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Steve
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:52 PM
Honestly the worst question there could ever be.
& I'm sure it's more complicated than what came first, considering we didn't just come out of nowhere.
Evolution.
& I'm sure it's more complicated than what came first, considering we didn't just come out of nowhere.
Evolution.
#10
HappyAccident
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 03:53 PM
Not really meant to be serious. This can be moved if someone thinks it should be 
Just something interesting I found xD
Just something interesting I found xD
#12
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:22 PM
Scientific answer:
Anyway I thought it was the chicken.
Scientists wielding a powerful supercomputer have cracked the mystery of which came first, the chicken or the egg.
The short answer: the chicken.
The long answer is contained in the analysis called Structural Control of Crystal Nuclei by Eggshell Protein by British scientists Colin Freeman and John Harding of the University of Sheffield and David Quigley and P. Mark Rodger of the University of Warwick, published in the current journal Angewandte Chemie.
“It had long been suspected that the egg came first, but now we have the scientific proof that shows in fact the chicken came first,” said Freeman.
Sort of.
What came first was a particular chicken protein found in the bird’s ovaries that governs crystal growth and how it spawns an eggshell overnight.
The protein ovocledidin-17 (OC-17) is found only in the hard part of the shell, but scientists have long wondered what its role has been in the creation of calcite crystals and an eggshell.
Using the U.K. national supercomputer in Edinburgh to simulate how the protein clamps on to a surface, the researchers also noticed that OC-17 sometimes just falls off on its own.
The research took 5 million core hours of computer simulations using a tool called metadynamics, the team reported.
What evolves is “an incredibly elegant process” of formation, detaching and more formation that manages to produce an eggshell within 24 hours.
That knowledge, said Harding, “can also give clues towards designing new materials and processes.”
Whether the Warwich-Sheffield solution definitively answers the age-old conundrum remains to be seen.
A few years ago, a British geneticist, a philosopher and a chicken farmer pooled their resources and concluded that the egg came first. The first egg to have the DNA of a chicken would hatch into a chicken, said professor John Brookfield of the University of Nottingham in 2006.
Chimed in scientific philosophy professor David Papineau of King’s College London:
“If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg.”
Brookfield and Papineau were speaking at the behest of Disney as a promotion for the filmChicken Little. But their theory has been the prevailing one.
According to How Stuff Works, “Two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens.”
Alice Shirrell Kaswell took a different tack in her 2003 experiment. Using the U.S. Postal Service, she separately mailed a chicken and an egg.
The chicken arrived first.
Anyway I thought it was the chicken.
Edited by Dorkie, 10 July 2012 - 04:23 PM.
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Seto
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 04:33 PM
Alice Shirrell Kaswell took a different tack in her 2003 experiment. Using the U.S. Postal Service, she separately mailed a chicken and an egg.
The chicken arrived first.
Wow, lol.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:19 AM
I would sai egg, but..
Ok, you got me there -q
Alice Shirrell Kaswell took a different tack in her 2003 experiment. Using the U.S. Postal Service, she separately mailed a chicken and an egg.
The chicken arrived first.
Ok, you got me there -q
#17
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:24 AM
Egg, because evolution~ ^^
The two things that were close to what chickens are today must have bred, and in that egg was a chicken chick~
The two things that were close to what chickens are today must have bred, and in that egg was a chicken chick~
#18
onlyme
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:25 AM
did you guys ever think about, that the eggs we eat are chickens period? i find that so disgusting. hooray vegan!
#19
luvsmyncis
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:34 AM
did you guys ever think about, that the eggs we eat are chickens period? i find that so disgusting. hooray vegan!
Did you ever think about that I ate like a whole fried chicken on Saturday? I found that so delicious. Yay KFC!
#20
Sweeney
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:38 AM
did you guys ever think about, that the eggs we eat are chickens period? i find that so disgusting. hooray vegan!
It's not even close to being the same thing xD
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joehazley
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 02:52 PM
Obviously the chicken because the chicken lays the egg!
No chicken - No egg
Chicken = Egg
You can't have egg without chicken but you can have chicken without egg!
No chicken - No egg
Chicken = Egg
You can't have egg without chicken but you can have chicken without egg!
#22
DanDoesWork
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:07 PM
I firmly believe that aliens places that egg here not knowing what was inside of it...It's not as dumb as you think *light bulb*
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