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[Bazzel]

I have to do a shop for my guilds mall and I got books.

So how risky would Abing in the Book store using default setting but 1k profit instead of 5k

If its too risky ill have to try SSW book sniping


Or shall I use a proxy and Do it on a side and then price books at like 300np and buy out my own shop? (Id prefer to do it on my main though)

[Strategist]

Its not really THAT risky tbh. I've AB'ed there for the past year with no freezes and my profit margin is around 2K with buy times ~2000ms. Good luck

[Rainie]

So how risky would Abing in the Book store using default setting but 1k profit instead of 5k

With the default settings & your profit margin I'd say that the chance of you getting frozen is pretty unlikely (so not very risky cX~~)

Or shall I use a proxy and Do it on a side and then price books at like 300np and buy out my own shop? (Id prefer to do it on my main though)

It's perfectly fine to AB on your main account (unless you're using crazy buy times, but that's not the case here X3~) ^__^
/It's more suspicious to AB on a separate account and then transfer items to your main anyways; TNT will notice the random items you're getting/

[Musician]

I have to do a shop for my guilds mall and I got books.

So how risky would Abing in the Book store using default setting but 1k profit instead of 5k

If its too risky ill have to try SSW book sniping


Or shall I use a proxy and Do it on a side and then price books at like 300np and buy out my own shop? (Id prefer to do it on my main though)

It's not that risky at all - even on your main - if you're using the default settings with only 1k profit. Sticking to one shop makes it even safer, because that's what a normal human would do when restocking.

[Bazzel]

So when i select which shops to AB from, do I choose NO.7 or do i choose all the book shops?

[Rainie]

So when i select which shops to AB from, do I choose NO.7 or do i choose all the book shops?

That would depend on you; do you want to just AB at the Magical Bookshop or the other ones as well~? o:
Either way it wouldn't really increase your freeze risk (imo), so your choice cX~

Edit: I already replied to your PM saying this, but if you want to buy more books then I'd recommend just ABing at the Magical Bookshop since they have more books that will give you a 1k+ profit. o:

(Faerieland Bookshop only has 13 books that give a 1k+ profit, Brightvale Books only has 3, Neovian Printing Press only has 16, etc. while the Magical Bookshop has over 700)

Edited by Rainie, 09 December 2011 - 06:08 PM.

[Bazzel]

That would depend on you; do you want to just AB at the Magical Bookshop or the other ones as well~? o:
Either way it wouldn't really increase your freeze risk (imo), so your choice cX~

Edit: I already replied to your PM saying this, but if you want to buy more books then I'd recommend just ABing at the Magical Bookshop since they have more books that will give you a 1k+ profit. o:

(Faerieland Bookshop only has 13 books that give a 1k+ profit, Brightvale Books only has 3, Neovian Printing Press only has 16, etc. while the Magical Bookshop has over 700)

Thanks


The default settings seemed abit Low?
General wait delay is 3.0 and 5.0
haggle is 0.5 and 0.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4


So i changed them to:

General Wait delay : 5 and 7.5
Haggle setting is 1.5 and 2.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4

Edited by Chaz588, 09 December 2011 - 06:14 PM.

[Rainie]

The default settings seemed abit Low?
General wait delay is 3.0 and 5.0
haggle is 0.5 and 0.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4


So i changed them to:

General Wait delay : 5 and 7.5
Haggle setting is 1.5 and 2.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4

The haggle times were a bit low I guess if you want to be on the safe side.
Your other settings seem fine though ^__^
/You could keep the general wait delay at ~3-5 seconds if you wanted/

[Nymh]

Thanks


The default settings seemed abit Low?
General wait delay is 3.0 and 5.0
haggle is 0.5 and 0.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4


So i changed them to:

General Wait delay : 5 and 7.5
Haggle setting is 1.5 and 2.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4

Those buy times are really slow. It looks like you're on the East coast so you can probably afford a little fluff in your times, however the first ones are not very risky at all.
If you think about it, the first times will have you with a buy time of 1.5 to 2.1 seconds
The second will have 2.5 to 4.1 seconds.

Honestly (if you are picking between the two) I would keep the first set but raise the refresh rate a tad to prevent getting RS banned so quickly.

Edited by nymh, 09 December 2011 - 06:26 PM.

[Bazzel]

The haggle times were a bit low I guess if you want to be on the safe side.
Your other settings seem fine though ^__^
/You could keep the general wait delay at ~3-5 seconds if you wanted/

Just changed general back but kept my haggle

However still not one book

Those buy times are really slow. It looks like you're on the East coast so you can probably afford a little fluff in your times, however the first ones are not very risky at all.
If you think about it, the first times will have you with a buy time of 1.5 to 2.1 seconds
The second will have 2.5 to 4.1 seconds.

Honestly (if you are picking between the two) I would keep the first set but raise the refresh rate a tad to prevent getting RS banned so quickly.

Im from the UK where Internet speed Sucks Ass, I am lucky to pull 3.8Mbps

Sorry Which one is Refresh rate?


2011-12-10 02:25:26 - Abrosia MSAB Started.
2011-12-10 02:31:43 - Missed Faerie Berry Recipes: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 25362 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:47 - Missed Ogrin Mountain Climber: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 12139 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:52 - Missed King Roos Dice: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 9424 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:57 - Bought Illusens Sword Techniques: 1501 NP in 2164ms (Est. Profit: 3875 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:07 - Missed Try Not To Beg: Haggle Rejected. (Est. Profit: 3214 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:12 - Bought Borovan: The Truth Behind the Smell: 1294 NP in 2153ms (Est. Profit: 1095 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:22 - Bought Deep Underwater: 1488 NP in 2317ms (Est. Profit: 1092 NP)


It did something!

[Nymh]

Im from the UK where Internet speed Sucks Ass, I am lucky to pull 3.8Mbps

Sorry Which one is Refresh rate?


2011-12-10 02:25:26 - Abrosia MSAB Started.
2011-12-10 02:31:43 - Missed Faerie Berry Recipes: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 25362 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:47 - Missed Ogrin Mountain Climber: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 12139 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:52 - Missed King Roos Dice: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 9424 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:57 - Bought Illusens Sword Techniques: 1501 NP in 2164ms (Est. Profit: 3875 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:07 - Missed Try Not To Beg: Haggle Rejected. (Est. Profit: 3214 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:12 - Bought Borovan: The Truth Behind the Smell: 1294 NP in 2153ms (Est. Profit: 1095 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:22 - Bought Deep Underwater: 1488 NP in 2317ms (Est. Profit: 1092 NP)


It did something!

Oh! I was going by your local time on your profile. I guess it's not accurate? Worse internet speed means you can lower your settings even more because you're having to fight the latency between their servers and you (which are in the US).
The refresh rate is the general wait delay. Having it lower will mean quicker RS bans, but higher can cause you to miss restocks altogether.

[Rainie]

Worse internet speed means you can lower your settings even more because you're having to fight the latency between their servers and you (which are in the US).

^

2011-12-10 02:32:07 - Missed Try Not To Beg: Haggle Rejected. (Est. Profit: 3214 NP)

& If your offers get rejected more than a few times then you might have to think about raising your haggle percentage o:
/Although it should be fine, some items just require a higher haggle I guess ~/

But congrats aha ^u^~~

Edit: Sorry! Lower your haggle percentage & haggle, not higher it, sorry my bad >n<~~

Edited by Rainie, 10 December 2011 - 05:10 PM.

[Bazzel]

Yep thats wrong. its 02:42Am

I have just ran a Speed test using Speedtest.net

I swallow what i said, I now have


Ping : 99ms
Download: 8.51Mbps
Upload: 0.74Mbps

Reshresh rate 3.0 and 5.5
Haggle setting is 1.5 and 2.7
OCR: 1.0 and 1.4

How would these settings be?

Also I keep getting Haggle Rejected?
2011-12-10 02:31:43 - Missed Faerie Berry Recipes: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 25362 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:47 - Missed Ogrin Mountain Climber: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 12139 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:52 - Missed King Roos Dice: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 9424 NP)
2011-12-10 02:31:57 - Bought Illusens Sword Techniques: 1501 NP in 2164ms (Est. Profit: 3875 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:07 - Missed Try Not To Beg: Haggle Rejected. (Est. Profit: 3214 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:12 - Bought Borovan: The Truth Behind the Smell: 1294 NP in 2153ms (Est. Profit: 1095 NP)
2011-12-10 02:32:22 - Bought Deep Underwater: 1488 NP in 2317ms (Est. Profit: 1092 NP)
2011-12-10 02:35:25 - Missed Flying For Eyries: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 21024 NP)
2011-12-10 02:35:30 - Missed Geometry Level 1: Haggle Rejected. (Est. Profit: 5307 NP)
2011-12-10 02:35:35 - Bought Kyrii Country: 3811 NP in 2113ms (Est. Profit: 1717 NP)
2011-12-10 02:38:21 - Missed The Lost Grundo: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 27623 NP)
2011-12-10 02:38:26 - Bought Wocky Secrets: 2054 NP in 2221ms (Est. Profit: 1480 NP)
2011-12-10 02:39:10 - Bought Shell Crafts: 2200 NP in 1985ms (Est. Profit: 1919 NP)
2011-12-10 02:43:11 - Bought Secrets Of The Money Tree: 3462 NP in 2776ms (Est. Profit: 5386 NP)
2011-12-10 02:45:19 - Missed Collectable Cards: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 7967 NP)
2011-12-10 02:45:24 - Bought Basic Healing For Kyriis: 2370 NP in 2133ms (Est. Profit: 3584 NP)
2011-12-10 02:45:32 - Missed Haunted Diary: Sold out. (Est. Profit: 1514 NP)

Edited by Chaz588, 09 December 2011 - 06:53 PM.

[Nymh]

& If your offers get rejected more than a few times then you might have to think about raising your haggle percentage o:
/Although it should be fine, some items just require a higher haggle I guess ~/

But congrats aha ^u^~~

Raise = lower the number BTW, I think the default is like 5.2% which is actually kind of high. If you lower it to around 1% you won't get any haggle rejections anymore.

[Bazzel]

^



& If your offers get rejected more than a few times then you might have to think about raising your haggle percentage o:
/Although it should be fine, some items just require a higher haggle I guess ~/

But congrats aha ^u^~~

Its at 5.2
How much would you suggest raising it to?

Raise = lower the number BTW, I think the default is like 5.2% which is actually kind of high. If you lower it to around 1% you won't get any haggle rejections anymore.

Thats confusing lol

1% is safe?

Ive never touch the haggle setting only ever the Reshresh rate and haggle Time rate

[Nymh]

She and I are talking about the same thing. Yes 1% is safe, this is not changing anything but the amount of the number that you are entering into the haggle screen to try to buy the item. When you lower this number, you are decreasing the difference between what the shopkeeper is asking and what you are offering.

For example:

Shopkeeper "I won't take any less than 1000 NP"
If your haggle percent is 5.2, you will offer around 948 NP
If your haggle percent is 1, you will offer around 990 NP. <-- much more likely to get accepted

[Bazzel]

She and I are talking about the same thing. Yes 1% is safe, this is not changing anything but the amount of the number that you are entering into the haggle screen to try to buy the item. When you lower this number, you are decreasing the difference between what the shopkeeper is asking and what you are offering.

For example:

Shopkeeper "I won't take any less than 1000 NP"
If your haggle percent is 5.2, you will offer around 948 NP
If your haggle percent is 1, you will offer around 990 NP. <-- much more likely to get accepted

Thank you Ill set it to 1%

I dont really care for major profit, as Long as I dont lose out Majorly.

[Scot]

[Bazzel]

Thanks!

You may want to re-consider showing what you google searches are

Edited by Chaz588, 09 December 2011 - 08:24 PM.

[Therion]

Do yourself a favor. Figure out what settings YOU need to get a comfortable ~2,000ms buy time, give or take 200 or so ms to keep you from dipping into suicide territory on fast days. It will help you out immensely not having to ask other people what to use, because the settings are different for everybody (unless you for some unlikely reason happen to live next door to them).

That said, ABing always has its risks. At 1k profit though, you'll be doing it right. Refreshing at places like fresh foods and bookstore looking for items with a profit margin of 50k and passing up hundreds of items that would easily triple your earnings, is just not good business sense, and would only be done by people that have no vested effort in the process aka robots.