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[Cory]

uh... I was a somewhat active member. This would be the type of member whose opinion should matter just as much as any other if not more. it's people that are coming in and seeing unjust and inappropriate behavior (from members or mods) that turn around and leave this forum or worse.(That statement was not directed solely at Kitsune BTW)

Good post, would read again!

[Tetiel]

If I thought she was as bad as some of the trolls on this forum, I would have celebrated her leave. I think she has the cognitive capacity to make great posts, and I agree that she's done some great for this forum.

As far as my ability to have an accurate baring on her personality- I didn't necessarily post a ton outside of LPC but I sure as hell used to lurk 'n read. I made the effort to come out of the LPC area, but maybe my tie to it might be because she didn't make a lot of appearances there herself.

Again, I don't think she's incapable of being kind, as I've seen it before.

uh... I was a somewhat active member. This would be the type of member whose opinion should matter just as much as any other if not more. it's people that are coming in and seeing unjust and inappropriate behavior (from members or mods) that turn around and leave this forum or worse.(That statement was not directed solely at Kitsune BTW)

So to say that I didn't know her is accurate as far as a personal relationship but even if I only had a substantial first impression of her it shouldn't be looked at as negligible, especially if several others agree.

and again, for the record... I don't hate Kitsune. I'd like her to come back. I'd like to come back to this forum more often myself, in fact.

Now this is a much better post than your previous one. Thank you for making yourself more clear. Your previous one made it seem that you just felt there was an opportunity to insult Kitsune, so you took it. Obviously that was an inaccurate interpretation. The comment about her being a biznatch wasn't really necessary, though. I completely understand your point about seeing unjust and inappropriate behavior and leaving. That's something that I've seen happen a lot and I do want it to stop which is why I made the topic in the first place.

[414de7fe6]

Well fuck, if she couldn't take torrents of constant abuse then why the hell was she smod in the first place? It sort of comes with the job

[Tetiel]

Well fuck, if she couldn't take torrents of constant abuse then why the hell was she smod in the first place? It sort of comes with the job

She took it for over a year. Hell, I can't even remember when we were promoted anymore. It gets to you eventually.

[414de7fe6]

In foresight, I was wrong.

It was wrong of me to call out Kitsune and make rash assumptions about her personality based on what I had seen in my grand total of three days back on the site. It was wrong of me to assume that the primary reason for her bitterness was just pure vindictiveness - I understand now that it is far more than that. What I see now is quite simple - she was a vanguard of change. She did shit that nobody else would because they knew us petulant little prats would be flinging shit at them the entire way without fail, just because we have the capacity to do so. So she became the communal scratching post that everybody vented their slightest frustration at because their lives were miserable or some other far fetched reason, whatever.

I was wrong to say she'd changed. I was wrong to think this site had changed. Everybody is still the same - myself included, with just a few more notches on the belt. Nothing more. Ultimately it's my fault for pushing her over the edge with half-wrought assumptions, but it lies on your head - you know who you are, the people who have actually been here the past year and subjected her to all this shit when in reality, she was trying to help. People did it to me when I was an smod, and it did eventually get to me - though I got lucky and found an excuse to go inactive after 8 months and came back to find myself demoted. Kit hasn't had that chance - she's had to cope with your incessant bitching and whining for the past year and quite frankly, I doubt anybody here currently would last that long under that sort of abuse. I sure as fuck wouldn't. I would have banned half of you for some of the crap that you've pulled.

I felt like I had unfinished business here.

I was fucking wrong.

[Quadra]

It is unfortunate to see people who have been dedicatedly volunteering their time leaving due to an abusive atmosphere.

If those that remain active on the site understand that participation is dwindling, why then be offensive when this only exacerbates the problem?

Is it perhaps their desire to see the forum fade away or are they just not considering the ramifications of their words? If it a case of the former, then I am truly saddened...

Edited by Quadra, 24 April 2009 - 06:23 PM.

[Sweeney]

In foresight, I was wrong.

*hindsight

[414de7fe6]

*hindsight

SHUT UP I AM TRYING TO BE EMOTIONAL/INSPIRATIONAL HERE >:[

[Warlord]

Kitsune is a hell of a lot nicer than most of the people I've met on this board and one of the few I would gladly consider a friend.

[Raui]

Euphy, you've always been the emotional type xD I have never ever ever had a bad word to say about Kitsune. If she comes back I'll be happy and if she doesn't I'll be happy for her plus I get to talk to her on msn on some occasions so thats always a plus

[Alex]

This thread made me have an epiphany. I've realized there's really very few people on this site that I've actually talked to, and even fewer that I genuinely like. I don't know why that is. Maybe because we're all assholes on this site. We always have been. We've gossiped and criticized others on hidden subforums and off the site, held grudges while pretending to be friendly and as of late even let our feeling come out in the open. I cannot think of one person that has not been an asshole at one point or another.

Also you cannot make people respect each other. Respect is not to be turned into a custom, it is not a handshake, so I don't think the solution lies there. Maybe the solution to co-existence lies with reflecting on ourselves rather than others.

Edited by Alex, 26 April 2009 - 08:56 PM.

[Raui]

Also you cannot make people respect each other. Respect is not to be turned into a custom, it is not a handshake, so I don't think the solution lies there. Maybe the solution to co-existence lies with reflecting on ourselves rather than others.

This.

[Grizzly]

Wow we really are a bunch of douchebags.

[nox]

i try to stay out of all this drama

[Hawk]

Damn, what the hell went down? All the shit I did and she blew it off... what happened?

[Cory]

Damn, what the hell went down? All the shit I did and she blew it off... what happened?

Good time to come back lul. Read private.

[Hawk]

Good time to come back lul. Read private.

I read through that thread. Doesn't really surprise me.