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[Goldfox420]

i just got this program to finally work after downloading the files like 3 times :[ I hate Vista and so this will work for all but the 3 variables right?

[ShadowLink64]

i just got this program to finally work after downloading the files like 3 times :[ I hate Vista and so this will work for all but the 3 variables right?

Yes. Right now I think we're going to try and formulate a plan to get these 3 variable ones decoded again, and when we get something out, we will let everyone know.

[Waser Lave]

I'm thinking they've changed the algorithm a bit and since I've already completed my part of the plot I'm unable to test on my own account.

We need a programmer who hasn't completed theirs yet.

I'll try and get this fixed as soon as possible, Neocodex apologies for any inconvenience.

Edited by Laser Wave, 07 February 2008 - 10:55 AM.

[Goldfox420]

how many different messages do u have to decode?

[Sweeney]

I'm thinking they've changed the algorithm a bit and since I've already completed my part of the plot I'm unable to test on my own account.

We need a programmer who hasn't completed theirs yet.

I'll try and get this fixed as soon as possible, Neocodex apologies for any inconvenience.

You could just make a new account There doesn't seem to be any age limit on the plot

[Kimoflea]

I've got a few accounts you could borrow, Laser

[Waser Lave]

I've got a few accounts you could borrow, Laser

I just made a new account, thanks anyway.

I guess I needed a gallery account anyway.

[Goldfox420]

sorry for posting this twice but how many messages do u have to decode?

[Waser Lave]

sorry for posting this twice but how many messages do u have to decode?

Only until you get the one about transporting stuff.

[Ayanami]

Only until you get the one about transporting stuff.

If you need more people to test, I'd be more than willing to help.

I still need to finish my stuff. I have two puzzles left, and doing it manually is driving me CRAZY! >_<

[Sweeney]

sorry for posting this twice but how many messages do u have to decode?

That's explained in the actual plot topic.
Which you probably would have found, if you ever left the Downloads section.

[ShadowLink64]

That's explained in the actual plot topic.
Which you probably would have found, if you ever left the Downloads section.

Hehe.

The actual plot topic, if anyone wants to reference it, is here: http://www.neocodex....showtopic=77013

[Sweeney]

Hehe.

The actual plot topic, if anyone wants to reference it, is here: http://www.neocodex....showtopic=77013

And it's by me!
Bwahahaha!

*cough*

[ShadowLink64]

And it's by me!
Bwahahaha!

*cough*

Yes, thanks for that.

[dotnetex]

ive counted...there are 8eight symbols now....can that be why its not working?

Edited by dotnetex, 07 February 2008 - 11:54 AM.

[ShadowLink64]

ive counted...there are 8eight symbols now....can that be why its not working?

Could be. I'd send a PM to Laser Wave in case he doesn't know about it yet.

EDIT: NVM, he's right in the thread.

[tastyphoxette]

ive counted...there are 8eight symbols now....can that be why its not working?

8 Symbols?

Do you mean like the Char. count? You just count one for each letter that's being used...
So,
A, B, C, D... that'd be four.
So would:

A, B, C, C, C, D.

Is that what you mean?

[Tailwind]

I must be stupid or something.

Reading around I've seen people mention that you don't need to access the site at all using the program, making it undecectable.. yet you need to visit that page with your message ID.

..correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't TNT be able to figure out who's using the program, and who isn't by checking to see who visted the pages with the ID at the end?

Unless of course I'm just being uber paranoid and reading into the instructions too much.

[ShadowLink64]

I must be stupid or something.

Reading around I've seen people mention that you don't need to access the site at all using the program, making it undecectable.. yet you need to visit that page with your message ID.

..correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't TNT be able to figure out who's using the program, and who isn't by checking to see who visted the pages with the ID at the end?

Unless of course I'm just being uber paranoid and reading into the instructions too much.

Hmm, the plot is in Acrobat Flash format right? I believe that the flash program has to go to that URL anyways, so whether you're running the flash program on the Neopets site, or visiting the link, they can't tell the difference (unless you use a referer, but copy/pasting it and putting it right into the address bar won't do anything).

[Tailwind]

Hmm, the plot is in Acrobat Flash format right? I believe that the flash program has to go to that URL anyways, so whether you're running the flash program on the Neopets site, or visiting the link, they can't tell the difference (unless you use a referer, but copy/pasting it and putting it right into the address bar won't do anything).

Well that would explain the loading time when switching from messages.

Sorry, I obviously wasn't thinking. The thought of that hadn't crossed my mind.

[tastyphoxette]

Well that would explain the loading time when switching from messages.

Sorry, I obviously wasn't thinking. The thought of that hadn't crossed my mind.

;; That's alright. When in doubt, listen to ShadowLink. That man knows his stuff.


It's like the Wheel of Monotony "Cheat" where you can see your prize outcomes or collect them even after you click out of the page...

The flash program has to go to that page eventually.

[Waser Lave]

I'll explain how to do the maths in case somebody else wants to make a program to do it while they're waiting.

First, you translate your keys into numbers:

So ABCD would become 1234 and GDBCAFD would be 7423164 etc

Then you add each corresponding character to each other in the keys.

So if we have the keys:

DBCD
BBDC
BCDA
CBDB

They would be:

4234
2243
2341
3242

And added vertically:

4+2+2+3 = 11
2+2+3+2 = 9
3+4+4+4 = 15
4+3+1+2 = 10

Now we see how many different characters we have in our modifier keys:

In the case above it's 4 (A,B,C,D).

So we work out what the remainder is when the numbers above are divided by 4.

4*2 = 8. 11-8 = 3
4*2 = 8. 9-8 = 1
4*3 = 12. 15-12 = 3
4*2 = 8. 10-8 = 2

So 3,1,3,2 would become

CACB which would be the final result of the encoding.

[ShadowLink64]

Well that would explain the loading time when switching from messages.

Sorry, I obviously wasn't thinking. The thought of that hadn't crossed my mind.

No worries.

[Sweeney]

I reckon they've probably just changed the number values for the triple modifier ones, is all.

[Waser Lave]

I reckon they've probably just changed the number values for the triple modifier ones, is all.

Could be, I'll let you investigate, I've got some work to do.