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Poll: What option do you think will work best? (33 member(s) have cast votes)

Which option for new member advancement do you think seems the best?

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#1 Nick

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 07:54 PM

If you feel another option should be added just say so and I'll add it.

#2 Sean

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE(Kitsune @ Nov 3 2006, 09:56 PM) View Post

Personally I think that the 1 post system prevented the sheer amount of spam that has been happening. I think a 1 post requirement means they have to at least look around the place, if only the intro forum... At first I thought 5 posts would be a good idea, but the large amount of spam appearing doesn't seem to have really settled down.

Yeah.. Pretty much.

#3 nox

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:08 PM

admins don't come in here anyways.

#4 Plew

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:10 PM

They can be a member if they have at least 1 post per day thumbsup.gif

#5 Shin

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE(Plew @ Nov 4 2006, 12:10 AM) View Post

They can be a member if they have at least 1 post per day thumbsup.gif


Hmm... a PPD requirement of 1 seems reasonable.

Edited by shin, 03 November 2006 - 09:15 PM.


#6 Mr. Hobo

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:16 PM

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A cool feature would be one that's like the rep system except only Private members (or higher) -rep and it only regular members (Not advanced) can be -repped and once you lose 5 rep you can't use programs anymore o.0


Said by me and I'm too tired to re-write.

Applications are too much work and making a higher minimum post count will increase the quantity of posts at the cost of the quality of the posts


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Edited by Mr. Hobo, 03 November 2006 - 09:17 PM.


#7 chalow

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 09:27 PM

imo not that it counts for anything but... i think a lower number like 1-5 is reasonable forcign someone to look around and get familiar with the boards and if the better programs are restricted to the more prestigious ranks than the people just coming for the programs will get semi-useless ones anyway dont get me wrong i love all the programs but if profit right now isnt that great

#8 ZERO

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 10:15 PM

Stop posting these damn topics.

Admins have seen it and are probably discussing it. Probably annoys them to constantly see topics about it?

#9 Curse

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE(ZERO @ Nov 3 2006, 10:15 PM) View Post

Stop posting these damn topics.

Admins have seen it and are probably discussing it. Probably annoys them to constantly see topics about it?


Agreed,

Anyways, i think we shouldn't have any post count increment in the introduction's forum. Also, only allow downloads when you become an advanced member, maybe?

#10 stirlingL

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:29 PM

25 to 50 posts, then apply

#11 ZERO

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:44 PM

Cheap easy solution:

Give members crap downloads
Advanced members downloads
Private good
Retired good

just like that smile.gif

#12 AnnaBella

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Posted 03 November 2006 - 11:56 PM

Maybe not have an "application", so to speak, but a higher post count and have members that are willing to look over the posts to see if they are spam or not and then the member would be allowed to DL if their posts were OK.

Since I lurk most of the time anyway, i would be willing to help. It would take pressure off of the admins and other staff, and help insure quality of posts at the same time.

Just my thoughts. lol

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#13 Frizzle

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:26 AM

Erm, no posts. What harm do leechers do? Other then giving us more members and boosting us up the big board charts?

#14 Wicked

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:28 AM

I still think that it should be like 100+ so that way they can't get all the posts they need without spamming. That way if they do try to spam we can ban them or delete their name...

#15 Waser Lave

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:38 AM

We don't want to drive new members away (which is what would happen with the 3rd option), we just need to find a way to prevent them from spamming in order to get access to the programs.

This is why i still think my idea of taking 2 off a person's post count for each spam message which they post will help. If someone posts 5 spam messages to get the programs, they will end up on -10 posts meaning that they will then have to make 15 non-spam posts to get access to the programs again.

After a while, the new members will get the message that spam isn't tolerated and they will hopefully decide to integrate with the community.

It's clear that the current way of dealing with people who spam to get access to programs isn't going to help. For example, gabriela_raven, they spammed 5 messages and their punishment was a 24-hour posting suspension...it's not as if that punishment is going to bother them.

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Edited by Laser Wave, 04 November 2006 - 05:40 AM.


#16 Wicked

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:58 AM

QUOTE(Laser Wave @ Nov 4 2006, 08:38 AM) View Post

We don't want to drive new members away (which is what would happen with the 3rd option), we just need to find a way to prevent them from spamming in order to get access to the programs.

This is why i still think my idea of taking 2 off a person's post count for each spam message which they post will help. If someone posts 5 spam messages to get the programs, they will end up on -10 posts meaning that they will then have to make 15 non-spam posts to get access to the programs again.

After a while, the new members will get the message that spam isn't tolerated and they will hopefully decide to integrate with the community.

It's clear that the current way of dealing with people who spam to get access to programs isn't going to help. For example, gabriela_raven, they spammed 5 messages and their punishment was a 24-hour posting suspension...it's not as if that punishment is going to bother them.

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hmm I haven't thought of that. That is a great idea

#17 Robert

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 07:44 AM

Just to let you know that the staff and administration do look at these kind of topics and there are some great ideas in here happy.gif keep them comming.

#18 palmirastar

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 09:22 AM

Three posts... is enough! smile.gif

#19 travis

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE(palmirastar @ Nov 4 2006, 10:22 AM) View Post

Three posts... is enough! smile.gif


I can see why YOU are saying that..-.-

#20 Nick

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE(palmirastar @ Nov 4 2006, 01:22 PM) View Post

Three posts... is enough! smile.gif


Figures that a new member would post eventually. dry.gif

#21 ShadowLink64

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(nox @ Nov 3 2006, 10:08 PM) View Post

admins don't come in here anyways.

LOL, you think I don't read these? tongue.gif We are evaluating the current adjustment to see if it's doing any good or not. Personally, I haven't seen a significant increase in activity because of it, but only more work. The thing that bothers me though is that we've let it get out of hand and that we are getting an enormous amount of leechers due to our very low requirements. 1we8.gif

#22 Frizzle

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE(ShadowLink64 @ Nov 4 2006, 07:31 PM) View Post

The thing that bothers me though is that we've let it get out of hand and that we are getting an enormous amount of leechers due to our very low requirements. 1we8.gif


Why is that such a huge problem?


#23 ShadowLink64

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:37 AM

QUOTE(Frizzle @ Nov 4 2006, 12:33 PM) View Post

Why is that such a huge problem?

It would be nice to see a bit of return benefit for us coming from usage of the programs... with the old system there was no acknowledgment for the work put into the programs (return activity on the board or anything) as all they do is leech and leave with the rate of members actually staying and contributing something (whether it be activity, programming, GFX, etc..) very low.

Now, I realize the fact that increasing posts required to download may not be the best way to achieve this. It was something that we wanted to try to see if it would have a beneficial effect for the community, and we are now having more of an idea as to what effect the restrictions are causing on the board.

#24 faerie_dreamer

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:45 AM

I think just one post will be ok... well, it´s not me who decide ^^

#25 Frizzle

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Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:47 AM

So basically you want the programmers to get acknowledged for their hard work and that the leechers don't do that?

Well forcing them to post won't make the appreciate the programmers (well most anyway), because 5 posts is such a low number it can easily be acomplished in a few minutes.

See I don't agree with forcing people to post to get programs (making them work towards a different rank, a whole different kettle of fish), I believe you need to make it so that post count is undoable in a day.

If people need to post so much that they need to spend more then 24 hours (ok you know what I mean) here, they'll get to know the site alot more, instead of rushing around the introductions board and causing more work for the moderators.

You can sling out different amount of numbers to post to 60, 70, 80.. it doesn't matter as all of these small numbers are achievable fairly soon and so as soon as their spamming is done they download and leave.

Also the PPD system won't work. I worked out a loophole in it, all a person needs to do is post in the introductions thread when they make an account and can download alll the programs. Then if they go inactive, they can make a new account and do it again. So really it's not worth it.

Sorry I can't think of any new ideas, but then I just believe the odd prune here or there for members who have under 10 posts wouldn't hurt and this activity thing isn't need.

Also SL64, what happened to programmer, GFX team etc appreication days? Are they still around? Because you could make the finance team or contest team, or news team do something about it?


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