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[Frizzle]

I kinda of agree with you Urban, but there's nothing wrong with giving helpful advice. I would advise people not to smoke, but I wouldn't take the cigarettes from them. Get me?

[nox]

You act like fishes are meatballs and can't take it. They forget about it after 5-10 seconds, so what's the big deal?

i don't know personally, i for one have never been a fish so tbh i don't really know how they feel or how big their brains are (you seem to be claiming you are one, so i can just about imagine ). i really wouldn't want to be fooled daily into thinking i have a possible meal, only to find out i was tricked into pain&time without oxygen.

[Frizzle]

Do your research then before claiming theories as facts

[nox]

facts... that you're stupid? how much more evidence is needed?

Edited by speaker, 07 January 2007 - 01:31 PM.

[Alicia]

facts... that you're stupid? how much more evidence is needed?

Can I ask what you gained by saying that? Lee was just saying that you need to distinguish between fact and theory, there's no need to be calling anyone stupid. We all have our own opinions....do you lack the maturity to accept his, just because you don't agree?

[Frizzle]

In angling, it is sometimes expected or required that fish all be returned to the water (catch and release). The practice, however, is viewed by some with disapproval as they consider it unethical to inflict pain on a fish for fun or sport and not for reasons of capturing food. Anglers deny this charge, pointing out that fish commonly feed on hard and spiky prey items, and as such can be expected to have tough mouths, and also that some fish will re-take a lure they have just been hooked on, a behavior that is unlikely if being hooked were painful. There is also some research that shows certain types of fish such as catfish, do not have nerves around their mouth. They most likely do not have nerves in their mouths due to the fact that they eat animals such as crawfish that can pinch.

In a real sense, the suitability of catch and release is an ethical consideration and, as such, a science-based conclusion on the issue is unavailable. Scientific studies show a wide range of survival, depending on species, environmental conditions, fish density and research design (methodology). The difficulty of doing such experiments is closely linked to the fact that negative effects of being exposed to fishing gears develop over a long time. Keeping fish trapped over a long period of time creates a lot of noise which makes it hard to single out the effect of the catch from the effect of the chosen methodology. Nevertheless, several studies have now returned very high survival rates (95%+) for species caught on fly and lures, which generally tend to hook fish in the mouth and thus aid catch and release fishing.

Source: Wikipedia.

Like I said, do your researach as you're the one who looks stupid in this thread.

[nox]

In angling, it is sometimes expected or required that fish all be returned to the water (catch and release). The practice, however, is viewed by some with disapproval as they consider it unethical to inflict pain on a fish for fun or sport and not for reasons of capturing food. Anglers deny this charge, pointing out that fish commonly feed on hard and spiky prey items, and as such can be expected to have tough mouths, and also that some fish will re-take a lure they have just been hooked on, a behavior that is unlikely if being hooked were painful. There is also some research that shows certain types of fish such as catfish, do not have nerves around their mouth. They most likely do not have nerves in their mouths due to the fact that they eat animals such as crawfish that can pinch.

In a real sense, the suitability of catch and release is an ethical consideration and, as such, a science-based conclusion on the issue is unavailable. Scientific studies show a wide range of survival, depending on species, environmental conditions, fish density and research design (methodology). The difficulty of doing such experiments is closely linked to the fact that negative effects of being exposed to fishing gears develop over a long time. Keeping fish trapped over a long period of time creates a lot of noise which makes it hard to single out the effect of the catch from the effect of the chosen methodology. Nevertheless, several studies have now returned very high survival rates (95%+) for species caught on fly and lures, which generally tend to hook fish in the mouth and thus aid catch and release fishing.

Source: Wikipedia.

Like I said, do your researach as you're the one who looks stupid in this thread.

wikipedia is not a factual source, and in that part of the article there are no offsite external links nor did the writer cite any information. and unfortunately it seems that this cannot be proven, since

is closely linked to the fact that negative effects of being exposed to fishing gears develop over a long time

ali, i was joking..frizzle is the king of rude remarks and insults..pretty sure he knows i was as well

p.s wats a researach?

[Frizzle]

stop being a sarcastic fuck speaker, you know aswell as I do, i suck at spelling

Also, the facts I posted aren't just on wikipedia, but has been on the news in the UK countless times. So excuse me why I say. FUCK YOU


hehe.

btw, we should play poker when your acutally on msn and not afk.

http://www.smh.com.a...4725683181.html
http://www.abc.net.a...ts/s1733327.htm


btw couple of links you might want to read

Edited by noit_is_coo, 07 January 2007 - 02:15 PM.

[nox]

like i'm gonna trust an australian source..

Edited by speaker, 07 January 2007 - 02:23 PM.

[Frizzle]

Coming from an american? With your fox and CNN? for shame..

[redlion]

Coming from an american? With your fox and CNN? for shame..

CNN isn't actually that bad. Usually. They've done a few that I raised an eyebrow at, but mostly they're alright. Fox on the other hand...

[Frizzle]

Yea I gotta admit, other then CNN, ABC and FOX, I don't know any US news shows.

[redlion]

Yea I gotta admit, other then CNN, ABC and FOX, I don't know any US news shows.

NBC and CBS are the other two big ones. Fox is actually more sports broadcasting than news. They have something like 100 satellite channels devoted to sports. Of course, their news channel is so outrageously biased that that single channel is the one Fox is known for.

[Ives]

I love what Bill Hicks had to say about LSD.

Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on the news? To hear what it's all about, perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration … that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."

Or, for the extended version, < --- Watch the last three minutes of that.

People make their own decisions in life, so let them make whatever decisions they want to. You are responsible for you and no one else, and there should never be people trying to force their ideas on you either.

That's a Libertarian America that probably will never happen if the dicks in office keep on staying in office.

[Nick]

At least we have majority in the house and senate.

[Ives]

Libertarians and Democrats are two different things. =P

[Nick]

Sorry, I thought it said Liberal, and I kind of don't know anything about anything.

[nox]

I kind of don't know anything about anything.

qfe

[Nick]

qfe

Lol, why are you still allowed on this board?

[Frizzle]

Lol, why are you still allowed on this board?

Same reason you're still here. We let all inbreds on here.

[Nick]

Same reason you're still here. We let all inbreds on here.

LOLOLOL.