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[Tim]

I do believe that you make your signatures, but I'd still like to hear an explanation about the picture you 'drew'.

[Kail]

I do believe that you make your signatures, but I'd still like to hear an explanation about the picture you 'drew'.

Well i did trace over the wallpaper that i told tetiel about in a black ink pen, then shaded in using a pencil so i guess i do deserve to get demoted.

And i know i said that i dont usually save the psd for sigs, i forgot that i sent it to the recycle bin.

I posted all the resources used, and i used the default font Arial.

Also the sonic render is the nov 07 render of the month from planetrenders.net

[Tetiel]

Well i did trace over the wallpaper that i told tetiel about in a black ink pen, then shaded in using a pencil so i guess i do deserve to get demoted.

And i know i said that i dont usually save the psd for sigs, i forgot that i sent it to the recycle bin.

I posted all the resources used, and i used the default font Arial.

Also the sonic render is the nov 07 render of the month from planetrenders.net

And the story keeps changing. See first you didn't use a reference. Then you just used a reference. And now you traced? You keep changing your story quite suspiciously. I wonder how much you'll give in next.

[Tim]

You'll need a bad-ass trampoline to get yourself out of this hole..

Edit; :7

Edited by Timothy!, 31 December 2007 - 11:46 PM.

[Kail]

And the story keeps changing. See first you didn't use a reference. Then you just used a reference. And now you traced? You keep changing your story quite suspiciously. I wonder how much you'll give in next.

I lied in the first place because its not often that anything i do actually looks half right so i just wanted some positive feedback for once.

Then i said i used the wallpaper as a reference as a sorry to poorly attempt to cover my sorry ass. Then finally after feeling rather guitlity after thinking back to what tetiel said on msn i decided to tell people the truth that it was a trace. Thats it no more lies.

And as for the so called sig rips that tetiel was accusing me of earlier on msn, i would like to assure everyone that I HAVE NEVER RIPPED A SIG.
However i have followed tutorials and used different settings and what not to make things different. As you'll see when i post the tutorial about my recent zelda sig..

http://magnawolf.dev...torial-59943999
^^ tutorial used as guidelines i guess you could say..

and my outcome..


They look hardly alike to me.

[Bryan]

What tutorial did you use for the Sonic sig Kami? I know I've seen it before, and I really don't want to take the time to look for it.

[Kail]

I didnt use a tutorial, i refered back to previous sigs however.

[Bryan]

I didnt use a tutorial, i refered back to previous sigs however.

Kami, I really suggest that if you used a tutorial, you post it right now, or I guarantee you I will find the one you used and make you look like a liar.

I am giving you a chance to reply to this post with the tutorial you used. I am fully willing to search deviantART, National Sig League, GameRenders, PlanetRenders and ClanTemplates to find this tutorial.

[Kail]

I swear i did not follow a tutorial for this sig however i did refer to my zelda sig, which i posted the tutorial for.

Im sorry if there is a tutorial that produces a sig similar to this one but i did not follow a tutorial for it, but like im trying to make clear is that i refered back to a different sig that was the outcome of a tutorial.

[Tetiel]

Kami here is where rippers go wrong. You want to be praised for it but you could have easily said I traced this artwork (assuming still that you actually did that as you said. I haven't closed that case yet) and said you did it for pencil shading practice. We would have said that it was good and then suggested that we would love to see what you can do without tracing. Also would have actually possibly given you help on it. At least I know I would have. Instead you threw that all away. It's better to be honest than lie about it because I am not kind to people who do and I will do my job to full extent.

[Kail]

Kami here is where you rippers go wrong. You want to be praised for it but you could have easily said I traced this artwork (assuming still that you actually did that as you said. I haven't closed that case yet) and said you did it for pencil shading practice. We would have said that it was good and then suggested that we would love to see what you can do without tracing. Also would have actually possibly given you help on it. At least I know I would have. Instead you threw that all away. It's better to be honest than lie about it because I am not kind to people who do and I will do my job to full extent.

That i can understand, and now see what i did wrong.

However speaking of you doing your job, i dont think its in your job to falsly accuse me of ripping sigs, now is it?

[Tetiel]

That i can understand, and now see what i did wrong.

However speaking of you doing your job, i dont think its in your job to falsly accuse me of ripping sigs, now is it?

In my experience I accused you according to statistics. Once rippers rip they have always ripped more than once. I had suspected for a long time that you at least use tutorials for your sigs (and I highly suspected one in your app which is majorly against the rules) and since I knew you didn't draw that image I suspected that you ripped them as well. I asked you how much else you lied about. Yet you kept insisting that you drew the image yourself. We still haven't seen if I was accusing you falsely either. In every single case if someone lies it's not the first time. And you most certainly ripped an image before. Remember the movie theater photomanip you posted and thus claimed was yours. You infact REMOVED THE WATERMARK. It was well in my rights to demote you and suspend you right there. And you think I'm not right in accusing you when you have shown all the behaviors or rippers I have seen before?

Oh yes, and I failed to mention your history of ripping a tutorial.

[Kail]

Tetiel, i admitted to the whole theater thing and changed my post accordingly almost straigh after i recieved a formal warning. And this thread is about the sig rips you accused me of not the drawing, which was a trace or the theater which i got rid of on the first day.

And for the tutorial, that was when i was younger and more of an immature attention whore, i got my fair punishment for that and i apoligised to both the people who made the original tut and to hydrogen.

Edited by Kami, 01 January 2008 - 12:16 AM.

[Tetiel]

Tetiel, i admitted to the whole theater thing and changed my post accordingly almost straigh after i recieved a formal warning. And this thread is about the sig rips you accused me of not the drawing, which was a trace or the theater which i got rid of on the first day.

I'm explaining to you why I'm accusing you. Because of your constant behavior as a ripper and several other red flag behaviors. And you only got rid of it because someone else pointed it out. All of these behaviors given other rippers' history points to ripper. Notice that again I have not suspended you yet however I have put you on full investigation.

[Hawk]

I'm explaining to you why I'm accusing you. Because of your constant behavior as a ripper and several other red flag behaviors. And you only got rid of it because someone else pointed it out. All of these behaviors given other rippers' history points to ripper. Notice that again I have not suspended you yet however I have put you on full investigation.

Tetiel, next time, don't tell them they are under investigation. Just investigate. This whole argument is annoying. You have no conclusive proof other than a hunch, and Kami has done jack shit to defend himself. But, of course, you have the burden of proof. Go get it before you start writing people off as rippers because 1) If you are wrong, it still negatively impacts their reputation and 2) It makes you look like an a-hole calling people a ripper without conclusive evidence.

[Kail]

Yes, my rep has been severaly trashed and i didnt rip the flipping drawing it is a tracing and that is the truth.

[Tetiel]

Tetiel, next time, don't tell them they are under investigation. Just investigate. This whole argument is annoying. You have no conclusive proof other than a hunch, and Kami has done jack shit to defend himself. But, of course, you have the burden of proof. Go get it before you start writing people off as rippers because 1) If you are wrong, it still negatively impacts their reputation and 2) It makes you look like an a-hole calling people a ripper without conclusive evidence.

You are right. Thread closed before further evidence.