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#1 Fatal

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 04:56 PM

I was thinking, if its not like this already (idk havent been there in a long while) well heres the idea:


Make some type of ebay-like feedback section, but instead of feedback, make it yes or no... then a text box with your reason or w/e (which would post on that persons topic) which is somewhat like ebay, then have it so you can access the rest of the people in your usercp, so you dont have to look if you've voted or not, making the system easier,better, and a lot more organized

#2 Sean

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:00 PM

Wait.. what?

Could you make what you are trying to say more understandable?

#3 Insanedragonz

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE(Sean @ Dec 16 2006, 05:00 PM) View Post
Wait.. what?

Could you make what you are trying to say more understandable?


I think he mean like fame/rep system. The more you have the easier you can get in private. Well, that is how I interpreted out of his Paragraph dry.gif

#4 Sean

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE(insanedragonz @ Dec 16 2006, 05:09 PM) View Post
I think he mean like fame/rep system. The more you have the easier you can get in private. Well, that is how I interpreted out of his Paragraph dry.gif

lol.
I think our method of voting is fine as is. Should normal members even know how we actually vote for people any ways? blink.gif

#5 Mr. Hobo

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:21 PM

That is our current voting system except the text box is our post (we have a discussion period) and our yes or no is a poll (after discussion). Only difference is is checking who you voted for except that's kind of pointless since it tells you if you already voted (in the person's thread)

#6 Regental

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:42 PM

Yea well the current method is kinda shit since all it means is to suck up or be friends with the private and your in. I mean seriously, who would vote against their friend to get into private I wouldn't. But I don't have any new methods, but I'm just throwing some stuff out there.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Regental @ Dec 16 2006, 05:42 PM) View Post
Yea well the current method is kinda shit since all it means is to suck up or be friends with the private and your in. I mean seriously, who would vote against their friend to get into private I wouldn't. But I don't have any new methods, but I'm just throwing some stuff out there.



I would vote against my friends if i dont think they are ready.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE(MintFuzzBall @ Dec 16 2006, 07:52 PM) View Post
I would vote against my friends if i dont think they are ready.

I had to in the last votes.

So your theory is shot to shit Regental.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE(redlion @ Dec 16 2006, 10:01 PM) View Post
I had to in the last votes.

So your theory is shot to shit Regental.

Mmhm same here.
And if I'm not mistaken they were thinking of another method of doing the applications but I don't know the progress on that/if they just scratched it.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE(redlion @ Dec 16 2006, 09:01 PM) View Post
I had to in the last votes.

So your theory is shot to shit Regental.


Yeah, but you are definitely biased towards them.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 07:20 PM

QUOTE(Tim @ Dec 16 2006, 10:39 PM) View Post
Yeah, but you are definitely biased towards them.

Yeah, but we still said no if they did not deserve to get Private Member based on how they were on Codex. We set aside our biased opinions.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE(redlion @ Dec 16 2006, 08:01 PM) View Post
I had to in the last votes.

I did the same thing this time. My first vote actually. He wouldnt have made it either way, but I just didnt think he was quite ready.

#13 Fatal

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 09:11 PM

Ok I dont know what you guys think I said, but here is me re-wording it


IT IS STILL GOING TO ONLY BE PRIVATE MEMBERS. (regular members are NOT going to have anything to do with this)


I was thinking in the PRIVATE MEMBER'S usercp's, someone could make a mod so that it shows all of the pending applications you need to accept (voting yes) or decline (voting no) for that person. You would still be able to go into the persons topic and discuss, its just a more organized way and is easier because lets say you vote/discuss 3 applications out of a total of 20 applications, but you had to go to the store with only finishing 3-4, you come back and forget the ones you did, so this would eliminate that since it wouldnt be in your usercp anymore (since its being deleted as a pending app)

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 09:17 PM

There was an app mod in the works, I dunno what happened to it blink.gif

#15 redlion

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:14 PM

QUOTE(Tim @ Dec 16 2006, 08:39 PM) View Post
Yeah, but you are definitely biased towards them.

Thats the whole point though, isn't it? We vote in people that are agreeable, or at the very least, people that we can agree to disagree with. I'll tell you right now, I've voted in people that I didn't like at the time. Hawk and marine, for instance, have dynamically different viewpoints than me, yet when it time to vote on them, I voted yes because they deserved it.

People aren't as biased as you'd think.
QUOTE(Fatal @ Dec 16 2006, 11:11 PM) View Post
Ok I dont know what you guys think I said, but here is me re-wording it
IT IS STILL GOING TO ONLY BE PRIVATE MEMBERS. (regular members are NOT going to have anything to do with this)
I was thinking in the PRIVATE MEMBER'S usercp's, someone could make a mod so that it shows all of the pending applications you need to accept (voting yes) or decline (voting no) for that person. You would still be able to go into the persons topic and discuss, its just a more organized way and is easier because lets say you vote/discuss 3 applications out of a total of 20 applications, but you had to go to the store with only finishing 3-4, you come back and forget the ones you did, so this would eliminate that since it wouldnt be in your usercp anymore (since its being deleted as a pending app)

Thats just unnecessary. The current system works just as well. Most private members get the idea that the only thing they have to do as private members is vote, and they're happy to do so. Besides, it adds another step and page load to voting, which isn't necessary.

QUOTE(Travis @ Dec 16 2006, 11:17 PM) View Post
There was an app mod in the works, I dunno what happened to it blink.gif

It died. Along with the scavenger hunt mod, the codies mod, the trophy case mod, and many others. Sl can only do so much... and there are always more pressing things than private.

#16 Tim

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE(Redlion)
Thats the whole point though, isn't it? We vote in people that are agreeable, or at the very least, people that we can agree to disagree with. I'll tell you right now, I've voted in people that I didn't like at the time. Hawk and marine, for instance, have dynamically different viewpoints than me, yet when it time to vote on them, I voted yes because they deserved it.


I wasn't clear on this; I was talking about friends you know in person. If you know them in real life, you're very much inclined to voting yes on their application, no matter how good of a member they are.
I do agree with you, though - that is the whole point. Sorry for not making that clear.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE(Tim @ Dec 17 2006, 12:43 AM) View Post
I wasn't clear on this; I was talking about friends you know in person. If you know them in real life, you're very much inclined to voting yes on their application, no matter how good of a member they are.
I do agree with you, though - that is the whole point. Sorry for not making that clear.

Ah, well, thats a different matter. But seeing as most people on codex are from scattered places around the globe (with the exception of a small gathering of codexians in southern California) so it is severely unlikely that more than one or two people will ever know an applicant in real life.

#18 Fatal

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:47 PM

QUOTE(redlion @ Dec 16 2006, 10:14 PM) View Post
Thats the whole point though, isn't it? We vote in people that are agreeable, or at the very least, people that we can agree to disagree with. I'll tell you right now, I've voted in people that I didn't like at the time. Hawk and marine, for instance, have dynamically different viewpoints than me, yet when it time to vote on them, I voted yes because they deserved it.

People aren't as biased as you'd think.

Thats just unnecessary. The current system works just as well. Most private members get the idea that the only thing they have to do as private members is vote, and they're happy to do so. Besides, it adds another step and page load to voting, which isn't necessary.
It died. Along with the scavenger hunt mod, the codies mod, the trophy case mod, and many others. Sl can only do so much... and there are always more pressing things than private.

um it LESSENS pages you need to load actually. Unless you vote for everyone member on one page right now already, it would be a smaller amount of pages needed to load blink.gif

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE(Fatal @ Dec 17 2006, 12:47 AM) View Post
um it LESSENS pages you need to load actually. Unless you vote for everyone member on one page right now already, it would be a smaller amount of pages needed to load blink.gif

Instead of going to a single page and discussing, reading other peoples opinions, and voting, you'd have to go to 1 to read the app, then goto 2 (your CP) to vote. Unless I'm totally mistaken on your method?

#20 Fatal

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 11:08 PM

yea you somewhat are because your user cp links you to the app


so instead of clicking on each application through lots of threads all messy, you click on the applications you have to still vote on, instead of accidentally re-clicking an application and figuring out you already voted

Edited by Fatal, 16 December 2006 - 11:09 PM.


#21 travis

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 12:12 AM

Here's what I'm thinking would be good...

Inside UserCP, have a list with all the pending applications that you haven't voted on.
From there, leave it to the normal system.
Just an easier system to access / remind you of applications to be voted on.
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If that's not what you were trying to say, Robby...if it was, I made it more understandable!

#22 Fatal

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 12:13 AM

exactly but you didnt list the details that people apparently need to know such as clicking the members name to go to their app


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