29 replies to this topic

[Bone]

if the only people who get the answer are cheaters? Wouldn't that leave an awkward trophy to explain on your lookup? :|

[Sammiantha]

Well TNT don't know that the only people who answer are cheaters, how could they? It's always nice to enter for a trophy.

[Bone]

Well TNT don't know that the only people who answer are cheaters, how could they? It's always nice to enter for a trophy.

Obviously TNT can't prove anything if you win...but hasn't the general population of the site figured out that nobody actually figures it out on their own?

[Legitboi]

once i recommend for those "risk-taker".... try it for one time and grab the trophy than don't touch it again. (:

[Neoquest]

No, legit people do get it. Just not often and not early.

[DoNotAnnoyMe]

using a database and some algorithm isn't cheating, it's obviously a legit way to find the solution imo.
it's like using a CAS for the math lennies, etc. - you aren't perfectly doing it yourself, but who cares?

[Sammiantha]

Obviously TNT can't prove anything if you win...but hasn't the general population of the site figured out that nobody actually figures it out on their own?

Those that cheat yes, have probably figure it out. Those that don't are probably naive and think all neo users are geniuses

[Bone]

using a database and some algorithm isn't cheating, it's obviously a legit way to find the solution imo.
it's like using a CAS for the math lennies, etc. - you aren't perfectly doing it yourself, but who cares?

Using a database to find out the answer isn't against the rules, but sharing it with others is. Not that I care, I just wonder why people haven't caught on. I usually find users on the boards to be more cynical than naive.

[Sammiantha]

Even if they are cynical there's no way they could report everybody who guessed correctly, and even if they did then Neopets has no way of proving it. Like all things in neopets if you use your common sense you should be fine. Unless TNT go on a random freezing spree of course

[Epidote]

I'll take any and all trophies. Don't need to offer explanations to anyone. Once youre trophy collection is large enough, nobody looks at the individual trophies, just the number of them and what color they are.

[Applepi]

TNT actually encourages people to work together on the Mystery Pics as long as everyone is participating...

[iargue]

using a database and some algorithm isn't cheating, it's obviously a legit way to find the solution imo.
it's like using a CAS for the math lennies, etc. - you aren't perfectly doing it yourself, but who cares?

Using outside programs is against the TOS for neopets.

[Waser Lave]

Using outside programs is against the TOS for neopets.

Who uses a program?

[iargue]

Who uses a program?

The person who states using an algorithm and a database isn't cheating?

[Waser Lave]

The person who states using an algorithm and a database isn't cheating?

I wouldn't say that's cheating, it's just using particular skills to solve a puzzle.

[Scot]

They don't care how many times you win, this is a fact.

[Kyouma]

I wouldn't say that's cheating, it's just using particular skills to solve a puzzle.

Agree.
Saw a huge jump in the # of correct guessers in the mystery pic this week XD.
Have to admit, it feels good to win this impossible thing.

[Shampoo]

They don't care how many times you win, this is a fact.

[Silver]

I first noticed when we didn't get the answer for a couple weeks in a row - only one or two people as opposed to the hundred/two hundred correct answers that are usually submitted. Technically, we aren't doing anything wrong by taking the answer from someone, it's only the person who shares it that is breaking the rules. Furthermore, if the person who ran the program never actually enters the competition, no rules have in fact been broken at all, since the person who ran the program never used it for their own gain.

Hope y'all enjoyed my logic.

[onlyme]

They don't care how many times you win, this is a fact.

^ that. i enter whenever i want a price it gives out or when i just feel like. so i have the trophy plus lots of wins, nothing ever happened.

[Eliam]

I have legitimately won the Mystery Pic before, second place. This was a few years back (like...2005 or so), but I just happened to know what the picture was of and put it in. It *is* possible.

[Jaws]

I first noticed when we didn't get the answer for a couple weeks in a row - only one or two people as opposed to the hundred/two hundred correct answers that are usually submitted. Technically, we aren't doing anything wrong by taking the answer from someone, it's only the person who shares it that is breaking the rules. Furthermore, if the person who ran the program never actually enters the competition, no rules have in fact been broken at all, since the person who ran the program never used it for their own gain.

Hope y'all enjoyed my logic.

Well It's illegal to share the answer... but it should also be illegal to go looking for it off the site
But it really doesn't matter, like Scot said

Edited by Jaws, 26 August 2011 - 05:29 AM.

[DoNotAnnoyMe]

Using outside programs is against the TOS for neopets.

not quite true, only programs that make any sort of modification to the virtual world (e.g. some program directly operating on the site like an ABer, autoplayer, ...) are against the TOS.
in this case you just grab the pic normally and analyze it offline -> no modifications done, actually no interaction with the website occurs at all

[Kyouma]

not quite true, only programs that make any sort of modification to the virtual world (e.g. some program directly operating on the site like an ABer, autoplayer, ...) are against the TOS.
in this case you just grab the pic normally and analyze it offline -> no modifications done, actually no interaction with the website occurs at all

Well if thats the case, I could use a shapeshifter solver, and then input the answer in myself and it'll be fine right?
That game was built for programmers

[copley]

We love waser so don't bad mouth him !!!