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#26 nox

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:20 PM

QUOTE(Hawk @ Jan 7 2007, 12:14 AM) View Post
Wrong PETA, btw- I want to get that bumper sticker XD

I'm talking about how they act like vandals. Also, how they act at fishing tournaments. I've been there before, it is by no stretch of the imagination 'fun'

Here, just read this 1we8.gif

of course some people overdo things, but the leaders are not the ones enforcing it..it's the members of a group. "they" is a bad way to label, since you can take one situation and forever hold a group to that. it's an orginazation that stretches world-wide and has many different kinds of people. smile.gif

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    #27 Hawk

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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:22 PM

    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 7 2007, 12:20 AM) View Post
    of course some people overdo things, but the leaders are not the ones enforcing it..it's the members of a group. "they" is a bad way to label, since you can take one situation and forever hold a group to that. it's an orginazation that stretches world-wide and has many different kinds of people. smile.gif

    True sad.gif Stupid extremists 1we8.gif

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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:36 PM

    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 6 2007, 07:22 PM) View Post
    have to deal with PETA? how about how the rest of the united states has to deal with inbred hillbillies who have nothing better to do than to slaughter innocent animals for sport?/ i can't really begin to understand how you could think abuse to animals is ethical, maybe just going by the "i know it's bad, just don't really care...". and that's your opinion, it's also understandable that you may be too ignorant to ever have any moral values..but try and respect how "the other side of the pond" feels angry.gif



    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 7 2007, 12:20 AM) View Post
    of course some people overdo things, but the leaders are not the ones enforcing it..it's the members of a group. "they" is a bad way to label, since you can take one situation and forever hold a group to that. it's an orginazation that stretches world-wide and has many different kinds of people. smile.gif


    So it's ok for PETA to have different views among it's member, but everyone who hunts is an inbred hillbilly?

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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:48 PM

    QUOTE(Äli @ Jan 7 2007, 01:36 AM) View Post
    So it's ok for PETA to have different views among it's member, but everyone who hunts is an inbred hillbilly?

    really out of place analogy, maybe i'm missing your point but they seem completeeely different. both do relate to stereotyping, but i was joking/angry..of course not every hillbilly hunts, guns do cost money you know!

    the organization PETA is much like the bible, a set of guidelines; a base of common viewpoints. but people who kill innocent creatures for fun are ruthless murderers. period.

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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 10:54 PM

    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 7 2007, 12:48 AM) View Post
    really out of place analogy, maybe i'm missing your point but they seem completeeely different. both do relate to stereotyping, but i was joking/angry..of course not every hillbilly hunts, guns do cost money you know!

    the organization PETA is much like the bible, a set of guidelines; a base of common viewpoints. but people who kill innocent creatures for fun are ruthless murderers. period.


    Ok, hunting and fishing is fun. If your a good hunter, animals don't suffer much. Most people have the animals(such as deer) processed to use for food. Sorry if there's enjoyment in that, pretty sure you ate the meat that came from a slaughterhouse. thumbsup.gif

    Edited by Äli, 06 January 2007 - 10:54 PM.


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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 11:03 PM

    QUOTE(Äli @ Jan 7 2007, 01:54 AM) View Post
    Ok, hunting and fishing is fun. If your a good hunter, animals don't suffer much. Most people have the animals(such as deer) processed to use for food. Sorry if there's enjoyment in that, pretty sure you ate the meat that came from a slaughterhouse. thumbsup.gif

    fishing is terrible!

    HOW TO FISH:

    1. hook an animal by it's neck, the more it bleeds the better!
    2. bring it out of the water, throw it in a bucket with the other fish, it will soon suffocate.
    3. rinse&repeat.

    hunting is terrible as well, don't even try to tell me that most "good hunters" kill with one shot; because that's completely false. i'm sure even the best shooter in the world hits without a 1HK..leading the animal to a slow painful death.

    slaughterhouses are humane, the animals live peacefully for their life; then are brought to a place where they are knocked/stunned out so they cannot feel pain, and then killed. good luck trying to make that fit in with the others smile.gif

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    Posted 06 January 2007 - 11:19 PM

    QUOTE(Hawk @ Jan 6 2007, 09:40 PM) View Post
    How do you even know you were researching the right facts when you have the D.A.R.E. acronym wrong?

    So sue me it was 6 years ago. dry.gif I just researched some stuff on cannabis and it didn't seem as bad as they made it out to be. tongue.gif

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 06:59 AM

    WTF, get your own thread about PETA, infact I made a thread linked to PETA. Post in that. Inbreds.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 08:27 AM

    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 7 2007, 01:03 AM) View Post
    fishing is terrible!

    HOW TO FISH:

    1. hook an animal by it's neck, the more it bleeds the better!
    2. bring it out of the water, throw it in a bucket with the other fish, it will soon suffocate.
    3. rinse&repeat.

    Fishing is not terrible...
    1. Hook a fish by its mouth/lip
    2. Bring it out of the water for about 30 seconds max. Unhook it and weigh it.
    3. Throw it back into the water (Which is what I do, Catch & release ftw) or put it in the livewell.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:10 AM

    QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 7 2007, 08:59 AM) View Post
    WTF, get your own thread about PETA, infact I made a thread linked to PETA. Post in that. Inbreds.

    Hey, you hijacked my thread about Lt. Watada and talked about Nazis. Sorta the same thing going on there.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:22 AM

    QUOTE(speaker @ Jan 7 2007, 01:03 AM) View Post
    fishing is terrible!

    HOW TO FISH:

    1. hook an animal by it's neck, the more it bleeds the better!
    2. bring it out of the water, throw it in a bucket with the other fish, it will soon suffocate.
    3. rinse&repeat.

    hunting is terrible as well, don't even try to tell me that most "good hunters" kill with one shot; because that's completely false. i'm sure even the best shooter in the world hits without a 1HK..leading the animal to a slow painful death.

    slaughterhouses are humane, the animals live peacefully for their life; then are brought to a place where they are knocked/stunned out so they cannot feel pain, and then killed. good luck trying to make that fit in with the others smile.gif


    This just screams ignorance. As hawk posted, you hook fish by thier lips/mouth- and they barely bleed. And yes, there are one-hit kills in hunting- both my mom and brother have gotten them. Yeah, sometime you miss, and down a deer and have to shoot it again, or you barely wound it and have to track it, but the death is less painful than let's say, them getting hit by a car or starving to death. Hunting and fishing do serve purposes, other than being an sport.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 09:29 AM

    QUOTE(Hawk @ Jan 6 2007, 04:37 PM) View Post
    Keep that shit on your side of the pond, we already have to deal with PETA. More people preaching bullshit will be unbearable.


    lmfao at PETA

    About hunting, it's called survival of the fittest and it's probably been going on since the beginning of time.

    Edited by rcadble, 07 January 2007 - 09:31 AM.


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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:02 AM

    QUOTE(rcadble @ Jan 7 2007, 11:29 AM) View Post
    lmfao at PETA

    About hunting, it's called survival of the fittest and it's probably been going on since the beginning of time.

    Except we aren't the fittest. We were simply the first ones to think that we didn't have to have claws on our body: we could use sticks instead. Guns don't make you fit. Now, if you can wrestle a bear into submission and kill him with your bare hands, yeah I'd call you fit.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:06 AM

    QUOTE(redlion @ Jan 7 2007, 12:02 PM) View Post
    Except we aren't the fittest. We were simply the first ones to think that we didn't have to have claws on our body: we could use sticks instead. Guns don't make you fit. Now, if you can wrestle a bear into submission and kill him with your bare hands, yeah I'd call you fit.

    Chuck Norris could do it xD thumbsup.gif

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 10:11 AM

    QUOTE(Hawk @ Jan 7 2007, 12:06 PM) View Post
    Chuck Norris could do it xD thumbsup.gif

    You know, he actually can't. I met his stunt double just last week. He might have started a martial art, but in the movies and TV shows, he had a double do everything. I'm training with this guy for my grappling class. Looks just like the guy tongue.gif

    #41 nox

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 12:27 PM

    QUOTE(rcadble @ Jan 7 2007, 12:29 PM) View Post
    lmfao at PETA

    About hunting, it's called survival of the fittest and it's probably been going on since the beginning of time.

    survival of the fittest? we as humans have no instinct to hunt prey, nor kill.

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    - Harvey Diamond

    p.s i am a vegan now smile.gif!

    QUOTE(Äli @ Jan 7 2007, 12:22 PM) View Post
    This just screams ignorance. As hawk posted, you hook fish by thier lips/mouth- and they barely bleed. And yes, there are one-hit kills in hunting- both my mom and brother have gotten them. Yeah, sometime you miss, and down a deer and have to shoot it again, or you barely wound it and have to track it, but the death is less painful than let's say, them getting hit by a car or starving to death. Hunting and fishing do serve purposes, other than being an sport.

    rofl, screams ignorance? to start, how can you make sure you're hooking their lips and mouth when you are above water and then are below? you can't, you can assume and hope but it's not set in stone. wow..i can't believe you're justifying murder with a comparison... also plz tell me what purpose basically stabbing a fish&then throwing it back into the water does?

    these animals were not created for humans, just like blacks were not created for whites, and women for men smile.gif

    Edited by speaker, 07 January 2007 - 12:27 PM.


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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 12:29 PM

    There is a thing called a food chain. End of story.
    And yes its in our DNA to kill and hunt, etc. What do you think the early humans did? Eat grass?

    Edit: this thread is so gone bringing it back would be in possible xD

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

    QUOTE(Alex @ Jan 7 2007, 03:29 PM) View Post
    There is a thing called a food chain. End of story.
    And yes its in our DNA to kill and hunt, etc. What do you think the early humans did? Eat grass?

    Edit: this thread is so gone bringing it back would be in possible xD

    humans (and all other omnivores) are opportunistic eaters, if it is available then we will most likely go for it. if they both are, we can make a choice. in the past, the survival of the fittest was true in our situation, sometimes even coming to 'eat or be eaten'.

    now about 350,000 years later we DO have that choice. whether you argue saying "humans jaws are designed for flesh eating" means nothing, guns are designed for killing yet that doesn't justify much smile.gif

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 12:50 PM

    Sorry someone just said Fishing was barabaric or putting in a negative light next to hunting. My Uncle and cousin are expert fishers, yet they don't harm the animal. They throw a bit of bait on the end of the hook in the water. Fish eats the bait and the hook does get get caught in the fish's mouth and they drag it out, take a picture of it, if it's big enough and throw it back in. Bit boring, but hey, doesn't harm anyone right?

    Before you say it harms the fish, there is an onging debate about if fish can feel miniscule pain or not. Some say that fish cannot feel pain that small, as it's brain cannot recogonise that pain if it keeps coming back for more. If it does feel pain over and over again, yet keeps going back, well it's a bit stupid and that's the price you pay for being a bit dull. A bit of pain at the back of your mouth.


    Also, hunting is on a different level, killing animals for the fun of it is just plain stupid. Anyone who does it is a retard and there is no justifiable claims to hunting.

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    Could be worse, did you know cannabis is highly addictive, and makes you smoke a bit of cannabis, then shooting heroine left right and center

    Neither did I but apparently according to a leaflet i read its all true


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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:07 PM

    QUOTE(Frizzle @ Jan 7 2007, 03:50 PM) View Post
    Sorry someone just said Fishing was barabaric or putting in a negative light next to hunting. My Uncle and cousin are expert fishers, yet they don't harm the animal. They throw a bit of bait on the end of the hook in the water. Fish eats the bait and the hook does get get caught in the fish's mouth and they drag it out, take a picture of it, if it's big enough and throw it back in. Bit boring, but hey, doesn't harm anyone right?

    Before you say it harms the fish, there is an onging debate about if fish can feel miniscule pain or not. Some say that fish cannot feel pain that small, as it's brain cannot recogonise that pain if it keeps coming back for more. If it does feel pain over and over again, yet keeps going back, well it's a bit stupid and that's the price you pay for being a bit dull. A bit of pain at the back of your mouth.
    Also, hunting is on a different level, killing animals for the fun of it is just plain stupid. Anyone who does it is a retard and there is no justifiable claims to hunting.

    if it's thrown back in, i really don't have much of a problem with it, it's not a "nice" sport, you pull an animal out of the enviorment in which it can function and breathe for sport. go play tennis smile.gif.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:09 PM

    You act like fishes are meatballs and can't take it. They forget about it after 5-10 seconds, so what's the big deal?

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:13 PM

    thing is its all very well saying that hunting is cruel, but its how humans would of lived a long time ago... It keeps us conected to our primal instincts and stuff... And lets face it its better then battery farming

    #49 shabba

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    HAHA - I didnt look at this topic for ages because i thought it would be another reason why not to do drugs. I guess I should never judge a book by it cover... Anyways damn I wish I saw them.

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    Posted 07 January 2007 - 01:16 PM

    People make their own decisions in life, so let them make whatever decisions they want to. You are responsible for you and no one else, and there should never be people trying to force their ideas on you either.


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