all the 500 was a guideline but you can get advanced before 500. I highly doubt that this is "approval" from members. It's more so "don't spam, troll or be an ass" and you'll get in. Although honestly, I'm not entirely sure why you're playing neopets and autobuying if you are, in fact, homeless.

    #23 iargue

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:12 AM

    all i can say to this is...horrible...in so many ways...

    i understand the 500 post req. it keeps people from ruining the use of programs by people who got lucky and googled abrosia. i also understand the fact that this get people posting nonsense on the forums trying to push past 500 posts. my initial view of 500 posts was a frightening one. ive been in my guild on neopets for a couple years now and im nowhere near 500 posts. its just not my thing. im antisocial. thats part of why i play neopets. so this leaves me with the fact that it seems almost worthless to me to use abrosia or this site seeing as it forces me to spam, or to interact with people when in all reality i have no interest in spending the next 3 years trying to reach 500 post. which leads to the next point...

    so theres the option of money solving my problems...buying membership. i understand the benefit to the site from membership fees. it pays for server costs, helps to fund the staff possibly...and so on and so on. problem i have with that...im homeless, i dont have money to spend on a membership to a website. you may ask "how do you have a computer then?" to that i say the common retort...homeless, not helpless. or...home free, not homeless. it was a stroke of luck that i had the money to buy a computer in the first place. last time i bought something worth $300 was 3 years ago. this is the first computor ive ever owned. and who knows if ill get it stolen. add to that i have a wife and a dog to care which makes my access to money difficult at times. so i hope you can see how spending membership fees isnt much of an option for me personally.


    this now leaves me with an entirely more insidious problem...approval. as i said, im antisocial. communicating through the internet does not remove my lack of interest in interacting with people...to the contrary. from what ive already read on this thread i am apprehensive to the notion of getting approval for membership status. the social hierarchies to deal with, personality conflicts, and more, all paint a dark picture for me. i dont want to play suck up to anyone for access to a program to cheat on a game, and i doubt anyone wants me sucking up to them anyway. i dont have any skills to offer, unless you would be willing to trade access for information on how to be a nomadic youth in the united states...which in all reality i could never teach because its something you have to learn by experience. not to mention the fact generally dont have the time to sit on forums. im too busy trying to keep my life in order, keep fed, warm, so on and so on...my current situation for example, i have to go turn myself in to the police for a petty warrant so as to avoid being hassled where we are because i needed gas money 2 years ago so i could go buy my dog a toy and got a ticket i couldnt pay.

    so all in all, it leaves me screwed apparently. i wish i wasent so tired so i could say something about this without feeling like im ranting, or off topic, or whatever :(



    Your not going to have to suck up for people. Just because its voting doesn't mean that its a big deal. If you don't spam and just post like a normal person, you will get in.

    #24 trash

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:20 AM

    yes sweeney, right on the nose *insert sarcasm here*

    exactly my point about not wanting to deal with people.

    antisocial, yes. i dont enjoy dealing with people when 9/10 you get condescension for being honest by some random guy on...what is it? a power trip? mad because of this info being leaked to the public? painful childhood?

    unskilled? no, but my life skills are not the kind transfered through the internet. thank you for regarding my saying i have differant set of life skills as meaning im unskilled, thats exactly the type of response i would expect from someone who is supposed to be looked at as a role model for how i can best apply myself to this site.

    unhelpful? lol, how exactly are you being helpful by being rude to someone that just joined this site? wouldnt it be more in the interest of the site to be polite to people? especially when they are expressing themselves in an open and potentially self demeaning fashion, depending on someones views?


    and to answer your question boggart... my life, although differant in some ways from what yours may be, is probably not altogether unlike yours. i still have the same responsibilities as any other person. my lifestyle is just differant. and i still like to entertain myself as does anyone else. the abing part...basically because i spent 7 1/2 years working to earn the 35mill i had. then during the faerie plot i tried to borrow a kflour and the guy ran off with my 34.4mill in collat. if you looked at the current prices on the TP it is selling for around 17mill currently. so if i sell for that i lose 17.4mill roughly. equate that to time spent on the game that would be about 4 1/2 years of my work lost. so i would most definitely like to try and find a way where i can make the points i had so i can get my crappy 1p BD set back to where it was after 7 years of work

    #25 Sweeney

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    Posted 11 August 2011 - 11:27 AM

    yes sweeney, right on the nose *insert sarcasm here*

    exactly my point about not wanting to deal with people.

    antisocial, yes. i dont enjoy dealing with people when 9/10 you get condescension for being honest by some random guy on...what is it? a power trip? mad because of this info being leaked to the public? painful childhood?

    unskilled? no, but my life skills are not the kind transfered through the internet. thank you for regarding my saying i have differant set of life skills as meaning im unskilled, thats exactly the type of response i would expect from someone who is supposed to be looked at as a role model for how i can best apply myself to this site.

    unhelpful? lol, how exactly are you being helpful by being rude to someone that just joined this site? wouldnt it be more in the interest of the site to be polite to people? especially when they are expressing themselves in an open and potentially self demeaning fashion, depending on someones views?

    You have said yourself that you have nothing to contribute to the site.
    And yet you have some sort of feeling of entitlement that means we ought to supply you with our advanced-level programs anyway.

    Why, exactly?

    Edit: And for the record, that post was far from rude.


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