33 replies to this topic

[Hydrogen]

its a good cause , i signed it

not many people realize but america is a country full of immigrants. how many american indians do u really see compared to other races? where did those races come from? other countries

[Sean]

I think the idea is a good idea.
Am I racist? No.

I think it's a good idea because it's illegal people coming to our country to take jobs thay people that legally live here should get.
Around my area, about 500 people walked out of school. I don't even get why! Most people thought of it as an excuse to get out of school and didn't even know why they were doing it!
-_-

[amyjia]

its a good cause , i signed it

not many people realize but america is a country full of immigrants. how many american indians do u really see compared to other races? where did those races come from? other countries

well I don't think that they have a problem with immigrants.. when they enter the country illegally, this causes a problem for them.

Edited by amyjia, 27 March 2006 - 04:11 PM.

[Sakura]

Herein lies the problem. I know how terrible it can be in other countries, Mexico especially, but at the same time these people are taking our jobs and housing, and not paying taxes. Pretty much, they're just using up resources. America can't be on top forever, and we certainly can't support all of these extra people forever. Illegal immigrants need to be immediatly removed, in my opinion. IF they come in and pay their taxes, otherwise live as peaceful productive citizens, I don't mind them here at all, its what America is built on.
Something does need to be done, I'll do some more research tonight, as I'm not sure what the bill says should be done to the illegals. If its just deport them, then yes, I'm for it. If its for jailing or fining them, then no.

[Sakura]

If thats the case, then I support it. Sorry. =/
I'll still do some research though.

[ZERO]

Well heres my deal.. Not being racist or anything, but personally, I think the world wouldnt be so corrupt if it werent for the whole discrimation of black and mexicans.


See when a white man calls a black person a "CENSORED", the black person says "OH I GON' BEAT SHIT OUTA YOU!", but if they say it to each other, its not a bad thing, its actually quite funny to them.

I believe the mexicans and black people that choose and prefer to start stuff, have created a name for their entire race...How many times a day, do you see a bblack person and not think that they are gangsters? Or same with Mexicans..>Thats how I believe most things work these days.


If we kept the people that gave the people bad names, I believe its a good thing.

[ImonaboaT]

Good im tired of aliens takin USA's stuff..they dont deserve to be here...

[MasterDragon]

I think it's a good idea because it's illegal people coming to our country to take jobs thay people that legally live here should get.

[Sakura]

<grins stupidly>

Hey, y'know, it worked against the Mongolians.

No, seriously. I am against illegal immigration, because y'know...it's illegal. However, I am not against immigration. I think they should be let in to work and should pay taxes for a short-term solution and be set down the right track towards citizenship.

Of course, the long-term solution would be to just annex Mexico and get it over with.

I am getting sick of Spanish being practically expected if you live in the southwest. You can't get a good job in customer relations unless you are bilingual, which, while it makes practically good business sense, pisses me the hell off. Our national language is English, and if people want to immigrate here, they need to learn to speak it.

A-FLECKING-MEN.
If I went to another country, I'd be damned if I expected them to learn english for me.
And people are trying to make it into an immigration thing, but its not, its an ILLEGAL immigration problem. Brawr.

[Punk]

I live in Canada, and even I think that is just plain BS. Really if you think about it, it makes no sense.

[Bão]

I'm number 21307.

Well heres my deal.. Not being racist or anything, but personally, I think the world wouldnt be so corrupt if it werent for the whole discrimation of black and mexicans.

What about Asians? Everybody always forget about the Asians. There are three billion of us out there.

[Sean]

<grins stupidly>

Hey, y'know, it worked against the Mongolians.

No, seriously. I am against illegal immigration, because y'know...it's illegal. However, I am not against immigration. I think they should be let in to work and should pay taxes for a short-term solution and be set down the right track towards citizenship.

Of course, the long-term solution would be to just annex Mexico and get it over with.

I am getting sick of Spanish being practically expected if you live in the southwest. You can't get a good job in customer relations unless you are bilingual, which, while it makes practically good business sense, pisses me the hell off. Our national language is English, and if people want to immigrate here, they need to learn to speak it.

I couldn't agree with you more

[Sakura]

The past two decades repress against the people that enter in the United States illegally have failed. From 1986 to 2002, the border patrol budget has increased from 151 million to 6.1 billion dollars and the hours agents spent patrolling the border has increased eightfold. Yet the number of undocumented immigrants has doubled from 4.5 million to 9.3 million from 1993 to 2004. More importantly these anti-immigrant politicians have forgotten that the undocumented are NOT CRIMINALS, they are immigrants that work hard, they pay taxes and contribute immeasurably to the grown and prosperity of our nation.

I think that entire paragraph proves the point of the people wanting the law against them. We need to crack down to get them out/keep them out.

Also, since when did illegal immigrants pay taxes? O.o

What I think these people aren't getting is that its not a law against immigrants, its a law against illegal ones. I did my research. I support this law completely.

[Tetiel]

Okay... here's the thing. The bill is stupid... the whole wall thing but I am sick of people saying that what people are doing who come over here illegally is okay. How about they do what everyone from Europe did in the early 1900s and go in legally? Yeah, you gotta wait but... guess what! You won't have the cops running after you! Your life would be so much easier if you did come in legally

But really... breaking the law is breaking the law. Don't let them off for it

Anywho... the border though... DOES need to be sealed but a stupid wall won't stop anything. Okay... here's the thing. There was an episode of Insomnia on Comedy Central that featured this Mexican man running over the border and coming back and running again and coming back. And he said he got over there three times before but they just sent him back to Mexico but he just crosses the border again. It is not people that come here for work that I am concerned about. It is the TERRORISTS that I'm worried about. Think of how easy it would be for them to cross the border... seriously. We need to secure it somehow if we do nothing else to protect this nation...

[Cory]

I am a very ummm on the fence, pardon my pun, about this situation. I am 100% white, I don't consider myself racist, but I do joke around about a lot of the things that people would consider racist. I think people over infasizes the racial issues and that is what is keeping the races separate. I do call friends of mine nigga *including black friends* I call just about everyone and their momma cracka, I have about 5 real close Mexican friends and I often give out slurs that refer to them jumping the border and such. With that said I will now let you know it has nothing to do with this topic.


I will not sign the petition though. The law to make a "Great Wall of Mexico" Is retarded, but we do need stricter guard over the border. That is no easy task though. As far as ILLEGAL immigrants not being criminals, what part of ILLEGAL did you not catch? Many people say that they are stealing American jobs, I will be the first to stand up and say that's BS, 90% of them are getting jobs that I know their is no way in hell my lazy ass would do and most other Americans would react the same way I do. I mean really it takes a tuff person to get up on a roof all day in 90 + degree weather and play around with tar and nails *while having to carry the 50 + pound of shingles over and over again*. None the less doing all that work for minimum wage or just over. The majority, as in not all but most, of Americans that can not find a job is because they are lazy CENSOREDs who don't deserve to be here any more then the Mexicans that so many people quickly jump on.

So as far as the stance goes that they are taking are jobs, I completely dis agree. They are actually helping our economy in many ways. One thing I will not agree with is Taxes though. The do get less pay, but ain't really a big deal when you don't have to pay taxes and you share a 600 dollar a month apartment with 12 other guys.

[Frizzle]

GOD DAMN MONGOLIANS! EVERY TIME A CHINESE PERSON MAKE A CHITTY WALL YOU DAMN MONGOLIANS GOTTA TEAR IT DOWN! GOD DAMN MONGOLIANS! DON'T BREAK DOWN MY CHITTY WALL!

[Lemonblood]

Good im tired of aliens takin USA's stuff..they dont deserve to be here...

DUDE, You are so racist. I bet your dads dads mums dad was from Swaziland, your being racist to yourself. Alien. I think America has loads of stupid rules, Mexicans are cool!

[Hydrogen]

at some point in time, everyone was an alien . I am an alien so is my dad

using the argument that we are taking america's stuff...well...that just makes me think that "americans" arent good enough to get it and so they blame aliens because they were better. Thats the whole idea of american society - the best person for the job is the one who gets it. Rather than complain about aliens taking "americans" stuff, why dont "americans" get up and do something that will make them more desirable by companies...for example, stay in school

[Frizzle]

Actually in most cases it's not because their better for the job, it's usually because they'd work for lower pay.

But I agree with most people immigrants do usually do the jobs the white people hate.

(You may think it's stereotypical but it's true, alot of immigrants would travel to hell and back to get a low paying job in Britain, hell I watched a documentary on it last night and they go through some shit just to work as a street cleaner or selling batteries at a market).

Personally, if someone's an illegal immigrant, throw them out. If they are a legal immigrant, I've got no problems.

[Hydrogen]

Actually in most cases it's not because their better for the job, it's usually because they'd work for lower pay.

But I agree with most people immigrants do usually do the jobs the white people hate.

(You may think it's stereotypical but it's true, alot of immigrants would travel to hell and back to get a low paying job in Britain, hell I watched a documentary on it last night and they go through some shit just to work as a street cleaner or selling batteries at a market).

Personally, if someone's an illegal immigrant, throw them out. If they are a legal immigrant, I've got no problems.

either way...that job has to get done so if u can do it in a lower wage...all the better

thats just capitalism ...at that point, everyone has a problem with adam smith

u also gotta think about living conditions, job opportunities, freedom from persecution for any reason...a lot of shit goes on in other countries

[Lonelyloser91]

Personally i think that they need to Make it a little less strict On Legal immagrints and maybe increase the number that the american goverment allows if we do that then many of the Immagrants that come here to get the "American Dream" will do it Legally..Unless they want to be Stupid and do it the Illeagle way...Also about the Mexicans and stuff doing the Harder Work..Its prolly because they were raised in mexico..Not the Richest place..and they know how to make an honest Dollar... just like hydro Said Capitalism thats the way it goes around here if a company or buisness can pinch sum Pennys by highering Illeagle Aliens then they will...but personally i think that the goverment should Investigate some of the companys that Secretly House the Illeagle Immagrants and pay them very little to do there "Dirty" Or Tedious" jobs that most others dont want. its companys like that, that make some immagrants Become Illeagle..Knowing that they can be shealtered and dont even have 2 get a green Card to work >.<

I have so many more opinions on this topic...and it asked if i know Any illeagle Immagrants and the answer is yes i do....for sum reason alot of them come to work in washington...Probally because the apple Picking and things....

-Lonelyloser91<3

[Mason]

You're making it sound as if we want to charge every immigrant with a felony for being in America.

Ah... Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?

The key word is illegal. If you're living in a country illegally, you are an illegal alien. This is already against the law, hence the term "illegal alien." There are also immigrants who are here legally. They worked for their citizenship. They very much deserve to be here.

So, what is so radical about actually enforcing a law that aleady stands? Illegal immigration has always been against the law.

For those of you who say they should be allowed to come to America and seek a better life, they are allowed to. They just have to do it legally.

The main reason, in my own opinion, for the large number of illegal immigrants is just laziness. All one would have to do is pass a test and be able to speak coherent English. The illegal immigration is because of people who don't even want to make the effort to legally gain citizenship, so they take the alternate way.

Now, this is only my belief, but if you think crossing into a country for your own personal gain and at the same time evading taxes is acceptable, then you do not deserve to be in this country.

This issue infuriates me. I am NOT racist, so don't try telling me that I am. I'm simply telling you what I believe.

[Frizzle]

either way...that job has to get done so if u can do it in a lower wage...all the better

thats just capitalism ...at that point, everyone has a problem with adam smith

u also gotta think about living conditions, job opportunities, freedom from persecution for any reason...a lot of shit goes on in other countries

Basically the exact same thing happens with school kids, because it's harder for us to get jobs, we'd work for little pay, that's why alot of companies hire young as possbile (minus legal and insurance details).

Hydro you're right, I mean, this documentary I was watching on illegal immigrants shows the lifestyle of a man in his own country which was awful, and he said he if went back to his own country (he was getting deported), then he'd die, and he'd come back and do ANYTHING to get back into Britain.

There must be a simple solution to this really.