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[kuwaz]

Who are you to judge how successful I am in society? You know absolutely nothing about me. I am on a neopets cheating site, however that is not what I use the site for. Don't assume I enjoy neopets because I am here, that is a foolish thing to do.



I wasn't saying that only the demographic the product is designed for is allowed to use the product; I said that pokemon were designed for children, and by collecting them, it is a childish thing to do. Anyone can collect pokemon, but it happens to be a childish thing to do; that doesn't mean it isn't allowed.

I am addressing the point that you post. I have been following up everything you say, which happens to be out argument about the point.

This is my definition of failure, for a person that is: a person or thing that proves unsuccessful: He is a failure in his career. The cake is a failure.
Is it really that odd?

Okay, my mom thinks all video games are childish, so I'm sure if you play video games,
in her eyes, you would be very childish... Unless you conform 100% to society and
only work, exercise, eat, sleep, vacation, then you would be doing something "childish",
or refusing to grow up, so she would claim. Now I got nothing against my mom, but
all I'm saying is... everyone is subject to their own opinions and views of what is
right and wrong.

I don't think there's any proven relation between career success and toy collecting,
because uh... I know girls who collect little plushies and what not... they're like 20+
and not really failing at life either

I mean I collect magic and play neopets... and I don't have a problem with finding work.
There's really nothing wrong with diversifying your range of entertainment. Since I
also participate in more "adult" activities as well... I think it's just a preference.

Edited by channel_49, 11 July 2009 - 10:11 AM.

[Magma]

But it's ok for you to call me a failure when you have the exact same level of knowledge of me?
Extraordinary hypocrisy.


And I believe my original response to that was "So what?".


No, you're not. Addressing the point involves bringing up a supported counter argument, not just making bare-faced assertions in the hope that no one will call you on them.


Your definition doesn't apply to me, so attempting to use it to describe me is a bit odd, yes.

I know you collect pokemon. That is enough for me to say you are childish and to grow up. You know absolutely nothing about me.

It's not odd at all, when what I know about you at the moment leads me to believe you are a failure.

A counter argument? My point is that pokemon were and are for children. You collecting pokemon figures is a childish thing. Because of that you need to grow up. That's my argument. Maybe not in this community, but in many community I could find more than enough people to agree with me.
Everyone needs to grow up eventually before reality hits you in the face. I'm providing you with some assistance with what I said.

Okay, my mom thinks all video games are childish, so I'm sure if you play video games,
in her eyes, you would be very childish... Unless you conform 100% to society and
only work, exercise, eat, sleep, vacation, then you would be doing something "childish",
or refusing to grow up, so she would claim. Now I got nothing against my mom, but
all I'm saying is... everyone is subject to their own opinions and views of what is
right and wrong.

I don't think there's any proven relation between career success and toy collecting,
because uh... I know girls who collect little plushies and what not... they're like 20+
and not really failing at life either

I mean I collect magic and play neopets... and I don't have a problem with finding work.
There's really nothing wrong with diversifying your range of entertainment. Since I
also participate in more "adult" activities as well... I think it's just a preference.

Exactly, everyone has their opinions, so why is Sunscorch consistantly trying to overthrow my opinion? Foolish of him.

I never pointed out what he will fail it, but that he will generally fail. Don't assume I meant failure in a career.

Hey Sunscorch, if you have such a sound grip on reality then why don't you know that you CANNOT persuade someone to think the way you think. Its a foolish thing to do, and you will fail in life if you continue to try to be intellectually superior to everyone to the point where people view you as an annoyance. No matter how much you keep on arguing with me, no matter how much you try to overthrow my logic and ideals, with your assumed superior logic and ideals, you will always fail. So you could just stop arguing any moment, because you will get nowhere. I promise you that.

Edited by Magma, 11 July 2009 - 12:19 PM.

[kuwaz]

I know you collect pokemon. That is enough for me to say you are childish and to grow up. You know absolutely nothing about me.

It's not odd at all, when what I know about you at the moment leads me to believe you are a failure.

A counter argument? My point is that pokemon were and are for children. You collecting pokemon figures is a childish thing. Because of that you need to grow up. That's my argument. Maybe not in this community, but in many community I could find more than enough people to agree with me.
Everyone needs to grow up eventually before reality hits you in the face. I'm providing you with some assistance with what I said.



Exactly, everyone has their opinions, so why is Sunscorch consistantly trying to overthrow my opinion? Foolish of him.

I never pointed out what he will fail it, but that he will generally fail. Don't assume I meant failure in a career.

Hey Sunscorch, if you have such a sound grip on reality then why don't you know that you CANNOT persuade someone to think the way you think. Its a foolish thing to do, and you will fail in life if you continue to try to be intellectually superior to everyone to the point where people view you as an annoyance. No matter how much you keep on arguing with me, no matter how much you try to overthrow my logic and ideals, with your assumed superior logic and ideals, you will always fail. So you could just stop arguing any moment, because you will get nowhere. I promise you that.

I think everyone is just commenting on the "grow up" comment you made,
its one thing to be entitled to an opinion, while it is another case if you offend
somebody with that comment. Perhaps if you rephrased or said it in a nicer
way I don't think he would try to argue it.

Edited by channel_49, 11 July 2009 - 12:24 PM.

[Magma]

I think everyone is just commenting on the "grow up" comment you made,
its one thing to be entitled to an opinion, while it is another case if you
offend somebody with that comment.

Frankly, I don't care who is offended by the comment. I'm entitled to my opinion and nobody should try to change it or argue it, because I'm not changing it.

[ShadowLink64]

Magma, good, you've voiced your opinion (You're a big boy now! -- sorry, my attempt at humor since this issue deals with maturity)

Evidently, people have considered it and do not agree with your opinion. Usually a person lets things be after this stage, unless you are aiming to cause trouble.

Frankly, I do not consider the comment "Grow up." to be an opinion, but more of a directive, like you are ordering someone to do something. I don't see how else this comment can be construed. If you wanted to express an opinion, it would have initially went along the lines of: "I think that this is childish." That is why people are making these comments.

So everyone, drop this please. This is a Pokemon thread.

Spoiler

I approve of the "Pokemans" even though I quit that long ago.

[Sweeney]

I know you collect pokemon. That is enough for me to say you are childish and to grow up. You know absolutely nothing about me.

It's not odd at all, when what I know about you at the moment leads me to believe you are a failure.

A counter argument? My point is that pokemon were and are for children. You collecting pokemon figures is a childish thing. Because of that you need to grow up. That's my argument. Maybe not in this community, but in many community I could find more than enough people to agree with me.
Everyone needs to grow up eventually before reality hits you in the face. I'm providing you with some assistance with what I said.

I know that you think pokemon is childish, and that you have an overinflated sense of the importance of your own opinion.

So, you think that me being 21, and having enough money and enough brains to pay my own way through university with a scholarship, pay rent, pay bills, pay for food and to still have enough money left over to buy frivolous toys, makes me a failure?
I don't think you really put a lot of thought into that comment at all.

You're not making a counter argument at all. You're just restating the same thing over and over.
I have asked you why I need to grow up, and your only response has been to say "You need to grow up" paraphrased in various ways.

You're either a troll, a moron or seriously ill.

[ShadowLink64]

I know that you think pokemon is childish, and that you have an overinflated sense of the importance of your own opinion.

So, you think that me being 21, and having enough money and enough brains to pay my own way through university with a scholarship, pay rent, pay bills, pay for food and to still have enough money left over to buy frivolous toys, makes me a failure?
I don't think you really put a lot of thought into that comment at all.

You're not making a counter argument at all. You're just restating the same thing over and over.
I have asked you why I need to grow up, and your only response has been to say "You need to grow up" paraphrased in various ways.

You're either a troll, a moron or seriously ill.

Please. We need to drop this since that's what the last two pages of this topic have been about.

But Sunscorch, you're doing just fine IMO. You can collect your pokemon.

[Sweeney]

Please. We need to drop this since that's what the last two pages of this topic have been about.

But Sunscorch, you're doing just fine IMO. You can collect your pokemon.

You know me better than to let some pretender have the last word

[ShadowLink64]

You know me better than to let some pretender have the last word

True-say. You also know that it is my job to say what I said, haha. (The first part, not the last part obviously)

[kuwaz]

You know me better than to let some pretender have the last word

Gotta beat them all!