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[Elindoril]

What is your actual argument btw? Are you suggesting we need to change something?

Viacom and their all powerful lawyers can and will take us down if they try to because we're just a lowly forum that's obviously violating something by cheating on their site and there's nothing we can do about it?

wakarimasenlol.

[supertrap]

No, supertrap, that is not what I am saying. Of course they would be able to.

I'm saying they probably won't use all of their legal leverage, because if they do decide to take action, it will be to raise complaints here and there that we will end up complying with.

Which if this was atmitted by others way earlyer, then there would be no need for the obvious triumph of codexs social hierarchy over logic, in effect, muting my need to sound harsh.

For the rest of you. Kiss my ass, Re read my posts. Argument makes perfect sense if you apply this logic admitted by SL to the beginning of this topic. Then I wouldnt have rambled on with theoretical reasons viamcom could use. WTF

[ShadowLink64]

try rereading my post, I think its pretty self explanatory. Basic deduction skills might be necessary but not nothing i dont think you would have trouble with. Multiple points on one post isnt that advanced.

What is your actual argument btw? Are you suggesting we need to change something?

My question exactly. I can't be entirely lacking in basic deduction skills if two other people are questioning the same thing.

I see no point in this "argument", because nothing's going to change. If they take us down, big deal. It's about time I say, since we've been doing this for 8 years now.

[Waser Lave]

My question exactly. I can't be entirely lacking in basic deduction skills if two other people are questioning the same thing.

I see no point in this "argument", because nothing's going to change. If they take us down, big deal. It's about time I say, since we've been doing this for 8 years now.

And we'd just move to Canada, eh?

[supertrap]

Viacom and their all powerful lawyers can and will take us down if they try to because we're just a lowly forum that's obviously violating something by cheating on their site and there's nothing we can do about it?

wakarimasenlol.

FInally, someone saw the point.

[ShadowLink64]

And we'd just move to Canada, eh?

We could.

FInally, someone saw the point.

And you don't think we did all along (or at least I did)? Yes, they can take us down. I know that.

[Sweeney]

FInally, someone saw the point.

He was taking the piss.

[supertrap]

Which if this was atmitted by others way earlyer, then there would be no need for the obvious triumph of codexs social hierarchy over logic, in effect, muting my need to sound harsh.

For the rest of you. Kiss my ass, Re read my posts. Argument makes perfect sense if you apply this logic admitted by SL to the beginning of this topic. Then I wouldnt have rambled on with theoretical reasons viamcom could use. WTF

[Waser Lave]

FInally, someone saw the point.

So your entire argument was that a multinational corporation could take down a small site? That's a hell of an argument.

[Elindoril]

FInally, someone saw the point.

Wait what? If what I said was your point, it's a really poor one.

I was never on your side at all.

[supertrap]

And you don't think we did all along (or at least I did)? Yes, they can take us down. I know that.

Im too lazy to go back, but can you please go look at all the people who tried to imply NO THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. CODEX IS INVINCIBLE

Wait what? If what I said was your point, it's a really poor one.

I was never on your side at all.

dont worry, your not going to loose popularity. Im just saying you actually saw i was saying that if they wanted to they could take down codex. Its not invincible. Only thing I tried to say, They said it couldnt, i applyed reasons why they could.

[Waser Lave]

Im too lazy to go back, but can you please go look at all the people who tried to imply NO THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE. CODEX IS INVINCIBLE

I think you'd find that people were making it clear that there would be no legal basis for us being shut down. Whether an ISP would cave in to pressure from a multinational corporation rather than actually basing it actual legality is a completely different matter.

[Sweeney]

Neocodex does not break the law.
Full stop. It doesn't.

The reason Viacom could "take us down" is that they'd issue a solicitor's letter to the host, which would stipulate "violations". We would be forced to remedy the conflict only because neither our host, nor our admin team, have the resources or the willing to fight a lengthy legal battle.
Not because Viacom have any legitimate claim.

[supertrap]

So your entire argument was that a multinational corporation could take down a small site? That's a hell of an argument.

Then why did you argue with it moron.

Neocodex does not break the law.
Full stop. It doesn't.

The reason Viacom could "take us down" is that they'd issue a solicitor's letter to the host, which would stipulate "violations". We would be forced to remedy the conflict only because neither our host, nor our admin team, have the resources or the willing to fight a lengthy legal battle.
Not because Viacom have any legitimate claim.

The word legitimate is relative.

I can go on forever, cause my original point is true and has been admited. Now we are just arguing over semantics. Do yourselves a favor and save your personal dignity.

I know i am. Yall win. I should have never implied codex could be pressured into shutting down. It cant. Its forever.

Edited by supertrap, 22 January 2012 - 01:39 PM.

[Elindoril]

dont worry, your not going to loose popularity. Im just saying you actually saw i was saying that if they wanted to they could take down codex. Its not invincible. Only thing I tried to say, They said it couldnt, i applyed reasons why they could.

My popularity here is hardly an issue.

Also, I did see what you were saying, but seeing as I could take your entire argument and make it one rather baseless run-on sentence doesn't actually make it a very good argument.

[Dazz]

Do yourselves a favor and save your personal dignity.

I'm not sure if you're the one that should be telling that to others.

[Sweeney]

The word legitimate is relative.

I can go on forever, cause my original point is true and has been admited. Now we are just arguing over semantics. Do yourselves a favor and save your personal dignity.

I know i am. Yall win. I should have never implied codex could be pressured into shutting down. It cant. Its forever.

No, the law is quite clear.
Mostly.

Your original point was that our site would get shut down for violating copyright. That was wrong.
You then shifted gear to saying we'd get shut down for trading virtual property for USD. Also wrong.
Then you backpedalled once again to merely arguing that Viacom could shut us down. An "argument" so unintelligably vapid that not even a lobotomised goose would be proud of it.

That's not a semantic argument. That's you, tripping over your words so hard you gave yourself whiplash.

[Rainie]

He started the negativity with the "do you even know what your arguing about"comment.

Do you even understand what your implying.

And even if somebody else started the negativity, adding onto it doesn't help

[supertrap]

My popularity here is hardly an issue.

Also, I did see what you were saying, but seeing as I could take your entire argument and make it one rather baseless run-on sentence doesn't actually make it a very good argument.

my entire argument is that you stupid mofos couldnt understand my argument. Then when you did, you decided to keep it going. All because the stupid people are popular members of codex.

[Sweeney]

my entire argument is that you stupid mofos couldnt understand my argument. Then when you did, you decided to keep it going. All because the stupid people are popular members of codex.

Yup, that makes sense.

Three university graduates are all too dumb to understand an argument posed by a halfwit on a neopets forum. For sure.

[supertrap]

No, the law is quite clear.
Mostly.

Your original point was that our site would get shut down for violating copyright. That was wrong.
You then shifted gear to saying we'd get shut down for trading virtual property for USD. Also wrong.
Then you backpedalled once again to merely arguing that Viacom could shut us down. An "argument" so unintelligably vapid that not even a lobotomised goose would be proud of it.

That's not a semantic argument. That's you, tripping over your words so hard you gave yourself whiplash.

Are we reading the same topic. I said in a non literal way that codex could be taken down. The argument grew to semantics. I might have been wrong about the exacts about the copyright laws, but the main point stays the same.

Yup, that makes sense.

Three university graduates are all too dumb to understand an argument posed by a halfwit on a neopets forum. For sure.

Know who your talking about first. Your all just halfwits on neo forums to me.

[Irradium]

my entire argument is that you stupid mofos couldnt understand my argument. Then when you did, you decided to keep it going. All because the stupid people are popular members of codex.

Butt hurt much?

[Elindoril]

Know who your talking about first. Your all just halfwits on neo forums to me.

I'm sorry, but who's the halfwit?

I'd say this pretty much wraps things up.

[Rainie]

my entire argument is that you stupid mofos couldnt understand my argument. Then when you did, you decided to keep it going. All because the stupid people are popular members of codex.

Now that's just a bunch of bullshit.

Your first argument:

Cheat programs that violate copyright laws are way above megavideo supporting the free distribution of media.

Then:

We all know that the word "other" means USD. Now. this may be basis for a debate. But a debate that in all honestly we would most likely loose to the giant corporate giant.
This transaction of neopets currency for USD has been basis for the shutdown of very popular neopets cheating websites before...

And finally:

So you. Shadowlink. Are trying to say that if Viacom tried their hardest with all their legal leverage to bring down codex they couldn't find a way to?

[Waser Lave]

Well this was fun. Feel free to try again when you come up with an actual argument which you can stick with for more than 5 minutes.