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[pyke]

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The world really needs to start focusing more on the occurring climate changes .

Unchecked climate change would turn 200 million people into refugees, the largest migration in modern history, as their homes succumbed to drought or flood.

That's quite absurd. Hopefully some changes are introduced soon. Seems like a good time to start, rather then 10 years down the road when millions of people are flooded over or other such effects of global warming.

Your thoughts?

[Frizzle]

There's no visable and or scientific proof that we have caused global warming. Infact according to science, we should be going through a climate change anyway since the Earth usually goes through changes every couple of million years?

[Hawk]

pollution, ill move to mexico
note: i love this smilie

So you will move to a more polluted place? The logic behind that is beyond me.

ITS MY SMILEY BITCH -slaps-

[pyke]

There's no visable and or scientific proof that we have caused global warming. Infact according to science, we should be going through a climate change anyway since the Earth usually goes through changes every couple of million years?

The earths already the hottest it has been in millions of years and it's still growing hotter . At this rate we're in serious shit in the coming decades xD

And jocxo that is insane . It's already hot enough in california XD.

[Hawk]

i heard it was hot here in california during the summer XD they said it was up to 110 F
i was in mexico...it was 115-120 F when my friend called to tell me that it was 109 F XDDDDDDDDDDD i remember i day when it was extremly hot and high humidity and people that didnt have air conditioners in there homes (really really porr people that live in small shacks) wold go to a supermarcket

Excuse me sir, youve been standing in front of that freezer for three hours now!

[Mitsufumi]

According to my extra-curricular view, does not have the climatic change occurrence, or is not at least as a result of person's function. I believed that, this is a natural period, we need to stop blaming it in us, and we need to discover the explanation

[Redblade]

According to my extra-curricular view, does not have the climatic change occurrence, or is not at least as a result of person's function. I believed that, this is a natural period, we need to stop blaming it in us, and we need to discover the explanation

seriously i dont think it is the case. the Earth has seen an average of 5-10 degree celsius increase in the last 10 years. if this continues, my country(singapore) would reach the temperature of 40 degree celsius in 2 or so decades time. the constant increase in temperature is definitely not a natural period considering it does not stop at all.

[Mitsufumi]

seriously i dont think it is the case. the Earth has seen an average of 5-10 degree celsius increase in the last 10 years. if this continues, my country(singapore) would reach the temperature of 40 degree celsius in 2 or so decades time. the constant increase in temperature is definitely not a natural period considering it does not stop at all.

Any I meant is in the thousands several years, that constructs at the human knowledge. After we are unable to use the record to explain the history antecedent.

[Redblade]

flame at me all you want but...thank god for global warming i couldnt imagine how cold it would be right now without it i hope it would rise 10 degrees F for the average of the atmosphere...i like hot weather, me hates the coldness

now for flooding....i that would be horrific cuz im from the coast...or maybe it would be better cuz the ocean would be even closer...if animals are gonna die or get extinct..so be it
if california rips off the continent, ill move, pollution, ill move to mexico

think of things in a good way

note: i love this smilie

seriously i think its a irresponsible statement. you might enjoy it, but think of people living in Africa. the high tem[erature there had already had them suffering. the extinct in animals would only results in them having more insufficient food and many more to suffer or die.

LOL
40 C is hot but not as hot that you can say your gonna die, im used to 45 C , beyond that get in a air conditioned room

what is the normal temperatur in singapore?

it can get as high as 34 degree celsius. you could even sweat while walking before the sun even rises.

[Hawk]

the constant increase in temperature is definitely not a natural period considering it does not stop at all.

Have you taken a course with statistics?

Ever hear of this thing called extrapolation?

Its bad man, dont do it. You are not God, you have no way of telling if the temperature will continue to rise, or if it is caused by humans. So do not go beyond the boundries of the data set we currently have.

Hell, I could make the assumption that 500 years ago it was -450 degrees celsius because that fits the trend of "Earth has seen an average of 5-10 degree celsius increase in the last 10 years".

Obviously that did not happen, but see my point?

[Redblade]

Have you taken a course with statistics?

Ever hear of this thing called extrapolation?

Its bad man, dont do it. You are not God, you have no way of telling if the temperature will continue to rise, or if it is caused by humans. So do not go beyond the boundries of the data set we currently have.

Hell, I could make the assumption that 500 years ago it was -450 degrees celsius because that fits the trend of "Earth has seen an average of 5-10 degree celsius increase in the last 10 years".

Obviously that did not happen, but see my point?

I get it, but as you see, the increase in temperature only happens about a decade ago, as countries are advancing thru industries development. As a lot of them neglect the external cost of pollution produced and it is not taken into account as a cost, the industries tends to produce more than the socially optinum level as producers want to make as much money as possible. The increase in pollution ( not only by industries but also from the exhaust pipes from vehicles, especially those that are not do not even install catalytic converter in it) and usage of CFC products cause the ozone layer to have a hole resulting in global warming. More trees being cut down also results in more CO2 not being replenished. Increase in CO2 is thus also a major cause for global warming.

To summarise all, this trend happens only after we started developing/ modernizing.

[Hawk]

I get it, but as you see, the increase in temperature only happens about a decade ago, as countries are advancing thru industries development. As a lot of them neglect the external cost of pollution produced and it is not taken into account as a cost, the industries tends to produce more than the socially optinum level as producers want to make as much money as possible. The increase in pollution ( not only by industries but also from the exhaust pipes from vehicles, especially those that are not do not even install catalytic converter in it) and usage of CFC products cause the ozone layer to have a hole resulting in global warming. More trees being cut down also results in more CO2 not being replenished. Increase in CO2 is thus also a major cause for global warming.

To summarise all, this trend happens only after we started developing/ modernizing.

We were pumping CO2 and CFCs into the ozone like crazy in the 60s and 70s, the temperature was going down. Explain please?

I see no mention of the sun anywhere in your post. Incase you didnt know, the sun goes through periodic warmer/colder cycles. Say the earth is a car. Ignoring the sun is like ignoring the engine. Do you ignore your engine?

[foogie]

climate changes are inevitable, since technically we are still coming out of an ice age, according to a professor my sister had at U of A.

speaking of climate... I was talking to a new friend here in japan, he said winters here can get to as cold as -5 celcius.

I laughed in his face. and then I told him in Alberta alone, winters can get to around -60.

his reaction was comical.

[Bão]

It's going to be hell in a couple of decades in this generation's time. We are running out of resouces and the planet is heating up. What are we going to do in the next fifty years that could help to save millions of lives? Nothing if we don't start now.

[Redblade]

We were pumping CO2 and CFCs into the ozone like crazy in the 60s and 70s, the temperature was going down. Explain please?

I see no mention of the sun anywhere in your post. Incase you didnt know, the sun goes through periodic warmer/colder cycles. Say the earth is a car. Ignoring the sun is like ignoring the engine. Do you ignore your engine?

hmm i must have forgotten about the Sun
but anyway CO2 were released in the 60s and 70s but the temperature did not rise as there is still sufficient rainforest in the world to help take in CO2 and replenish it with O2. But in the last 1/2 decades. the Amazon forest, one of the biggest in the world, is being wiped out at an amazingly alarming rate due to the south american countries industrializing. Therefore it results in fewer and fewer rainforests being able to replenish the CO2 we produced.

It's going to be hell in a couple of decades in this generation's time. We are running out of resouces and the planet is heating up. What are we going to do in the next fifty years that could help to save millions of lives? Nothing if we don't start now.

Agree. Our undoings might cause the next generations to suffer.

[Rush]

flame at me all you want but...thank god for global warming i couldnt imagine how cold it would be right now without it i hope it would rise 10 degrees F for the average of the atmosphere...i like hot weather, me hates the coldness

now for flooding....i that would be horrific cuz im from the coast...or maybe it would be better cuz the ocean would be even closer...if animals are gonna die or get extinct..so be it
if california rips off the continent, ill move, pollution, ill move to mexico

think of things in a good way

note: i love this smilie

If you want a hotter place, move to the Philippines. You'll get two seasons, dry and wet season. Well the dry season is like moist.
I want winter. -goes to the ref to scrape some *snow*- <- kidding about the ref part.

Edited by Rush, 30 October 2006 - 05:57 AM.

[Fatal]

flame at me all you want but...thank god for global warming i couldnt imagine how cold it would be right now without it i hope it would rise 10 degrees F for the average of the atmosphere...i like hot weather, me hates the coldness

now for flooding....i that would be horrific cuz im from the coast...or maybe it would be better cuz the ocean would be even closer...if animals are gonna die or get extinct..so be it
if california rips off the continent, ill move, pollution, ill move to mexico

think of things in a good way

note: i love this smilie

thats nice for you, in las vegas it already hits the mid 100's cant get much hotter

reason i believe global warming: carbon dioxide goes up, heat rises, make sense to me, watch the movie "an inconvenient truth" if you want it explained

[Cam]

The ice will melt, it will flood the earth..
We will die!

[radicaldude]

Glad that the world is starting to take some notice Now if only a certain prime minister would get off his lazy behind and do something... >.>

[Redblade]

Glad that the world is starting to take some notice Now if only a certain prime minister would get off his lazy behind and do something... >.>

the thing is, most of them have acknowledged it, but they arent doing anything about it to stop making it worse.