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[Kyle]

I'm not one of those people who ever posts for homework help, but I'm REALLY struggling on this term paper discussing Paradise Lost. The main issue is that we must use two sources which are (somewhat) contemporary with Milton (pre-1750). I've been using the EEBO (Early English Books Online) database, but cant really find anything which works well. My thesis argues that Satan is an accidental hero because without his tempting, mankind wouldn't have experienced God's mercy and grace after the fall. It's a fairly common topic, which is nice, but as I said finding sources contemporary with Milton has been a bitch. Has anyone written a paper with a similar topic, know of a good database I should be using, have a source for me? Feel free to post/PM. Thanks guys!

[Noitidart]

Sorry man I can help with Math only

[luvsmyncis]

Sorry man I can help with Math only

Well, thanks for fuckin' nothing!!

I also must apologize, because I can help with snide comments only.

[Junsu]

Try these databases:

EBSCO
JStor
Gale
Project Muse

If you cant view an article, ask around the forums, usually someone has a key to wherever!
Good luck, I came to Neocodex for help on my research people too Wonderful people gave me keys to random websites.

[Kyle]

Try these databases:

EBSCO
JStor
Gale
Project Muse

If you cant view an article, ask around the forums, usually someone has a key to wherever!
Good luck, I came to Neocodex for help on my research people too Wonderful people gave me keys to random websites.

Thanks for the info! I've tried JSTOR also and couldn't find much old enough. I believe I have access to all of those though, so I will check them out in a little bit!

[OriginalFake]

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think Satan isn't an accidental hero in Paradise Lost as he is more of a tragic hero similar to the greek tragic heroes. He follows similar patterns of the heroes in that he is very charismatic and overall brilliant, but his hubris lead to his demise. Hope that helped a bit?

Edited by OriginalFake, 05 May 2012 - 09:02 PM.

[Noitidart]

Well, thanks for fuckin' nothing!!

I also must apologize, because I can help with snide comments only.

lol cunt

[Sweeney]

Call me old fashioned, but aren't you supposed to read most of your sources before formulating a hypothesis?

[Kyle]

Don't quote me on this, but I don't think Satan isn't an accidental hero in Paradise Lost as he is more of a tragic hero similar to the greek tragic heroes. He follows similar patterns of the heroes in that he is very charismatic and overall brilliant, but his hubris lead to his demise. Hope that helped a bit?

This is definitely a "better" topic than mine, however I have very little experience with the traditional classic epics, so I choose this topic instead.

Call me old fashioned, but aren't you supposed to read most of your sources before formulating a hypothesis?

Old fashioned!!! I have a few really good sources which aren't contemporary with Milton, but two of our five or six must be from his time period. So that's the issue

[Pavement]

I wrote a paper on this poem a few years back but I've since lost it -- probably on another hard drive somewhere.

Paradise Lost, at the end of the day, is basically just a long-winded fanfiction for the bible so don't let it get you down.

Some good sources that complement Paradise Lost are:

The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton -- a lengthy work that analyzes not just depression, but, pretty much every aspect of the human experience. It is expansive enough that you can pull quotes out of it that will be relevant to a wide array of topics.

Leviathan by Hobbes -- another text that integrates religion into politics and sociology. Both this text and Paradise Lost are about beginnings so you may find something useful in that.

Milton's sonnets -- if you are allowed to use them, Milton's sonnets, especially "On his blindness" share themes with Paradise Lost. Note how the last couplet reflects Satan's situation in Paradise Lost. Satan did everything in his power to resist God but ended up serving a purpose for God anyway.

Shakespeare -- Macbeth especially, comes to mind. Similar to Paradise Lost in that both the protagonists are inherently evil but intended to be compelling to the audience regardless.

Also, check out this list composed by Harold Bloom which includes almost every important surviving text from 1321- 1832: http://ebooks.adelai...re/bloom/B.html

Edited by Pavement, 06 May 2012 - 06:39 PM.

[OriginalFake]

Call me old fashioned, but aren't you supposed to read most of your sources before formulating a hypothesis?

Nah that's just putting in worthless effort these days .

[Kyle]

I wrote a paper on this poem a few years back but I've since lost it -- probably on another hard drive somewhere.

Paradise Lost, at the end of the day, is basically just a long-winded fanfiction for the bible so don't let it get you down.

Some good sources that complement Paradise Lost are:

The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton -- a lengthy work that analyzes not just depression, but, pretty much every aspect of the human experience. It is expansive enough that you can pull quotes out of it that will be relevant to a wide array of topics.

Leviathan by Hobbes -- another text that integrates religion into politics and sociology. Both this text and Paradise Lost are about beginnings so you may find something useful in that.

Milton's sonnets -- if you are allowed to use them, Milton's sonnets, especially "On his blindness" share themes with Paradise Lost. Note how the last couplet reflects Satan's situation in Paradise Lost. Satan did everything in his power to resist God but ended up serving a purpose for God anyway.

Shakespeare -- Macbeth especially, comes to mind. Similar to Paradise Lost in that both the protagonists are inherently evil but intended to be compelling to the audience regardless.

Also, check out this list composed by Harold Bloom which includes almost every important surviving text from 1321- 1832: http://ebooks.adelai...re/bloom/B.html

You're a God. Thank you

Edited by Kyle, 06 May 2012 - 08:35 PM.

[Pavement]

You're a God. Thank you

No problem.