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Neocodex's History and It's Future


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#1 ShadowLink64

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:21 PM

Hello everyone. The news post I am about to make isn't what you would consider a typical news post that explains past events, but more of one that will hopefully inspire Neocodex to continue into the future and not long for the past any longer.

A lot of people I have talked to have explained to me that they feel Neocodex has changed over the years, and I have to agree with them. The factors most frequently brought up were that the spirit of the place, and people's incentive to work towards a goal has diminished. A lot of people have told me that they are losing the main focus of why they are putting work into the site, and admittely, I believe I did question why I was putting work into the site myself.... after all, we *thought* we met our goal (to provide the best neopets cheating environment on the internet) and thus felt there was nothing more to do.

That is not an excuse! For a while, we didn't need just competition!

The reality is that we still have a goal to work towards. It wasn't just Digibliss, or any other competition that compelled us to work: It was the satisfaction of a job well done that boosted the spirit of the site. It was cooperation and teamwork that made it all worth it. Many who I spoke to also brought up the situation that they didn't feel like they were part of a team and felt excluded from the integral work effort of everyone. This is by far the worst issue we have to address in my opinion, as we will never experience community spirit unless everyone is involved.

Personally, I have been here for about 2 and a half years, and have seen mostly everything that this site has gone though; as a member, programmer and as a leader. The happiest I have ever been on this site was when we pulled through multiple hardships as a team. It was the time when the spirit of the place would truly demonstrate itself in its ultimate form: when our way of life on the board was threatened. Although it seems like a grim situation at first glance, it was the time when the spirit of the site was readily seen by everyone and serves as a good example of how a complete team effort can demonstrate spirit.

I cannot stress the importance of remaining together as a team and working towards a goal, as that is what we've been taking for granted. We must include everyone in the effort. I am fully convinced that a great deal of spirit is still present, as we would not be here if there was none. What we must do is allow for an easier system so that anyone wishing to contribute can do so (whether it be programming, graphics, or just board activities through collaboration projects, etc..) and to treat our fellow members with respect, as I believe that the only way we can experience the "glory days" once again is if we work together.

Hopefully my message will inspire some of you. Even if the message gives a small push, the message will have served its purpose. smile.gif

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On a different note, we believe that in order to provide a suitable environment for this, a bit of board organization needs to happen which is why we have a few things planned. tongue.gif It may take a while to make some of this possible, but I think it will make things a lot better for the future.

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    #2 Random

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:24 PM

    Well, I have only been here 1 1/2 years but I remember when I first came everyone was very organized and worked together for everything. Whenever I had a problem at least 3/4 of the active members would answer it.

    I can't wait to see what you have planned for the future.

    #3 ShadowLink64

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:37 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 08:34 PM) View Post

    Good post, SL. Kinda worried, though. Surely the administration by now recognises that a lot of the active members of Codex haven't even visited NeoPets in a long time. The way I see it, this forum's kind of in a state of limbo. Those who come here for what we have to offer aren't much too active, and don't even grant NeoCodex just a few posts. I don't know how it is now, but it's quite sad that Codex had to force people in CodexCheck to make one post to be granted access to the programs. Then there's the active members who have lost interest in what Codex programs for.

    So where's Codex going from here?

    I was thinking about this as well, and it seems that some form of expansion would probably be the only course of action (into other games for example or focus on general programming) if we wanted to grow (not saying it will definitely happen or anything, just contemplating). It depends whether having focus on Neopets or not is hindering the site and would be something the administration would have to discuss, as we can't really get people "interested" in Neopets again. Times are changing, and we understand that. tongue.gif

    #4 ShadowLink64

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:48 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 08:38 PM) View Post

    Maplestory hacking....

    Yeah, I hear that it's a pretty decent field to get into. tongue.gif

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:51 PM

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    Great post. I am looking forward to seeing what the changes are. I am sure that, whatever it is, will improve the site. Push us to even more astonishing heights.


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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:53 PM

    QUOTE(ShadowLink64 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:48 PM) View Post

    Yeah, I hear that it's a pretty decent field to get into. tongue.gif

    Isn't that what other sites have done?

    I think that we should continue on how we are. I enjoy this site because it's nto focused around any single thing, we talk about anything on our minds. That's the main thing I love about this site.

    #7 Warlord

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:14 PM

    Expand into other games, further the legitimate side of programming as well, continue to build on the gfx area

    but keep the neo stuff, there will always be a niche crowd for that area. and besides thats where codex began right?

    Edited by Warlord, 27 July 2006 - 07:14 PM.


    #8 cokiwah

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:15 PM

    Have a new focus? Gunbound?

    #9 Gargar

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:15 PM

    Yep i prety much am done with neopets like many others, i guess as people grow older they tend to like neopets less. tongue.gif

    Expanding would be good, i could acualy go out of general chat and places liek that. tongue.gif

    Just dont turn into a mpc...

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:18 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 09:16 PM) View Post

    That's the community, however. The site's services do focus on Neopets hacks.

    Why not broaden it and have NeoCodex become a general game hacking group. The Team Xecutor of online games. Eh?!


    general game hacking= mpcforum.de scary.

    Edited by Gargar, 27 July 2006 - 07:18 PM.


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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:20 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 10:16 PM) View Post

    That's the community, however. The site's services do focus on Neopets hacks.

    Why not broaden it and have NeoCodex become a general game hacking group. The Team Xecutor of online games. Eh?!

    I like that idea, we would have a wide variety of members here for different things but they would all eventually start posting in general chat. Our activity would go up as well as our membership.

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:23 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 10:20 PM) View Post

    With a CodexCheck on the programs, and the administration continue running the site the way they are, it shouldn't be a problem desu?

    I agree, we have superb staff, we won't turn into them.

    #13 dolphinbomb

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:42 PM

    Wow, SL. The way you said that, almost sounded as if we're in a war, and your trying to keep morale up. biggrin.gif

    For one, I'll say I love Codex the way it is, but I definitely wouldn't mind some kind of expansion. Neopets seems rather tired nowadays.. we didn't even get as many members as I thought we would once regs were open (unless I'm completely oblivious.. I don't think it was nearly as bad as other times, like Christmas '05).

    And of course, like Warlord said, keep the neopets area there. It's what Codex started on, and there will always be people looking for it.

    As for expansion, I think more focus on other online games (MapleStory, Gunbound, etc) would be a good start.

    #14 pyke

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 08:12 PM

    Expand our graphics and programming aspects and try on another game perhaps?

    #15 ShadowLink64

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 08:21 PM

    QUOTE(simon @ Jul 27 2006, 10:19 PM) View Post

    Welcome to Post 5 - 17 haha.gif

    Well, we'll have to discuss this then if you think taking on a new focus on the side is a good idea for the place. tongue.gif It's up to you all. tongue.gif

    #16 pyke

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 08:24 PM

    QUOTE(ShadowLink64 @ Jul 27 2006, 10:21 PM) View Post


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    On a different note, we believe that in order to provide a suitable environment for this, a bit of board organization needs to happen which is why we have a few things planned. tongue.gif It may take a while to make some of this possible, but I think it will make things a lot better for the future.

    Interesting. I am intrigued at what these things could be.

    Also, awesome point simon. I like the way you think tongue.gif

    #17 Raui

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 10:06 PM

    I agree with simon we should branch out into some other free play games.

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:53 PM

    The suspence at the end of that post is killing me! tongue.gif What're you guys going to do!?

    Nah, seriously, good post happy.gif. I agree with Simon, Maplestory Hacking is pretty huge at the mo, but I think something about a patch has made people legit or something? I can't remember the details, I don't hack tongue.gif. That could have already changed for all I know...

    #19 dolphinbomb

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    Posted 27 July 2006 - 11:56 PM

    QUOTE(Eeyore @ Jul 27 2006, 11:53 PM) View Post

    The suspence at the end of that post is killing me! tongue.gif What're you guys going to do!?

    Nah, seriously, good post happy.gif. I agree with Simon, Maplestory Hacking is pretty huge at the mo, but I think something about a patch has made people legit or something? I can't remember the details, I don't hack tongue.gif. That could have already changed for all I know...

    I think the whole "legit" thing was the fact that snails dropped Ilbis after the patch. It's been fixed now, to the best of my knowledge.

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 12:03 AM

    QUOTE(dolphinbomb @ Jul 28 2006, 08:56 AM) View Post

    I think the whole "legit" thing was the fact that snails dropped Ilbis after the patch. It's been fixed now, to the best of my knowledge.


    Ilbis? What's that?

    Ahh right, nevermind then, like I said, I don't really follow hacking things tongue.gif.

    #21 Silk

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 01:00 AM

    I'm in agreement with Simon. Focussing on general game hacking (for free games) would give us something to strive for as a community. We've already dominated the Neopets scene, let's aim to dominate the MapleStory scene. How about the Gunbound scene? We need something to set our sights on, a goal, to spark everyone's determination and regain that sense of unity.

    QUOTE(Eeyore @ Jul 28 2006, 09:03 AM) View Post

    Ilbis? What's that?

    Ahh right, nevermind then, like I said, I don't really follow hacking things tongue.gif.

    Ilbis aren't hacking things tongue.gif They're a type of those rechargeable shuriken things that are come by quite rarely.

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 04:48 AM

    I've been trying to expand and reorganise the Maple section...
    Hydro doesn't seem too enthused though sad.gif

    Anyway! Expansion ftw!

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 09:45 AM

    QUOTE(dolphinbomb @ Jul 27 2006, 10:42 PM) View Post

    For one, I'll say I love Codex the way it is, but I definitely wouldn't mind some kind of expansion.

    And of course, like Warlord said, keep the neopets area there. It's what Codex started on, and there will always be people looking for it.

    As for expansion, I think more focus on other online games (MapleStory, Gunbound, etc) would be a good start.

    I have to agree with what dolphinbomb said. I can't wait to see how Codex will turn out in the future happy.gif.

    #24 Ilya

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 01:04 PM

    we need changes to take place, so that the site will get a new energy..
    Same old things for a long time bring down the enrgy and make the people less active.. because they dont have that energy that there is something new..

    #25 Tim

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    Posted 28 July 2006 - 06:47 PM

    Great post. wink.gif I agree, when I first joined there seemed to be a lot more spirit around the boards. Like most of us said, I think expansion would be a great way to bring back the spirit and help improve the site.


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