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[Swar]

Will you ever tell us the secret requirements for the Team Codex Insider Experience Giveaway?

[Keil]

Spoiler

Here you say someone almost won.

 

Here you say this someone didn't post on the page 1.

 

Here you say you're the one that almost won.

 

But you clearly posted on page 1. So, you lied.

 

And this:

Proves that there's no loophole, because, as you said, you would reply "yes" to the question "Did the someone who almost won post on page 1?" if there was a loophole. So, in one way or another, you lied.

 

Too big, that's why it's on spoilers. That's my last try for today, going to sleep now.

 

You put in so much work and I want to give the victory to you, but in good faith to the rules, I can't.

[Iota]

That is not the segment.

 

What do you mean?

[Coops]

Does the objective relate to the inconsistencies in your OP?

[Hikimaru]

You put in so much work and I want to give the victory to you, but in good faith to the rules, I can't.

Can you prove it?

 

Edit: btw, congrats on 6k posts!

Edited by Hikimaru, 01 September 2016 - 08:14 PM.

[Keil]

That confirms what I said. If the possibility that the person that almost won (that you said was you) posted on page 2 existed even in the most extreme ways, you'd have to reply yes to that question.

 

There's a reason why this is my ultimate puzzle. Keep asking questions and it'll slowly get clearer. You've done the same thing twice now and there's nothing I can't slide from your reasoning. 

 

Will you ever tell us the secret requirements for the Team Codex Insider Experience Giveaway?

 

Yes.

 

(I gave everyone who didn't win one even if they didn't win)

[Rauul]

Are u half german ?

[Keil]

Does the objective relate to the inconsistencies in your OP?

 

No.

 

Can you prove it?

 

Edit: btw, congrats on 6k posts!

 

Yes.

Are u half german ?

 

No.

[Prisca]

welp, my kids don't want to hang out with me, so i guess i will stare at this thread for a while longer lol. 

 

Will we all roll our eyes (#ofcourse) and feel silly when we find out what the answer is?

[Pryanka]

There's no really much of a point to give someone the answer to hold because I'm held accountable to tell the truth. To change the solution is to create contradictions and I'm not letting anyone win easily.

 

On Page 2, you point out that you're held accountable to tell the truth. Now let's explore that a little bit further, shall we:

 

 

When somebody asked if the person who almost won posted on page 1, you answered no (see quotes below)

 

 

 

 

Did the someone who almost won post on page 1?

 

 

No.

 

 

Next, I asked whether the person who won posted on Page 2, and your answer to that was a yes.

 

No.

Did the person who (almost) won post on page 2?

 

 

Yes.

 

 

 

Now, there is clearly a problem with those two responses. You did, in fact, post several times on Page 1, including but not limited to the post below:

 

 

 
 
Hey. How are you doing? My name is Kelvin. What's yours? Shut up, I don't really care. Instead, let me say a few things about myself: I am a natural game maker, my favorite ice cream flavor is green tea, I like making puzzles where your stupidity is pitted against my genius (read as: poorly oiled hamster wheel).
 
 

THE Ultimate PUZZLE

 
 
Okay. The Ultimate Puzzle Challenge. I have come up with the most diabolical puzzle challenge that will make you really make you think. It will function in the same interactive style as to all the previous puzzle challenges, except this time, you start off with absolutely nothing. Yes, nothing. No diagrams, no hints, no objective. And starting from nothing, you must solve this puzzle. Oh and you potentially have an infinite amount of time to solve this. "Potentially" as in you'll need help. Chances are no one can solve this alone. Actually, it is impossible to do this alone. Work together and work each other. Knowing you no-potential layabouts who hate asking people for help, you will especially struggle. Good for you! You get another challenge on your hands. Isn't that spiffy?
 
 

PRIZES

 
 
Before I go into the rules, I might as well tell you what will make all this worth it. First of all, the very nature of this puzzle will enhance your investigative, deductive reasoning, and critical thinking skills. Isn't it nice to think that everyone who participates in this puzzle is a winner in that regard?
 
Well, time to cut the crap. The real prize is a choice between a minimum of a 10 USD transferred through PayPal (keep the word minimum in mind) AND my entire collection of Neopets accounts. The highlights below does not include the unbuyable rares and useful hoards like codestones, neggs, and rare NC items. I don't bother checking because Neopets is not worth the bother to check. I'm that serious and you should be as well.
 
The winner will receive the logins/pins/bdays/etc of several accounts that contains at least:

• 1 Duped Super Attack Pea
• 1 Duped MSPP
• 12 Million Pure Neopoints
• 50 Million Neopoints worth in ETS, excludes the aforementioned SuAP and MSPP
• Level 100+ VWN, 500+ HSD BD Pet, Trainable, hand-trained by myself
• Level 150+ VWN, 900+ HSD BD Pet, Trainable, hand-trained by myself
• 2500+ Unused Gold Keyquest Keys
• 200,000 worth of NeoCash used in Items (not based on their stupid NC Value system)
• 100+ unopened Gift Box Capsules from the most recent Spring Clearance Sale.
• I will answer any 3 questions you may have concerning Neopets in as much detail as you request, given that such information was not posted by someone else in the Private Subforum and up.

 

THE RULES

 

1. To win, you must discover the objective and complete it. If someone accomplishes it by accident, let it be. They win.
2. I must reply to all YES/NO questions I see posted in this thread at the time of my viewing with one word replies:

• YES, if the solution to your YES/NO question is always a YES.

• YES, if the solution to your YES/NO question is possibly a YES, even by near impossible margins or through unforeseen and foreseeable loopholes and there is a perspective where it may be a no.
• NO, if the solution to your YES/NO question is always a NO.
• REPHRASE, if your YES/NO question isn't understood by me or requires clarification before being answered.

3. I am allowed to ignore the subsequent YES/NO questions from one user if they ask more than one question of that type before allowing another person to ask theirs.
4. You can ask any type of questions as well, but I'm not obligated to answer them. You can also chat with me and everyone here.
5. If you catch me lying at any point regarding a response to a question and provide an explanation and proof correctly defining my lie using evidence purely found in this thread, then you automatically win the prize and the puzzle ends without needing to find the solution. I can't lie to you.
6. This puzzle ends with no winner if three days passed after the last YES/NO question has been asked.
7. You may purchase straightforward clues through Paypal for 5 USD each and it will be given through PM. These clues will be unique to the buyer and will not be shared to any other buyer. After purchasing a clue, the buyer can ask any questions of any format concerning the clue in the PM and I will answer every single one of the to the level of detail requested. All the money received from selling clues will be added to the money prize lot. PM me if you are interested.
 

GOOD LUCK

 

 

You don't need it.

 

 

 

Nowwww after all that, we go to the issue of accountability. You are not accountable to ANYBODY. You are not accountable for telling the truth. That is the inherent loophole in this game. You say you cannot lie, but nobody will know if you have lied, because there is nobody you're accountable to. You can contradict yourself and nobody will be able to say you're lying, because nobody can prove it when you are your own judge, jury, and executioner.

 

Edited by Pryanka, 01 September 2016 - 08:29 PM.

[Hikimaru]

Well, you have bested me then. At least the only prize I really wanted was the last one haha

 

Good luck to everyone still trying!

[Ladida]

Guys, we gotta find the person who almost won but didn't because someone else didn't do what they were supposed to do. Kelvin may have almost won because no one has won as yet.

 

Maybe two people have to quote each other in succession before anyone else can post in between.

[Iota]

Do you have any pets?

[Pryanka]

damnit, it cut me off. is there a limit to how many quotes we can use? UGH now i have to redo like half of my work :'(

[Kaddict]

There are tons of ways Kelvin could get away with the thing you guys are trying to say he lied about. He could interpret the "posting on page 1/2" about if that particular post was on page 1/2. He could have had his cat hit the post button. He could have not specifically said himself, but allowed that one user to insinuate that he was the close one, he could have done a million things, so if he hasn't abdicated, I feel like giving that part up would be helpful for you. Anyway, my fantasy draft kinda sucked, and I have to wake up early. So see you guys later.

[Ladida]

It might actually make more sense to get 'No's out of him, since there's no grey area allowed for that.

[Pryanka]

There are tons of ways Kelvin could get away with the thing you guys are trying to say he lied about. He could interpret the "posting on page 1/2" about if that particular post was on page 1/2. He could have had his cat hit the post button. He could have not specifically said himself, but allowed that one user to insinuate that he was the close one, he could have done a million things, so if he hasn't abdicated, I feel like giving that part up would be helpful for you. Anyway, my fantasy draft kinda sucked, and I have to wake up early. So see you guys later.

 

And yet, Hikamaru nearly won with his long spoiler'd post had he not done one thing (and we don't quite know what that is)

So whether it's something with his content or his post's structure or formatting...it doesn't seem like we need to give up this line of questioning to win.

[Ladida]

And yet, Hikamaru nearly won with his long spoiler'd post had he not done one thing (and we don't quite know what that is)

So whether it's something with his content or his post's structure or formatting...it doesn't seem like we need to give up this line of questioning to win.

Wait a sec, I missed that. Was that when Kelvin felt sorry for him after all the effort he put into his screenies?

[Turnip]

Is this challenge impossible? Is there no true "correct" answer? If someone were to get the correct answer, you could easily respond with an answer that would negate whatever they've said and we wouldn't know any better

[Hikimaru]

Wait a sec, I missed that. Was that when Kelvin felt sorry for him after all the effort he put into his screenies?

He said there was a segment missing or something like that.

[Ladida]

Is the answer related to the intentional direct communication between two specific people, excluding yourself, on this thread?

[Pryanka]

You put in so much work and I want to give the victory to you, but in good faith to the rules, I can't.

 

That's what he said in response to Hikamaru's effort @Ladida

[Ladida]

He said there was a segment missing or something like that.

I'll go back and look. I remember the segment thing when he was talking about a loophole that he squirreled through.

[Keil]

welp, my kids don't want to hang out with me, so i guess i will stare at this thread for a while longer lol. 

 

Will we all roll our eyes (#ofcourse) and feel silly when we find out what the answer is?

 

Yes.

 

Because the solution is fairly simple and barely explored.

 

People focused on winning through catching the lie, but hasn't been successful yet..

 

Deductive reasoning

 

I'm not sure if you want me to respond to that or wait until you fixed it.

[Ladida]

That's what he said in response to Hikamaru's effort @Ladida

Thanks, Pry It would help if we knew how this guy's mind functioned. I have no idea at all!