Your source doesn't disprove anything. Your source are statistics gathered over a decade of the homicide rate in various nations. A homicide rate will fluctuate year to year (these very statistics prove that), it's about finding the average between disparate set of years. Not about comparing 2012 to 2011. If you look at the majority of the numbers in your "source", anyway, most countries that were continuously documented show a decline in violence. If the average is to change is because the most violent countries weren't always included, making it a fundamentally flawed set of statistics to gauge violence from. However, accurate statistical analysis of global murder trends across various decades is impossible, so we'll have to do with recent years.
The UN has tried to document global murder rates across 5 years here: http://www.unodc.org...eport-says.html In the Americas, the murder rates charted are stable and in Oceania and Europe homicide is on the decline.
The greatest and only comprehensive statistical analysis on global violence rates over the years is this one http://www.hsrgroup....and-tables.aspx albeit it is limited to conflict-related deaths.
There's also well-researched, if politicized and biased, books written on the subject.
The decline in violence shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People might have a tendency to kill each other, but they prefer keeping their lives than killing. Every society proscribes indiscriminate homicide. The only thing that truly allows humans to kill each other is a differential of power. We kill things when it doesn't represent a threat for us, legally or in retaliation. As nations become integrated and as differentials in power drop and global justice organizations increase, people are less prone to kill each other. That's just how shit goes. We're rational, selfish creatures, sure. If we could, we'd probably kill each other for the dumbest shit. We've been doing that through a large portion of history, but the stakes for killing other human beings have gradually become higher all across the board (thanks to civilization) and homicides have dropped accordingly.
Your source doesn't disprove anything. Your source are statistics gathered over a decade of the homicide rate in various nations. A homicide rate will fluctuate year to year (these very statistics prove that), it's about finding the average between disparate set of years. Not about comparing 2012 to 2011. If you look at the majority of the numbers in your "source", anyway, most countries that were continuously documented show a decline in violence. If the average is to change is because the most violent countries weren't always included, making it a fundamentally flawed set of statistics to gauge violence from. However, accurate statistical analysis of global murder trends across various decades is impossible, so we'll have to do with recent years.
The UN has tried to document global murder rates across 5 years here: http://www.unodc.org...eport-says.html In the Americas, the murder rates charted are stable and in Oceania and Europe homicide is on the decline.
The greatest and only comprehensive statistical analysis on global violence rates over the years is this one http://www.hsrgroup....and-tables.aspx albeit it is limited to conflict-related deaths.
There's also well-researched, if politicized and biased, books written on the subject.
The decline in violence shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People might have a tendency to kill each other, but they prefer keeping their lives than killing. Every society proscribes indiscriminate homicide. The only thing that truly allows humans to kill each other is a differential of power. We kill things when it doesn't represent a threat for us, legally or in retaliation. As nations become integrated and as differentials in power drop and global justice organizations increase, people are less prone to kill each other. That's just how shit goes. We're rational, selfish creatures, sure. If we could, we'd probably kill each other for the dumbest shit. We've been doing that through a large portion of history, but the stakes for killing other human beings have gradually become higher all across the board (thanks to civilization) and homicides have dropped accordingly.
You just said my source proves nothing, but the next sentence you show that it proves that.
This is a decade of research, longer then both sources you provided (And by the same resource as one of your sources). It shows that 11 countries have a decline in violence, and the rest either have steady or increasing terms of violence.
As it is, every single country who's violence numbers remain close to even for the entire study (a decade is a long fucking time) disproves your argument that they are "declining". As such, my source disproves the statement that they are declining, because it has hundreds of countries were it remains very even.
Also, your "very details and excellent resource" is all about conflict based murders. I've yet to include any numbers or states on conflict based wars, and have purposely left it out the entire time, dealing only with murders and nothing else. Thanks for trying to disprove my numbers with numbers from something 100% off topic and completely irrelevant. that proves that you know nothing about what you are talking about.
