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[Josh21227]

http://www.neocodex....showtopic=84685

O.o Why is authorization required? The reason I've only uploaded 1 program (AutoAdopter which hasn't been approved yet) is because last time I submitted my programs I was told I needed to add authorization to them. I know a few programmers who don't want their programs to have an auth on them. So why require it? It should be up to the programmer to decide if they want to add auth to their programs.

Btw: When the rule is gone (If ever), I will upload more of my programs.


Edit: Oh and approve my auto adopter. Its starting to annoy me..

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 02:49 AM.

[Hazard]

For security i suppose

[Oaken]

Why do so many people have a problem with programs requiring authorization?

When did you submit your AA?

[Josh21227]

Kitsune - O.o Why not? You would have more programs.

For security i suppose

I see no security in it....

Why do so many people have a problem with programs requiring authorization?

When did you submit your AA?

I release my programs on all sites. Why should I waste my time changing the auth for every site?

I submitted it 7 days ago.

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 09:15 AM.

[Oaken]

I personally would not use a program that didn't have some kind of authorization. The program could have anything in it....whether it be a virus or something that would steal my account info.

[Just Another User]

A program without an auth is a program not worth using.

[Noitidart]

I think you were contacted about this program no?
It says under review

[Josh21227]

I personally would not use a program that didn't have some kind of authorization. The program could have anything in it....whether it be a virus or something that would steal my account info.

O.o No it couldn't. They scan them before they get approved. The codexchecks/authorization doesn't scan for viruses

I think you were contacted about this program no?
It says under review

Nope.

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 11:06 PM.

[rockage]

I was told by hydrogen that it isn't necessary, but when I tried to upload one without, it was rejected.

How would a file without an authorization be any different (maliciously speaking) then one with an authorization ? The auth has nothing to do with security, only with authorizing a user to this site.

[Noitidart]

Maybe the person who reviewed it saw there were no checks on it and forgot to pm you?

Are there checks on it?

[Josh21227]

Theres checks on it.

[Josh] - [Join Icyneo.net] says:
Btw: Make someone approve my program on codex.
Brandon says:
Haha
Brandon says:
"Icy Auto Adopter"?
[Josh] - [Join Icyneo.net] says:
Yea.
Brandon says:
There, approved
[Josh] - [Join Icyneo.net] says:
Thanks.

So yea, its approved now. Now we need to make a rule about the codexchecks not being needed.

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 05:16 PM.

[Just Another User]

Theres checks on it.



So yea, its approved now. Now we need to make a rule about the codexchecks not being needed.

no, codex checks is needed, if this prog doesn't have it will an admin plz disable it... thx.

[Josh21227]

no, codex checks is needed, if this prog doesn't have it will an admin plz disable it... thx.

o.o Theres checks on it. Read the first line in my post.

Oh and you make no sense. Why should codexchecks be required anyways?

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 11:07 PM.

[Just Another User]

o.o Theres checks on it. Read the first line in my post.

Oh and you make no sense. Why should there be codex checks anyways?

So people not members of codex and not in the correct ranking can't use it, and so if people get banned they can no longer use the programs.

[rockage]

The software is property of the programmer. He/She (lol) should decide on adding an auth or not.

/offtopic/ waser_lave luls (not lolz), noodz!

[Josh21227]

The software is property of the programmer. He/She (lol) should decide on adding an auth or not.

/offtopic/ waser_lave luls (not lolz), noodz!

^^^That

[Vegas]

Is this Icy same/related to the Icey Defeat?

[redlion]

The software is property of the programmer. He/She (lol) should decide on adding an auth or not.

/offtopic/ waser_lave luls (not lolz), noodz!

That is, of course, your prerogative. I like the security that authorizations offer. If I were a programmer and I was releasing high quality programs for use by a select few(i.e. Private, Retired, Advanced even), I would be concerned with leaking or with people using my program without permission. The easiest way to prevent leaking is to require a codex account to use the programs. If you want to distribute programs without authorizations, you're perfectly within your rights to do that. Its just a part of the approval process here.

Is this Icy same/related to the Icey Defeat?

Nope. Icey Defeat is at college and not really releasing programs right now. I think he is on official leave.

[Josh21227]

Is this Icy same/related to the Icey Defeat?

Icyneo
Thats why.

That is, of course, your prerogative. I like the security that authorizations offer. If I were a programmer and I was releasing high quality programs for use by a select few(i.e. Private, Retired, Advanced even), I would be concerned with leaking or with people using my program without permission. The easiest way to prevent leaking is to require a codex account to use the programs. If you want to distribute programs without authorizations, you're perfectly within your rights to do that. Its just a part of the approval process here.

Requiring codexchecks basically says programmers shouldn't have a choice. I released my Account generator source, so its clear the program doesn't mean too much to me, so why would I put an auth on the actual program?

It shouldn't be up to the admins to decide if the program should have an auth, it should be up to the programmer. I release my programs on multiple sites without auth, so theres no point of it being in my program here.

People agree with me, and the only argument is that a programmer wouldn't want it leaked, and in that case they add the authorization. In cases where they don't care, why force it?

Edited by Josh0403, 12 August 2008 - 11:04 PM.

[Oaken]

Just realised that a program I use that Rockage made doesn't use the Codex checks.....so it obviously isn't forced onto the programmers.

Seems to me that this has just been blown waaay out of proportion.

[Waser Lave]

Requiring codexchecks basically says programmers shouldn't have a choice. I released my Account generator source, so its clear the program doesn't mean too much to me, so why would I put an auth on the actual program?

It shouldn't be up to the admins to decide if the program should have an auth, it should be up to the programmer. I release my programs on multiple sites without auth, so theres no point of it being in my program here.

People agree with me, and the only argument is that a programmer wouldn't want it leaked, and in that case they add the authorization. In cases where they don't care, why force it?

If you don't agree with the policy, don't upload programs here. It's that simple.

[Oaken]

Actually.....the program Rockage made that I am using is not on Codex . He must have sent me the .exe.....

[Josh21227]

If you don't agree with the policy, don't upload programs here. It's that simple.

Why should the policy be like that?

[Waser Lave]

Why should the policy be like that?

Because the admins decide the rules and this isn't a democracy. Respect their rules or piss off.

[Just Another User]

Think of a scenario like this...

person a joins codex and downloads program a,b,c
programs b,c are only available on codex
program a is available on many sites
person a then posts some racist crap and gets banned from codex
person a can no longer use a,b,c
person a CAN use program a if he looks for it elsewhere
chances are person a won't look for any of them elsewhere
person b comes along and sees what happened
person b now does not want to get banned as programs wont work
person b does not post racist shit

Edited by Just Another User, 13 August 2008 - 09:33 AM.