Today is 9/11
#26
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:37 AM
#27 Guest_Rambo_*
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:41 AM
#28
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:44 AM
Never forget, but i'm very sure we will eventually.
#29
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:47 AM
Never forget, but i'm very sure we will eventually.
*raises hand* I think I also know the exact time too.
Well naturally of course we will but it's still a very sensitive topic for some people
#30
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:50 AM
Well naturally of course we will but it's still a very sensitive topic for some people
Yes, myself included. I had a family friend that was holding a meeting at the WTC when the planes hit. they never recovered her body.
I do believe in "Never Forget", but there in absolutely no need to make a production of this. it's because of this big production that people are PROFITING off of this day. T-shirts, coins, badges, pictures, post cards, ect. the list goes on.
#31
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:55 AM
I do believe in "Never Forget", but there in absolutely no need to make a production of this. it's because of this big production that people are PROFITING off of this day. T-shirts, coins, badges, pictures, post cards, ect. the list goes on.
I could not agree with you more. I was also upset at how quickly they released a movie about it. They say the profits go to the victim's families but one must question how much. There are many scam charities around this nation - even with food banks (in fact my father is battling one right now).
#32
Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:55 AM
</expected flaming>
Well said Steph, well said.
#33
Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:21 AM
I was in 8th grade, taking the first History test of the year (ironically enough) One of the other teachers in the hallway came storming on the room, yelling to turn on the TV, the twin towers were hit. No sooner did we turn it on did the second tower get hit. We were awestruck. The rest of that day was miserable. More than half of my friends had lost someone that day, whether it was a friend or family member.
Proud to be a member of the USAF
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#34
Posted 11 September 2007 - 07:55 AM
It was sad, very sad. But everytime you bring it up, people get sad again.
(Not trying to add to that little war that went on above. Don't mean to offend anyone if I have)
#35
Posted 11 September 2007 - 08:43 AM
#37
Posted 11 September 2007 - 09:11 AM
Whoever he is, he's absolutely right. America has struggled to cope with the terrorist campaign of the last 6 years, we've had one for 10 times longer...and against less recognisable opponents (both white largely non-turban wearing peoples).
Regardless of that, I'll never forget 9/11 just as I won't forget the 26th December 2004 which was much, much worse.
#38 Guest_Rambo_*
Posted 11 September 2007 - 09:27 AM
Regardless of that, I'll never forget 9/11 just as I won't forget the 26th December 2004 which was much, much worse.
I forgot what you was on about then. (26th December) Then I Googled it and found this:
#39
Posted 11 September 2007 - 09:47 AM
Regardless of that, I'll never forget 9/11 just as I won't forget the 26th December 2004 which was much, much worse.
Yes, I understand and respect that, but to disregard a nations grief, just because theirs is worse is not only disrespectful, but distasteful as well.
#40
Posted 11 September 2007 - 10:56 AM
that's tough man, but i know where you're coming from - naturally living in the city you somehow know somebody who suffered from the 9/11 tragedy despite it being indirect, it's still very sad. my friend's father passed and a couple of my mom's co-workers were unfortunately killed.
it's disrespectful to the people who died as well as the US as a whole to think it's time to forget the tragedy. personally, i believe it goes past the US as people in unharmed countries need to understand that without a moments notice you or your family could be victim to something terrible, as we know history tends to repeat itself :\
#41
Posted 11 September 2007 - 11:24 AM
So new members are looked down upon for expressing their opinions?
Anyway, I'm not so sure about the letting go. Of course life goes on, that was not the only tragedy that's happened these last years and it's got more publicity than all the others put together, but who is to remember, if not us? The next generations will not care. To them it won't even be real - it'll just be history, like Pearl Harbor is now.
You're right to say letting go is not the same as forgetting, but if you don't talk about it, the memories do fade away a lot quicker. I wish they wouldn't make movies about it though... but it was inevitable. Still, I see nothing wrong in having a thread to remember it yearly. Yes, people get sad when the subject comes up, but hopefully people also get more aware of their priorities.
Don't flame me for not being American and still caring about this, please
Edited by Sasha, 11 September 2007 - 11:25 AM.
#42
Posted 11 September 2007 - 11:30 AM
No, He's looked down on for being disrespectful.
that would just be like me saying "bark the london bombings, we have been dealing with that shit for 6 years and NOW you want to get scared."
screw that. there is no reason to put down someones country or it's people because your country has it worse off. and that, my friends would be like me saying "bark you Canada. bark you and you moose for not getting in a war for the last god knows how many years."
#43
Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:41 PM
(sorry to go off topic)
Living in the UK it didnt directly affect me, but still seeing it happen.. just shocks you at how stupid some people are..
I think the fact people were saying is though you can still remember it every year but dont need to make a board about it every year.
I can even tolerate having a board made about it every year, but the way people are making money off of this day just makes me sick to my stomach. I know someone posted about the movie. Rumor has it that each family recieved like...a $10 check. If Hollywood was going to give all of it's money to the families it wouldnt have made the movie in the first place. sad but true.
#44
Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:45 PM
A sad fact about the world.
#45
Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:46 PM
</expected flaming>
I honestly don't think I could agree more.
#46
Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:01 PM
Now, I'm not qualified to speak on the IRA conflict, as I wasn't alive and I don't know exactly what happened in great detail. But weren't the irish somewhat justified in trying to push the UK out of their nation? I mean, they had won independence when they did the Easter rebellion or whatever, but the british somehow kept the northern cities for some reason? Doesn't make any sense for the british to do that. It seems that they invited it on themselves almost. Whatever.
#47
Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:08 PM
#48
Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:20 PM
Was what happened horrible? Yes. Was it a needless loss of life? Yes. Should we ever forget? No.
My heart went out to those people on that day. The people who died had never done anything to the terrorist, and did not deserve to die. But they did die. It is a fact of life. I feel utterly horrible that so many families were affected, luckily mine was not one of them. I can not imagine the pain of losing a loved one, no one close to me has ever died. But nothing can be done to change it. We should never forget what happened that day. It should remain in history as one of the single most horrendous acts of mans primal and hateful nature. Of man's fury to lash out his other man, who has done nothing to him. It should always be told of how extremist can do such horrendous things with no provocation.
It should not have been used as a marketing tool. It was over exploited by the media. People have made profit of other people's loss. Bringing it up can do nothing good. Yes, horrible as it was, reminding people every year "3000 lost their lives on this day 6 years ago" will do nothing to help. It will do nothing to comfort. But it will spur people into buying memorabilia related to the matter. I have received no less than 5 text messages (SMS) today relating to the matter. Here is one: "2 day on 9/11 3000 ppl died. Drive with your headlights on in remembrance." How can these things be helpful? How will driving with my headlights on show my respect to those people?
I'm not good at closing up anything I type that is important. That is all.
#49
Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:24 PM
Was what happened horrible? Yes. Was it a needless loss of life? Yes. Should we ever forget? No.
My heart went out to those people on that day. The people who died had never done anything to the terrorist, and did not deserve to die. But they did die. It is a fact of life. I feel utterly horrible that so many families were affected, luckily mine was not one of them. I can not imagine the pain of losing a loved one, no one close to me has ever died. But nothing can be done to change it. We should never forget what happened that day. It should remain in history as one of the single most horrendous acts of mans primal and hateful nature. Of man's fury to lash out his other man, who has done nothing to him. It should always be told of how extremist can do such horrendous things with no provocation.
It should not have been used as a marketing tool. It was over exploited by the media. People have made profit of other people's loss. Bringing it up can do nothing good. Yes, horrible as it was, reminding people every year "3000 lost their lives on this day 6 years ago" will do nothing to help. It will do nothing to comfort. But it will spur people into buying memorabilia related to the matter. I have received no less than 5 text messages (SMS) today relating to the matter. Here is one: "2 day on 9/11 3000 ppl died. Drive with your headlights on in remembrance." How can these things be helpful? How will driving with my headlights on show my respect to those people?
I'm not good at closing up anything I type that is important. That is all.
How does putting flowers on a grave do anything? Nothing, but sometimes it helps comfort people. People have their own ways of showing respect.
#50
Posted 11 September 2007 - 01:37 PM
.... What the hell does that have to do with anything I said? The headlights I suppose? Yes. If the entire world all turned on their headlights it will make everything better, and give the families comfort. Duh.
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