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[Junjie]

Hii! Just got Advanced not long ago, been happily tinkering with the new features since.

A query however: Is it slower for buying if one uses a restock list for a single shop, rather than just using the Codex item database and just selecting that single shop to buy from?

I'm trying out the restock list now (the text one) in other to eliminate a handful of not-very-profitable items, but if that makes my buying slower I'd be very happy to switch back to the other method.

[Coops]

Hii! Just got Advanced not long ago, been happily tinkering with the new features since.

A query however: Is it slower for buying if one uses a restock list for a single shop, rather than just using the Codex item database and just selecting that single shop to buy from?

I'm trying out the restock list now (the text one) in other to eliminate a handful of not-very-profitable items, but if that makes my buying slower I'd be very happy to switch back to the other method.

Personally, lists are better. You can customize what you want to buy. Either way, unless you're having the program browser multiple shops, the program will only buy from one shop. So, it's all a matter of personal preference. I like to buy certain items only. Lists are a great way to filter out stuff you know is relatively hard to sell.

Pros of a list:
Customizing what you want to buy.
Filter out hard to sell items.
Good way to get specific collectibles if you're trying to finish stamp albums.
 

Cons of a list:
One single shop.
Miss out on smaller profit items in shops that the program would normally purchase (depending on your neopoint value threshold).
 

[Junjie]

Ah okay then!

So if we are using the item db, the program would simply just download a list from the item db and then go down the list anyway right, thats how the thing works right if I may clarify by the way?

(If you dont want to reveal this mechanic I'd also understand of course. Would use the list for now, for single Shops then!)

[jinq]

if u use a list, make sure to check the news and add new items in when they come out, they can be extremely valuable for a short while

 

From my experience with the codex db, I had quite a few 10k+ profit items turn out to be a loss.

Edited by jinq, 20 April 2016 - 06:53 PM.

[Junjie]

if u use a list, make sure to check the news and add new items in when they come out, they can be extremely valuable for a short while

Sure, thank you!

From my experience with the codex db, I had quite a few 10k+ profit items turn out to be a loss.

Hehe me too actually. Or, just not making a whoole lot of profit, I suppose. That's actually why I'm buying from a list now. XD

[vendetta.inc]

The way I interpret this issue:

 

The ABer downloads the list at startup, thus the issue of 'quickness' shouldn't be worried about. I guess, in a way, an automatically generated list could be slower due to having out-of-date items on it (for instance in the book shop, which according to the database, still includes a few dozen retired books that have not been spotted in the shop since March of 2012). Overall, I don't think the auto-lists would be any slower - they may actually help you catch new items as Jinq eluded to.

 

On the other hand, there's definitely an issue with items being incorrectly priced. Outside of the high-restock items (neggs for example), most new-ish items are over-inflated due to infrequent autopricing using Neon. In my history with Abrosia, I've simply allowed Neon to autoprice the items using a large number of searches. This helps the database update the price to more accurate values. The truth is, many items that are incorrectly priced are not necessarily bought for losses (or, large losses at least). Helping out the database correct the issues helps everyone.

[Junjie]

I think that the issue is not Neon infrequently pricing things however, but with the fact that often things aren't priced at their strictly lowest prices (which is not how the bots for the item db here are designed to price things in any case). So even if you see the item being priced every few hours, they still might not give you much profit if you buy them.

 

Other than that -- thankss for your points! Agree with all the rest.

[Shane]

List in a single shop is how I did it when I played.

[Waser Lave]

Any difference in speed would be negligible really.

[NapisaurusRex]

Another con of a list would be competing with others, if you're using a public, popular list.

[Junjie]

Any difference in speed would be negligible really.

Thank you Waser!

Another con of a list would be competing with others, if you're using a public, popular list.

Ah you're right! I think this should be okay for now however, given that the Shop I'm currently selecting is a competitive one regardless. Thank you for this regardlesss!