38 replies to this topic

[sonic]

This is an interesting topic. Just wondering.

[Ilya]

I buy some and download some

[Amagius]

It depends on the subject matter. I think some forms of media already make enough money, so this morally justifies it for me. All pirating is wrong, all admit that, but there are certain types that I will and won't.

[SupermanFTM]

Well, I know it's wrong. But...that doesn't stop me

[Cataliste]

Same. I like free shit

Plus they make millions a day.

[Dark_Sniper]

Free shit is the shit!

[Vegas]

Not all of them are crazy rich. Alot are breakingout artists whoses album sale will probably make or break them.

But ye..I still download. Its not like I was gonna buy the cd anyway....

[sockopen]

I've never bought any software.

[Archon]

They are rich enough.

Buying software is for noobies.

[Amagius]

Buying software is for people who respect the people making it and understand that they don't make near enough money for the products they make. Musicians and movie directors make much more than enough to live, while many programmers are are capping out at $80,000. Not that $80,000 isn't good money, but in comparison with other media forms, they're getting the shaft. So, if I want a game, I buy.

Quite a few game companies have died because of pirating, and that will soon lead to the monopolization of gaming, leading in the forefront, Electronic Arts.

[Random]

I buy some and download some. If I don't know how something is I'll test it first. Or I'll just download it and keep it. I think if they cared enough the government would figure out a way to prevent all pirating.

[lookie1st]

I never really used any pirated stuff. I think its kind of wrong. But you never know I might use some in the future.

[Sean]

I don't download games, only music. I don't download movies either.

So I buy some/download some

[Alex]

I only buy console games xD
Most games I download are from EA, and EA are billionaire jerks.

[Mr. Hobo]

Only things I buy are console games and games I want to play online. Hopefully I'll be getting a mod chip once I get a 360 or PS3 so I'll no longer pay for anything

[Silk]

I buy console games, even though I could quite easily pirate them (especially in the form of DS games with the help of Neo Flash) but I like having the cover () and I like the reassurance that they wont crash up on me, however unlikely you guys may say it is.

Everything else I get a mix of though. Sometimes I buy, sometimes I download illegally.

Edited by Zulfi, 30 June 2006 - 01:48 PM.

[RandomNameIgnoreIt]

Buy some, download some...

I'll download music if I just want something new, or if someone says "hey you should listen to this", but I'll buy it if it's an album I know for a fact I want beforehand.

Software depends. If it's a game, buy it. Unless it's old and hard to get or something, then go ahead and just pick it up online...

But stuff like Photoshop is 100% okay to download. Flash, Photoshop, all that. Why? Because the future of those things thrives on it. They themselves know it, which is why Macromedia doesn't troll sites like newgrounds picking off flash pirates one by one.

These industries rely on the young people that pirate the software to become their future users, and it's not like they even CAN legally buy it in the first place. The prices are outrageous. Pirating it is the only way.

[Random]

Only things I buy are console games and games I want to play online. Hopefully I'll be getting a mod chip once I get a 360 or PS3 so I'll no longer pay for anything

Do you know where to get a mod chip for 360 because I don't think they've figured one out yet o_0

[Vanessa]

I use pirated games and I listen to pirated music and I never feel guilty about it.
I know it's wrong, but I still do it, lol..

[�ƻ]

ah...I never feel guilty I mean they say they are the victim and stuff in all this but we the people really are I mean we have to listen to there crappy music

[Amagius]

Music is a fucked industry. I still love music and buy albums of music I really enjoy, but I pirate music that I want to listen to judge. Software is different; because of pirating, computer games are actually dwindling in numbers.

[Grizzly]

Wow this is funny. I took a practice SAT test today and there was a critical reading passage about this topic. Well I thought I'd share the ideas of the passage.

It's two passages about tw opposing view points.
The first passage is from an artist who argues that it's not fair for people to download songs and to take away earnings from the artist that they deserve. This could lead to the artist not being able to afford a living through the music industry and being forced to take music as a part-time job and not being able to fully do what he loves to do. Etc etc.

Second point.
..Sure they argue that by downloading music the artists are not gaining profits they should be getting. However, studies have shown that since p2p sharing programs have been released the music industry has BOOMED.
Fame = fortune right? So what better way to receive fame then people freely distributing your songs.
The article refers to two types of products: Nouns and Verbs. Nouns are physical things like art, technological gadgets, etc. While verbs are more Ideas.. people like doctors, lawyers, and singers sell verbs.
And when Nouns are pirated.. through the bootlegging industry or whatnot they lose gain.
Verbs work inversely. Free distribution of verbs actually helps these people.

So yeah.. I agree with the second viewpoint. A more convincing argument to me.
But one thing that should not be used as an argument is "They're already rich enough who gives a shit". WRONG. You're not allowed to steal from people just because they're rich So to hobos who are a lot worse off than us, would it be okay for them to steal from middle-class people like us.. just because we're rich enough?

[sweetrage731]

I buy some and I download some...

AND I know its wrong, but I do it any way.

I guess it depends on the category too...I download songs if I only want one song and not the whole album. I've never pirated any games, lol im too particular about them. I keep all the boxes and instruction manuals. Software...I'd have to say those are my worst offenses, and the reasoning is purely financial

[Blaine]

To think that I would see people defending purchasing! Well it is no shocker that the majority of people here aren't really against it. Personally I myself pirate most things. However, there are dependencies. The reason I have purchased no music CDs in years is wholy due to the tactics of the RIAA and their corrupt ideals. Call it capitalism at its works but, as a internet savy individual, it boils my blood to see this exploitation. Now if it is for an indie group, I'd buy it, however I don't listen to indie music .

As for software, same applies. I download photoshop, illustrator and many other apps. Now if the software was released by a independent small developing team and the software is truly worth it, I'll buy it. On the same note, I've tried to replace certain pieces of software with open-source alternatives. For instance, instead of using MS office, I now use open-office. Not the same but good enough for my needs.

[nox]

lol.

i honestly thought this thread was about pirates, and i was getting all geared up


anyways, its not like photoshop doesnt make money, most corporations own tons of copys of one program, enough to distribute free copys to many employers.

Edited by speakerINACTIVE, 02 July 2006 - 05:32 PM.